Now its about #16, 31, and 59

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
I like Miles but I worry about him finding a position in the NBA. Regardless, he should be no worse than a solid rotation player wherever he plays.

I almost see Miles like I do Knox as insurance for the PF position.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
Calipari made that Knox to Tatum comp too and maybe he's right but Kevin showed nowhere near the instincts that Tatum showed last season.

If the Suns do not move up to draft a PG, I willing to take the risk at #16. I'm feeling he has that potential.
 

AzStevenCal

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
36,867
Reaction score
16,679
I almost see Miles like I do Knox as insurance for the PF position.

I think Miles is a much safer pick but Knox might have higher upside. Not that it's a deal breaker but those toothpick legs of Kevin's concern me. Tyson got away with his little sister's legs but it's rare.
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
64,109
Reaction score
59,085
Location
SoCal
NBA TV in their mock has Miles Bridges being drafted by the Suns at #16. It's an interesting pick.
I would be beyond stoked. He’s undersized but his crazy athleticism and versatility would demand court time. I could see him being a very effective small ball 4. Particularly with Ayton and a strong and defensive oriented JJ.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
I think Miles is a much safer pick but Knox might have higher upside. Not that it's a deal breaker but those toothpick legs of Kevin's concern me. Tyson got away with his little sister's legs but it's rare.

I guess I'm forgiving the legs as he is so young. Really never paid much attention.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
I would be beyond stoked. He’s undersized but his crazy athleticism and versatility would demand court time. I could see him being a very effective small ball 4. Particularly with Ayton and a strong and defensive oriented JJ.

I'd be excited by this pick as well. The Suns really need to go BPA if they keep #16.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
Thoughts from Gambo about #16.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
Also about players in the NBA. It teaches to never undervalue draft picks.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

Hoop Head

ASFN Icon
Joined
Feb 4, 2005
Posts
17,589
Reaction score
12,811
Location
Tempe, AZ
Also about players in the NBA. It teaches to never undervalue draft picks.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

That's a lot higher than I would have guessed. I supposed it make sense to a certain degree but still seems high. I would have guessed 35% at the most.
 

AzStevenCal

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
36,867
Reaction score
16,679
That's a lot higher than I would have guessed. I supposed it make sense to a certain degree but still seems high. I would have guessed 35% at the most.

I would have thought less than 10%. Is he talking about just first year players from last year or all players? Either way, it's a shocker to me.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
I'm watching Donte DiVincenzo on NBA TV.

I want him as well. I want them all. :p

Donte is quite the leaper.
 

CardsFan88

ASFN Addict
Joined
May 28, 2002
Posts
7,642
Reaction score
4,742
My guess is one or two things.

1. Definitely higher due to expanded rosters
2. Also higher if it includes all the guys that were on a roster even 1 game (guys shuttling in out of G league and off the street)
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
That's always what I assumed... makes little sense to move up without a specific player in mind.

This is true but the Suns need to lay the groundwork ahead of time for potential trades. I bet McDonough is really working the phones for trade partners if a player slides.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
McDonough is indeed looking at trade up options.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

Raze

Suns fan since '89
Joined
May 20, 2017
Posts
626
Reaction score
599
Location
Arizona
I would be beyond stoked. He’s undersized but his crazy athleticism and versatility would demand court time. I could see him being a very effective small ball 4. Particularly with Ayton and a strong and defensive oriented JJ.

Miles Bridges is a raging fire... on offense. Unfortunately he puts little to no effort on his defensive game. Plagued with horrific off ball footwork and below average defensive IQ, he's a massive liability on one end. His footwork might be the worst of the prospects projected to go in the 1st round. He violates every Defensive fundamental principle in the game (I just got back from running a youth basketball camp today so FUNDAMENTALS is fresh on my mind).

It's actually quite weird that he has such a quick first step on O and has such clumsy steps on D. I'm guessing he has the potential to be a good defender with his MAN body and athletic ability. But I'm more than just a little concerned he thinks D is a joke. The risk on Miles is that he'll never care enough to be a good defender. As you guys have probably figured out by now, I have low tolerance for guys who only play one end of the floor. (Book included)

I'm not saying no to Miles Bridges at #16, I AM saying I sure hope someone takes that decision out of our hands before we have a shot at him.
 
Last edited:

ASUCHRIS

ONE HEART BEAT!!!
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Posts
16,664
Reaction score
14,994
The more I think about Holiday at 16 the more I can accept it.

There is not any room for our 16th pick to be a star anyway. Accepting your role is an extremely undervalued attribute. Can‘t have a roster full of young guys trying to be a star.
With Holiday you get a rookie who is not really a reach, probably won‘t have any of the typical rookie problems since he knows NBA life and is turning 22. He knows how to be a pro, that alone and the positive effect that might have on Ayton too might be worth drafting Holiday instead of someone with high potential but maybe bad habits, immaturity etc..

Totally disagree. Someone with serious potential will drop, so why reach big time with Holiday?

You realize we have #31, and 3-4 potential similar profile PG's that will be available there, right?
 

Errntknght

Registered User
Joined
Sep 24, 2002
Posts
6,342
Reaction score
319
Location
Phoenix
Also about players in the NBA. It teaches to never undervalue draft picks.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

There are about 450 players in the league. Ten years of first round picks is 300. I think the average tenure is the league is less that ten years. If all 1st round picks stuck that long that would still leave 150 non first rounders - that's 33%. 42% sounds about right.
 

Phrazbit

ASFN Icon
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Posts
20,367
Reaction score
11,462
There are about 450 players in the league. Ten years of first round picks is 300. I think the average tenure is the league is less that ten years. If all 1st round picks stuck that long that would still leave 150 non first rounders - that's 33%. 42% sounds about right.

Yeah, I suspect that is very misleading. I don't doubt that a ton of teams have 3-4 second round and undrafted guys on their roster... who almost exclusively ride the pine. I would bet that 1st round picks do 80%+ of the scoring around the league.
 

Chaplin

Better off silent
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
46,462
Reaction score
16,990
Location
Round Rock, TX
We're not getting Trae Young. Looks like Dallas will draft him at #5 and trade him to Atlanta for Doncic.
 

Raze

Suns fan since '89
Joined
May 20, 2017
Posts
626
Reaction score
599
Location
Arizona
I know Mikal Bridges is a bit redundant with JJ, but I'd trade up for him if he slips past 10. I think he has the best superstar potential that is being mentioned as a possible non top 10 guy. Reminds me a bit of Kawhi.

BK, Book, JJ, Mikal, Ayton
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
119,253
Reaction score
59,868
We're not getting Trae Young. Looks like Dallas will draft him at #5 and trade him to Atlanta for Doncic.

I wonder if Atlanta and Dallas are trying to prevent the possibility of the Suns doing a trade with Memphis for Doncic.
 

AzStevenCal

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
36,867
Reaction score
16,679
There are about 450 players in the league. Ten years of first round picks is 300. I think the average tenure is the league is less that ten years. If all 1st round picks stuck that long that would still leave 150 non first rounders - that's 33%. 42% sounds about right.

Yeah, after I started thinking about the numbers I realized he was probably correct. It means less than it sounds like it does though IMO. I'm sure that most of the non-garbage minutes still go to former first round picks.
 
Top