O'Brien Schofield Released

[Buckybird]

Twitter reports that there are 24 waiver claims for Schofield.

LOL. Maybe he had some trade value. Something must be up, because it's crazy that we released this guy instead of Zack Nash or some other bottom of the roster player.

Maybe they thought they could only get a 6th or 7th for him. We already know most peeps on this board consider those throwaways & gamble picks & we also know that BA & Keim don't care about them after drafting Swope, so they just cut Schohawks ass.

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe they thought they could only get a 6th or 7th for him. We already know most peeps on this board consider those throwaways & gamble picks & we also know that BA & Keim don't care about them after drafting Swope, so they just cut Schohawks ass.

Nice comeback.

 

[Duckjake]

Maybe, but for two seasons he was stuck behind the hulking, decomposing corpse of Joey Porter, and he was productive.

It's amazing that no one had anything bad to say about O'Brien Schofield until six hours ago.

Amazing. Simply amazing.

He may have been stuck behind Clark Haggans but not Joey Porter. Schofield wasn't in condition to start his rookie year and in 2011 Sam Acho had moved into the Joey Porter slot. But for a 4th round pick coming off a severe injury he was relatively productive.

Its also not amazing that nothing bad was said about him until he was released. On ASFN If you're on the roster you're a solid player. As soon as you are released you were always a bum. But we're really no different than other fans in that regard.

 

[Quinn McCollum]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 9m OLB/DE O'Brien Schofield claimed off waivers by the Seahawks, according to his agent, @blakebaratz.

 

[Bodha]

Scho to the Seahawks is a good fit. He wont be needed immediately since they are so stacked at pass rush. Hes a great depth guy.


inb4 everyone bugs out because Seattle got him. It doesnt matter who Seattle gets. We werent contenders before the move, nor are we after, so theres no reason to worry about how good teams we already cant beat get.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Scho to the Seahawks is a good fit. He wont be needed immediately since they are so stacked at pass rush. Hes a great depth guy.


inb4 everyone bugs out because Seattle got him. It doesnt matter who Seattle gets. We werent contenders before the move, nor are we after, so theres no reason to worry about how good teams we already cant beat get.

If you were Buddha, not Bodha, I'd play real close attention to your predictions.

 

[CardsFan88]

No way he got that many waiver claims then if SEA got him.

 

[Bodha]

No way he got that many waiver claims then if SEA got him.

The waiver wire is weird. It kind of takes into account whos due to get one. So if the other teams were awarded some claims in the past, maybe Sea was due.

 

[CardsFan88]

The waiver wire is weird. It kind of takes into account whos due to get one. So if the other teams were awarded some claims in the past, maybe Sea was due.

Shouldn't it reset with a new league year? Yeah I guess it's tricky. Still though, if he had 24 claims, Seattle would have to be near the top of the waiver claim which means they would of had to jump a ton of teams, 12-20 of them or so.

If 24 claims is correct then only 7 teams didn't put in a claim. Even if all 7 were the crappiest 7, Seattle would have had to jump a lot of teams who claimed someone else. Without looking there were probably 20 or so teams worse than Seattle last year.

Hopefully he didn't get the whole playbook and just the base defense, and hopefully only digitally. You know if they did it all digitally and required a log-in it would be easier for a team to keep its playbook safe since they could remove his access as soon as they cut him. If they haven't done it, they should.

There's ways around it, but few are going to take snapshots of each page under the assumption a few weeks, months, years later they'll be cut.

That's really the only thing I'm worried about when it comes to Scho landing in SEA, that our new defense would be in their hands.

Seems like every year PC picks up one of our defenders.

 

[Phrazbit]

I would imagine a lot of teams have used waiver claims at this point, the order is probably a complete mess from where you'd picture it based on 2013 record.

The 24 teams does not surprise. The guy is young and has been productive in his PT, and just about every team could use a situation pass rusher, especially for his near league minimum contract. Cutting him was baffling. Will have to watch and see if he passes his physical in his new home.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I would imagine a lot of teams have used waiver claims at this point, the order is probably a complete mess from where you'd picture it based on 2013 record.

The 24 teams does not surprise. The guy is young and has been productive in his PT, and just about every team could use a situation pass rusher, especially for his near league minimum contract. Cutting him was baffling. Will have to watch and see if he passes his physical in his new home.

His $1.3m contract is $500k over vet minimum.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Per a league source, Schofield was cut within a day after being told he’d be a major contributor to the team’s defense in 2013. The move also has sparked speculation regarding a potential conflict between those in the Cardinals organization who want to win now (as evidenced by the Abraham acquisition) and those hoping to build for the future (which would have favored keeping Schofield around).

Schofield started the first nine games of the 2012 season before suffering a season-ending ankle injury against the Packers.

A fourth-round pick in 2010, Schofield will now get a chance to play out his contract year with the Seahawks. It’s unknown whether any teams below Seattle in the priority list made a claim for his services. However, none of the non-playoff teams opted to take a flier on Schofield.

And that’s a good thing. Keeping Schofield in the NFC West is just another reason why the NFC West, not long ago the most irrelevant division in football, has become the most compelling.

Link.

 

[daves]

I would imagine a lot of teams have used waiver claims at this point, the order is probably a complete mess from where you'd picture it based on 2013 record.

Wait, are you implying that the waivers order changes after a team picks up a player, like in fantasy football? I've never heard that before. I was under the impression that the waivers order is static based on the last year's standings (in the offseason) or the most recent week's standings (at some point in the season).



...dave

 

[TJ]

I have a feeling that, barring injury, this has the potential to bite us in the ass. I always liked Scho and still believe he can be a potent pass rusher.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

How in the H did Seattle win the claim if 27 were submitted?

 

[TJ]

How in the H did Seattle win the claim if 27 were submitted?

Read the PFT link that BHC posted. It says none of the non-playoff teams in a lower position put a bid in for Scho.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

We don't know the reason(s) he was cut. Maybe there's a failed drug test looming or something of that nature.

Either way, I think Quentin Groves was a better player last year and I don't remember any commotion about not bringing him back.

 

[Mitch]

We don't know the reason(s) he was cut. Maybe there's a failed drug test looming or something of that nature.

Either way, I think Quentin Groves was a better player last year and I don't remember any commotion about not bringing him back.

Good points. I think three things worked against the team keeping him:

1. His salary, $1.3M, especially when the team had to be creative in order to add Winston & Abraham.

2. He's not a 34 OLB who can slide down to DE in a 4 man rush.

3. His injury history.

Quentin Groves was better because his salary was low, he could slide down from 34 OLB and play RDE in the 4 man rush and he stayed healthy (for the most part).

As for Scho---he's going to a team that plays a 4-3, which means he would play WOLB. It's a good fit for him, that is if he can pick up their system faster than he did Ray Horton's, and if he can stay healthy. If either of those ifs becomes an issue, he might not even make their roster.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Nice.

The minute Irvin and Schofield are on the same field for Seattle, RUN THE BALL.

 

[Shane]

I have a feeling that, barring injury, this has the potential to bite us in the ass. I always liked Scho and still believe he can be a potent pass rusher.

Agree

 

[kerouac9]

Good points. I think three things worked against the team keeping him:

1. His salary, $1.3M, especially when the team had to be creative in order to add Winston & Abraham.

2. He's not a 34 OLB who can slide down to DE in a 4 man rush.

3. His injury history.

Quentin Groves was better because his salary was low, he could slide down from 34 OLB and play RDE in the 4 man rush and he stayed healthy (for the most part).

As for Scho---he's going to a team that plays a 4-3, which means he would play WOLB. It's a good fit for him, that is if he can pick up their system faster than he did Ray Horton's, and if he can stay healthy. If either of those ifs becomes an issue, he might not even make their roster.

1-3 here are all pure fantasy.

1) The Team had $10M in excess salary cap space before Schofield's release. Easy to jam $3.5M under the salary cap when you have that much space.

2) There's really no evidence that this is the case, except your 6 months' of repeated assertions that this is what we're doing.

3) A contact injury at the Senior Bowl and another contact injury last year when a teammate rolled up on him? Sounds pretty concerning.

I'm closer to CBus's POV that maybe he has a substance abuse suspension or something coming down the pipe. It'll be interesting to see what happens with our special teams units this year. Usually these young guys like Schofiled and Swope are key for special teams. We currently seem like we're going to run 8-10 DBs out in our kick and punt return units.

 

[Cardiac]

1-3 here are all pure fantasy.

1) The Team had $10M in excess salary cap space before Schofield's release. Easy to jam $3.5M under the salary cap when you have that much space.

2) There's really no evidence that this is the case, except your 6 months' of repeated assertions that this is what we're doing.

3) A contact injury at the Senior Bowl and another contact injury last year when a teammate rolled up on him? Sounds pretty concerning.

I'm closer to CBus's POV that maybe he has a substance abuse suspension or something coming down the pipe. It'll be interesting to see what happens with our special teams units this year. Usually these young guys like Schofiled and Swope are key for special teams. We currently seem like we're going to run 8-10 DBs out in our kick and punt return units.

I was bummed to learn that Scho had been cut but I'm not crushed by it. Didn't I read somewhere that he had to have offseason shoulder surgery a year or two ago.

The FO appears to be looking for creating as much CAP space as possible with an eye towards the future.

Anyone who has attended TC so far notice what the ST's personnel kick and punt return units looks like. I gotta believe there is a couple of LBer's and TE's on those teams.

 

[Duckjake]

1-3 here are all pure fantasy.

1) The Team had $10M in excess salary cap space before Schofield's release. Easy to jam $3.5M under the salary cap when you have that much space.

2) There's really no evidence that this is the case, except your 6 months' of repeated assertions that this is what we're doing.

3) A contact injury at the Senior Bowl and another contact injury last year when a teammate rolled up on him? Sounds pretty concerning.

I'm closer to CBus's POV that maybe he has a substance abuse suspension or something coming down the pipe. It'll be interesting to see what happens with our special teams units this year. Usually these young guys like Schofiled and Swope are key for special teams. We currently seem like we're going to run 8-10 DBs out in our kick and punt return units.

Also could very likely be more house cleaning of Horton guys like with Rhodes and Wilson. New coaches new players. Been that way for decades.