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Noah tries to show Hawks he's worthy of No. 3 pick

By CHARLES ODUM, AP Sports Writer
June 22, 2007

ATLANTA (AP) -- Joakim Noah mocks those who publish NBA mock drafts.

"I heard one of them is like a kid who is 16 years old in his basement," Noah said.

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But Noah knows enough to realize the NBA draft guessing game this year begins with the Hawks' No. 3 pick, and that's why he was in Atlanta on Friday for a workout.

Greg Oden and Kevin Durant are almost certain to be taken by Portland and Seattle with the first two picks on Thursday.

Some draft projections have the Hawks taking a Florida teammate of Noah's -- center Al Horford -- or Ohio State point guard Mike Conley Jr.

Noah, a power forward, tried to convince Hawks general manager Billy Knight and coach Mike Woodson that he should be the third pick.

"That's why I'm here," he said. "If I didn't think I had a chance I wouldn't be here."

The Hawks also pick 11th, but Noah hopes he's not around by then.

The draft decision by Knight, who wasn't talking on Friday, will affect the rest of the first round. Noah is as curious as anyone.

"You know who's going one and two," Noah said. "Then you have no idea."

It's a big decision for the Hawks.

"It's huge for our franchise," Woodson said. "We're in a position where we can either trade them if the trade makes sense or we pick two young guys who come in and fit in with the young guys we already have. I think the big thing about this draft is you can pick a guy who can come in and play right away. Last year we got caught when the injuries occurred, we just didn't have backup players that were ready to play."

Noah also has worked out for Boston (picking at No. 5), Minnesota (No. 7), Charlotte (No. 8) and Chicago (No. 9). He will work out for Memphis, which has the fourth pick, on Saturday.

Noah said trade speculation involving NBA stars Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett and the phone call he got Friday from the Phoenix Suns adds more mystery to the draft.

"The craziest thing about it is you have no idea also what's going to happen if these big guys go in trades, these superstars," he said. "As a player you just have to be ready for anything.

"Just today, I had an opportunity to go work out in Phoenix. Phoenix isn't in the lottery. Why would they call my agent and say 'We want him to work out?"'

Noah said he accepted the invitation of the Suns, who aren't scheduled to pick until No. 24


The 6-foot-11 Noah averaged 12.0 points and 8.4 rebounds as a junior to help Florida win its second straight national championship.

Florida's wealth of talent made it difficult for any player to consistently play a lead role, and Noah's scoring average fell from his 14.2 points per game as a sophomore.

Woodson said he doesn't consider Noah to be a "great scorer." Woodson also said the 232-pound Noah will need to add weight and strength to be a productive inside player in the NBA.

Even so, Woodson said he thinks Noah could make an immediate impact.

"You kind of cue in on what he actually does for his team," Woodson said. "The fact he defends and he rebounds and he runs the floor, for a 7-footer that's all you can really ask for. He's not a great scorer. He can finish at the rim. The fact he gets up and down the floor, he'll get buckets that way.

"I look at guys who can rebound and play defense and run the floor, and if you can do those three things you have a future in our league."

Knight has been criticized for failing to draft a point guard while instead picking versatile forwards in recent years. Knight picked forwards Shelden Williams and Marvin Williams in the first round the last two years, and in 2004 he took wing player Josh Childress and forward Josh Smith with two first-round picks.

The Hawks, who hit bottom with 13 wins in 2004-05, improved to 30 wins last season. Still, they finished in last place and missed the playoffs for the eighth straight year.

Last year the Hawks signed point guard Speedy Claxton to a four-year, $25.5 million deal, but Claxton missed 36 games with a sore left knee and started only 31 games. The team's lone All-Star, Joe Johnson, missed the final 21 games with a bruised right calf.

Woodson said he believes Claxton and another veteran point guard, Tyronn Lue, will be stronger in the 2007-08 season, possibly influencing their decision on Conley.
 

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Amare + 24 + fillers for Garnett + #7 is about to go down, I have a feeling.

Not that I agree with the trade but i do love drama!
 

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I actually think Noah will be a really good player if he is on a good team. I like he and Amare up front together, but only if the rest of the team is shooters.
 

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I cannot, for the life of me, find a trade that swaps KG for Amare in which we get what I perceive to be fair value due to the $10M salary difference. We'd have to start with at least Amare/Thomas or Amare/Diaw and I woudl DEMAND that they take Banks back, but other than Smith, the PF, I don't see anyone on their roster that helps get to value even if they threw in #7 and we kept our picks....
 

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I've always though the Suns liked Noah since last year. I think the Suns see something in him that others do not. I would never bet against the Suns scouting. I think the Suns like that he is an intelligent big man that can run the court and he will just keep improving. I believe the Suns think they can coach him up.
 

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I've always though the Suns liked Noah since last year. I think the Suns see something in him that others do not. I would never bet against the Suns scouting. I think the Suns like he is an intelligent big man that can run the court and he will just keep improving. I believe the Suns think they can coach him up.

Noah is a 6'11 Marion, IMO. He'd work well on this team, so I am not necessarily objecting to him being on the team. My favorite, outside the big two, is Horford. If there was a way to get Horford and KG out of Amare, I'd pull the trigger, but Noah and KG needs a few more parts....

Wait! maybe we give back ATL their #1 nest year and MIN#7 for #3 and we get Horford! That's a trade I'd do!
 

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I don't think this has to do with Minnesota unless everyone is sure that Noah is dropping to 7. This could be a deal to get Marion to the Grizzlies if Iavaroni really wants him there.

Marion, Banks, 24 and 29 for Miller, Cardinal, Swift and the 4 pick? Of course, I'd rather have Horford here, but the Suns do seem to love Noah a lot.
 

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Well its not like we have to get #7...

Noah could be on the board at #11, say we trade #29 and Atlantas pick to Atlanta for #11...

I mean Noah isn't a lock to go in top 8.
 

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I cannot, for the life of me, find a trade that swaps KG for Amare in which we get what I perceive to be fair value due to the $10M salary difference.

Me neither. I just don't see anything happening there. If the Suns want to trade Stoudemire, they might as well go after Bryant and hope that Diaw comes back to life.
 

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why does everyone automatically assume it's Amare who's gone here? If anything, Noah coming in makes me believe that Marion's on his way out in exchange for the pick and Grant Hill could be on his way in.

I'd be pretty stoked with:

Nash
Bell
Hill
Noah
Amare

Barbs
Diaw
Jones
KT

That's size, rebounding, shot blocking and playmaking. Noah's 10 points a game and probably 9-10ish boards and Amare's ability to get more shots and pump his average back up 26 a game covers Marion's scoring and rebounding and we're bigger with more bodies at the basket.

that team's team, long and versatile. I'd take that in a heartbeat, especially if Marion's the problem I think he is and is looking at opt-ing out.

I'd really like to see the Spurs try to hide Parker on anyone on that team.
 

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I don't think this has to do with Minnesota unless everyone is sure that Noah is dropping to 7. This could be a deal to get Marion to the Grizzlies if Iavaroni really wants him there.

Marion, Banks, 24 and 29 for Miller, Cardinal, Swift and the 4 pick? Of course, I'd rather have Horford here, but the Suns do seem to love Noah a lot.

i agree wholeheartedly. Although I don't see us getting Miller and #4 for Marion and crap.
 

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Me neither. I just don't see anything happening there. If the Suns want to trade Stoudemire, they might as well go after Bryant and hope that Diaw comes back to life.

Yeah. I mean, if KG was being paid 125% of Amare's salary (around $17.5M), I'd take KG/Smith/#7, but the fact of the matter is that the salary difference requires that we add at least either Diaw or Thomas - both of whom have positive value....
 

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I don't think this has to do with Minnesota unless everyone is sure that Noah is dropping to 7. This could be a deal to get Marion to the Grizzlies if Iavaroni really wants him there.

Marion, Banks, 24 and 29 for Miller, Cardinal, Swift and the 4 pick? Of course, I'd rather have Horford here, but the Suns do seem to love Noah a lot.

Starters:
Nash
Bell
Miller
Noah
Stoudemire

Bench:
Barbosa
Diaw
Jones
Thomas
Hill?
 

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How about Marion going to the Celtics for West, the #5 pick and Ratliff. We take Noah with that pick. This is a trade that already has been proposed and could seriously happen. Marion may not want to go to the Celtics but money could change everything. (make him happy)
 

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why does everyone automatically assume it's Amare who's gone here? If anything, Noah coming in makes me believe that Marion's on his way out in exchange for the pick and Grant Hill could be on his way in.

I'd be pretty stoked with:

Nash
Bell
Hill
Noah
Amare

Barbs
Diaw
Jones
KT

That's size, rebounding, shot blocking and playmaking. Noah's 10 points a game and probably 9-10ish boards and Amare's ability to get more shots and pump his average back up 26 a game covers Marion's scoring and rebounding and we're bigger with more bodies at the basket.

that team's team, long and versatile. I'd take that in a heartbeat, especially if Marion's the problem I think he is and is looking at opt-ing out.

I'd really like to see the Spurs try to hide Parker on anyone on that team.

You know, if this is one trade and the CLE trade is a seperate one, I'd run Nash-Bell-Hill-Gooden-Stoudemire with Barbosa and Noah coming off the bench along with whatever players we get in the Marion trade. I couldn't be mad at that roster....
 

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Noah is a 6'11 Marion, IMO. He'd work well on this team, so I am not necessarily objecting to him being on the team. My favorite, outside the big two, is Horford. If there was a way to get Horford and KG out of Amare, I'd pull the trigger, but Noah and KG needs a few more parts....

Wait! maybe we give back ATL their #1 nest year and MIN#7 for #3 and we get Horford! That's a trade I'd do!

If the Suns can get Horford I don't see a desperate need for KG. Maybe the Suns can just deal directly with Atlanta for the #3 or more likely the #11 pick. Maybe the Suns are thinking that Noah just might slide to #11.
 

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Starters:
Nash
Bell
Miller
Noah
Stoudemire

Bench:
Barbosa
Diaw
Jones
Thomas
Hill?

I don't see us getting Miller and #4, that is unless we threw in the Atlanta pick as well... unless Iavaroni LOVES shawn marion, that is.

even so, the above team couldn't be stopped. Depth, 3 point bombers AND SIZE? Holy crap!
 

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How about Marion going to the Celtics for West, the #5 pick and Ratliff. We take Noah with that pick. This is a trade that already has been proposed and could seriously happen. Marion may not want to go to the Celtic but money could change everything. (make himn happy)

If that was possible, the Suns would have KG by now.
 

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How about Marion going to the Celtics for West, the #5 pick and Ratliff. We take Noah with that pick. This is a trade that already has been proposed and could seriously happen. Marion may not want to go to the Celtic but money could change everything. (make himn happy)

Marion to BOS is a non-starter. Marion has decided he doesn't want to go to BOS. I still think Ainge and Pierce need to call because they would have a helluva squad with Marion....
 

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You know, if this is one trade and the CLE trade is a seperate one, I'd run Nash-Bell-Hill-Gooden-Stoudemire with Barbosa and Noah coming off the bench along with whatever players we get in the Marion trade. I couldn't be mad at that roster....

ugh, I think Gooden is complete and utter garbage who probably hurts us more against SA and Dallas than Marion does.

what Cleveland trade are you referring to?
 

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How about Marion going to the Celtics for West, the #5 pick and Ratliff. We take Noah with that pick. This is a trade that already has been proposed and could seriously happen. Marion may not want to go to the Celtic but money could change everything. (make himn happy)

This deal has been proposed for quite sometime. I do think Boston wants to deal the #5 pick. Heck, everthing is possible and that is what is driving me crazy.
 

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