Oct 1st Suns vs Kings @7pm

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I guarantee you that with a real NBA level point guard, Ayton would not be getting outplayed by Willie Cauley Stein. In my opinion, point guard play will be the difference between Ayton being a combination of David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon and Ayton being a combination of Demarcus Cousins and Andrew Bynum.

He isn't. Ayton has 3 blocks to WCS's 4 turnovers in addition to outscoring him. I can live with the rebound advantage going the other way.
 

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Good, but still getting outplayed by Cauley Stein and zoning out from time to time. This team needs a point guard in the worst way, and the more the team plays like this, the worse McDonough's trade leverage will get. He really needed to pull the trigger before preseason started. And he needs to pull it ASAP before it gets even worse.
I dont know how you are getting that he is getting outplayed.

WCS has a few more rebounds, played more minutes, racked up stats with Ayton on the bench.
 

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All right. Holmes playing mean under the boards.
 

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I dont know how you are getting that he is getting outplayed.

WCS has a few more rebounds, played more minutes, racked up stats with Ayton on the bench.

Better shooting percentage as well. And more active overall.

Meanwhile, Harrison is getting lit up by Yogi-freaking-Farrell and is a turnover machine on offense. At this point, I don't even want him on our G League team.
 

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Reported as day to day still recovering from his surgery.

I know you may not want to hear this but this is goods news for the Suns when he recovers. I could live with him starting.
 

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Because he is an actual NBA player. Not a great one, but at least he is an NBA player.

As in 13th or 14th guy, but yeah, right now that's the best we have, which isn't anywhere near good enough.
 

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I know you may not want to hear this but this is goods news for the Suns when he recovers. I could live with him starting.

You mean if he recovers. His injury is of a nature where that's not a given. And even then, he is third string caliber (which granted is still far superior to Harrison).
 

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Dragan Bender is the caricature of a guy pretending to be a NBA player.

It has to be hard to be that bad even when trying to be bad.
 

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At this moment, Bender's +/- is a -17. Our next worst is a -4.

Make him walk the plank. :)
 

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You mean if he recovers. His injury is of a nature where that's not a given. And even then, he is third string caliber (which granted is still far superior to Harrison).

Let's agree. I like Canaan better than Harrison.
 

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Bright spots

Ayton--seems to score and rebound effortlessly. Defense OK too.
Jackson--Shot looks better, just has a pesence
Warren--just such a great scorer.
Okobo to a lesser extent
 

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At this moment, Bender's +/- is a -17. Our next worst is a -4.

Make him walk the plank. :)

He needed at least a year or two in the G League. He was rushed to the NBA when not ready, and it ruined him. Management better be careful, or the same fate could await Okobo and Melton.
 

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I loved that play! Ayton just called for the ball in the post, and established a solid position. Love it!
 

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When Booker comes back, Ayton and him on the court at the same time, WOW!
 

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Harrison and Bender don't deserve to be on this team as of today.
 
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