Now its about #16, 31, and 59

[Hoop Head]

You could very well be right. However, I'm not wanting the Suns to draft him at #16. Otherwise I do not have a problem with it.

I'm not sure if #31 and #59 is enough for the Suns to move up a bit in the 2nd round. Maybe #31, #59 and a future 2nd round pick might move the need.

They are at the top of the 2nd round as is. I think using the 2 picks they have might get them a late 1st from a team looking to clear cap space. Second round picks don't have guaranteed money. That would be the appeal to a team between 25-30, especially if they're looking at paying luxury tax next season.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You could very well be right. However, I'm not wanting the Suns to draft him at #16. Otherwise I do not have a problem with it.

I'm not sure if #31 and #59 is enough for the Suns to move up a bit in the 2nd round. Maybe #31, #59 and a future 2nd round pick might move the need.

Move up in the second round? We have the first pick in the second round.

 

[Mainstreet]

They are at the top of the 2nd round as is. I think using the 2 picks they have might get them a late 1st from a team looking to clear cap space. Second round picks don't have guaranteed money. That would be the appeal to a team between 25-30, especially if they're looking at paying luxury tax next season.

Move up in the second round? We have the first pick in the second round.

The Suns have the first pick in the 2nd round indeed. I should have indicated the Suns might be able to move up slightly from #31.

However, the downside the Suns would have to guarantee the salary of a first round pick as noted by Poop Head.

As I mentioned earlier, my gut feeling is the Suns will use #16 and #31 to move slightly from #16.

 

[Hoop Head]

The Suns have the first pick in the 2nd round indeed. I should have indicated the Suns might be able to move up slightly from #31.

However, the downside the Suns would have to guarantee the salary of a first round pick as noted by Poop Head.

As I mentioned earlier, my gut feeling is the Suns will use #16 and #31 to move slightly from #16.

It'd be great if we could find a team that would give up a pick around #23-#28 and a future pick for #16 and #31. Not sure of a team that would be interested in that but we don't need a late 1st so long as we have the 16th pick. The future pick doesn't have to be in next years draft, it could be later and have protection to make sure we don't get a lottery pick from someone.

 

[Mainstreet]

It'd be great if we could find a team that would give up a pick around #23-#28 and a future pick for #16 and #31. Not sure of a team that would be interested in that but we don't need a late 1st so long as we have the 16th pick. The future pick doesn't have to be in next years draft, it could be later and have protection to make sure we don't get a lottery pick from someone.

I always like the idea of stockpiling assets for future trades. However, another team would have to be very high on a player at #16 to do this and the Suns would have to believe their player would be there at #23-28. I'm presuming the other team would be giving the Suns a future first round pick back.

I'd prefer the Suns move up from #16 for a player they like.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is another reason the Suns should draft Ayton... a lack of big men after the top 10 players.

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[Mainstreet]

And more.

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[Mainstreet]

NBA Draft Net has Landry Shamet going to the Suns at #16. There is a lot to like.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

 

[GatorAZ]

NBA Draft Net has Landry Shamet going to the Suns at #16. There is a lot to like.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

6’5” and excellent shooter/passer. Will need to get stronger. Saw at the bottom he’s dealt with foot issues in the past which may explain his average burst.

Khyri Thomas is better than Reed at a younger age. I think he can contribute right away given his all around game.

 

[Mainstreet]

6’5” and excellent shooter/passer. Will need to get stronger. Saw at the bottom he’s dealt with foot issues in the past which may explain his average burst.

Khyri Thomas is better than Reed at a younger age. I think he can contribute right away given his all around game.

So many of these players are starting to blur lines in regard to their talent level. I can see the Reed comparison in regard to Thomas.

Shamet will have similar weaknesses as Trae Young except he is slightly taller.

I like what I see in Donte DiVincenzo as well.

 

[Errntknght]

My first impression of Shamet was terrible - I thought I was looking at Brandon Knight! They are a similar build and size. Of course, Brandon is not a terrible player... wouldn't be if his head was on straight, I should say. Shamet has better floor vision and passes better but the defensive write up him again sounds a lot like Brandon - video showed no D. That was plenty to put me off him entirely. We have to have better than average D in our PG.

I also checked out Jalen Brunson (Villanova) who someone, I thought, heralded as a defender. I watched two videos and was surprised to see he was bad on D - he was constantly getting too far away from his man to recover and contest a shot. So constantly that I wondered if it might be the defensive scheme for some strange reason - he always floated to the middle of the key but did nothing worthwhile there. He never applied pressure - ala Jevon Carter.

If Harrison returns I'd rather give him a shot at PG than either of the two above.

I watched more of Carter - I hate to disagree with AzSteve but I don't see a slow first step. I quite liked his offensive game. I confess a good bit of it was that he ran the old-fashioned give and go play well. He has a good midrange jumper, too. It's out of fashion but if teams are giving it to you, and you can hit it, it's still a good shot. If anything he may be too much of a gunslinger next to Booker but WVa relied on him for a lot of scoring, so there's that. He was slotted at 47 the last mock I looked at so you'd think 31 would safe but, frankly, I'd reach for him at 16 just to be sure.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I watched more of Carter - I hate to disagree with AzSteve but I don't see a slow first step. I quite liked his offensive game. I confess a good bit of it was that he ran the old-fashioned give and go play well. He has a good midrange jumper, too. It's out of fashion but if teams are giving it to you, and you can hit it, it's still a good shot. If anything he may be too much of a gunslinger next to Booker but WVa relied on him for a lot of scoring, so there's that. He was slotted at 47 the last mock I looked at so you'd think 31 would safe but, frankly, I'd reach for him at 16 just to be sure.

I watched a lot of Carter as a soph and junior and that first step was mediocre at best. His scouting report still shows lack of elite first step but maybe like me they are dealing with old info.

As far as him being a gunslinger, he had to be to a certain extent. That team needed his scoring but his shot selection is worrisome at times. He's just barely 6 feet tall (without shoes) and is still more of a shooting guard than a point. I still don't see him being more than an end of the bench player but we'll see.

 

[pokerface]

The real story of this draft could be what we do with the "other" picks. I mean we have no idea what will happen while getting Ayton is almost a slam dunk.

 

[overseascardfan]

Maybe you take Carter as a back up PG. PHX will solve the C position with the #1 but will still have questions at PF & PG. It’s a shame Metu seems like another Chriss because without the discipline and attitude issues his two way potential is very intriguing. Can PHX find a defensive PF to put next to Ayton and find a good two way PG this offseason to go with Booker?

 

[pokerface]

Maybe you take Carter as a back up PG. PHX will solve the C position with the #1 but will still have questions at PF & PG. It’s a shame Metu seems like another Chriss because without the discipline and attitude issues his two way potential is very intriguing. Can PHX find a defensive PF to put next to Ayton and find a good two way PG this offseason to go with Booker?

A good two two way player to play with Booker would be Shai. Been saying and am going to keep saying it.

 

[devilalum]

Maybe you take Carter as a back up PG. PHX will solve the C position with the #1 but will still have questions at PF & PG. It’s a shame Metu seems like another Chriss because without the discipline and attitude issues his two way potential is very intriguing. Can PHX find a defensive PF to put next to Ayton and find a good two way PG this offseason to go with Booker?

I don't think PF is an issue this off season. You've got to give Chriss and Bender the upcoming season to develop and prove themselves. Maybe some new coaching will help one of them rise to the next level. Draft Ayton and find a freaking PG?!?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

A good two two way player to play with Booker would be Shai. Been saying and am going to keep saying it.

I like Shai a lot but don’t think he falls to 16. Earlier in season it was possible but he’s shot by that point. Top talent ends at 14 imo.

 

[Mainstreet]

On Suns.com there is a reservation form for the Suns 2018 draft party. I used to attend these a lot before moving out of the area. They were great fun.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

On Suns.com there is a reservation form for the Suns 2018 draft party. I used to attend these a lot before moving out of the area. They were great fun.

Man if ever there was one to attend it’s this one.

 

[pokerface]

I like Shai a lot but don’t think he falls to 16. Earlier in season it was possible but he’s shot by that point. Top talent ends at 14 imo.

I agree with that. But a couple token mock drafts keep my hopes alive.


I still wish we could get the clips #13....

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Wouldn’t mind landing Robert Williams with the 16th but I think he goes two picks before us. Not a terrible compliment to Ayton. Good defender/shotblocker and rim runner. Ayton can shoot outside. Not as worried about this being a ristic situation because Williams is not a statue.

 

[Ronin]

I like boatwright.
A big that can stretch the defense.
Boatwright looked like a baller against my NMSU Aggies in Hawaii.

 

[Ronin]

Oops Boatwright is staying at USC for his senior season. Dang it.

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow 6m6 minutes ago

Bates-Diop could be a candidate at No. 31 for Suns.

 

[elindholm]

Bates-Diop

Sounds like the stage name of a hiphop DJ.