Official Cards Apology for Halftime Tillman Tribute Audio Problem

[NEZCardsfan]

The problem Lloydian is that the Tillman legacy is the BEST thing this team has going for it imagewise. And, they manage to completely butcher that as well. Yeah, I can feel some sympathy for whoever was running the program. But, how can you NOT rehearse this dozens of times so you know exactly how it's going to look and sound in all parts of the stadium?

Well, they did have a Stones concert there earlier in the week....which the sound sucked at.

What is going on here??

 

[ajcardfan]

Well, they did have a Stones concert there earlier in the week....which the sound sucked at.

What is going on here??

I'm sure the Stones would have their own amps and speakers. Maybe the acoustics suck and that is part of the problem.

 

[NEZCardsfan]

I'm sure the Stones would have their own amps and speakers. Maybe the acoustics suck and that is part of the problem.

Alice Cooper's sound was much better because he used his own stuff.

Those speakers up there don't look cheap......why can't they figure it out?? Can we organize some ASFNers to split a 30 pack and figure out the sound for free??

 

[Derm]

please see AZCards21 for his previous posts on the matter - he be da man

 

[ajcardfan]

Alice Cooper's sound was much better because he used his own stuff.

Those speakers up there don't look cheap......why can't they figure it out?? Can we organize some ASFNers to split a 30 pack and figure out the sound for free??

The Rolling Stones were using the stadium speakers? Seriously? I find that really hard to believe! The wealthiest group on the planet is too cheap to but their own sound system?

 

[Lloydian]

Neither of them used the stadium's speakers, and for me, the Alice Cooper portion was unlistenable. The Rolling Stones portion sounded better, but both were less than ideal.

As to carrying water for the Bidwill family, I think it's more a matter of logic. There seems to be so much willingness to place blame on them rather than try to understand the problems sometimes. They certainly deserve a rich level of blame for things that occurred for the first 10-15 years here, but there did come a point where they started moving in the right direction.

I grow weary of the people who, when confronted with problems for the team, just throw up their hands and decree that the Bidwill family must be directly responsible for the problem. I see a family that I'd be willing to bet is more tired of losing than any of us are, but they have to make the decisions in the team's best interest still.

I'm also willing to bet that while family members were involved in the process of organizing the content of the tribute, they probably assumed that competent people in the organization were handling the equipment issues.

As to there being sound issues in the past, please enlighten me. When did we last get a mixing error where the music soundtrack was audible but the spoken portion was not (other than, of course, last Sunday)?

 

[devilfan02]

Geez, all the weeping and wailing. Don't you have anything better to do. It's obvious you're a Sun Devil fan and still have a hard on for the Cardinals because of what happened between the Cards and ASU. We got it. You can quit complaining now. Sheesh!!!

WTF? I have no problem with what happened between the Bidwills and ASU. If I did, I def wouldn't be as big a Cards fan as I am. I def wouldn't waste my time posting about the Cards if I didn't like the team. Thanks for trying to reading between the lines though. You don't get it either, I DON'T LIKE THE BIDWILLS BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT. Come close to making it to the playoffs, they can't even do that. Oh wait, they can...... every 15 years

Seriously, what they hell was that post about?

 

[devilfan02]

Paola Boivin in todays AZ Republic-

"Is that what (the fans) remember? Probably not, because during a halftime tribute about Tillman, the University of Phoenix Stadium audio was so poor that the fans struggled to hear the big-screen interviews from former Tillman teamates and others. If the Cardinals were to do anything right, these were the 10 minutes they should have made sure were flawless. Stunning."

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Would anyone happen to have access to a nonrealplayer format of the tribute video?

 

[Ryanwb]

Would anyone happen to have access to a nonrealplayer format of the tribute video?

Geeze, the Bidwill's can't do anything right

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Geeze, the Bidwill's can't do anything right

[ducksforcover]Jim O is to blame for this one![/ducksforcover]

 

[devilfan02]

Geeze, the Bidwill's can't do anything right

Shhhhhhhhh, the Bidwills are posting on this thread. Be careful

 

[azsouthendzone]

Are you Bill Bidwill himself? You constantly defend that inept family, I don't get it? Have you been to a game this year? The sound system has been horrendous all year and they failed to fix it when they needed it the most- The Pat Tillman Tribute. What don't you get about that? All this family does is apologize yet we never see changes

The problem is that you point out a dispute between the Fiesta Bowl and the Cardinals that is no longer an issue, and you report it like it is current news. I think you need to get your facts straight. And the issue of the Fiesta Bowl ever leaving is bogus and you know it. You sound like a disgruntled ASU fan. I was as pissed about the tribute as anyone. i left immediately following the tribute, which is the earliest I have ever left. But when it comes to the Fiesta Bowl, don't act like Junker and the boys are blameless, and don't act as if it has anything to do with last night's debacle.

 

[ajcardfan]

The problem is that you point out a dispute between the Fiesta Bowl and the Cardinals that is no longer an issue, and you report it like it is current news. I think you need to get your facts straight. And the issue of the Fiesta Bowl ever leaving is bogus and you know it. You sound like a disgruntled ASU fan. I was as pissed about the tribute as anyone. i left immediately following the tribute, which is the earliest I have ever left. But when it comes to the Fiesta Bowl, don't act like Junker and the boys are blameless, and don't act as if it has anything to do with last night's debacle.

They struck an agreement on the club suites. Four will be redone in Fiesta Bowl colors. But, the Cards are still not happy about the signage issue. Read the LA Times article. I hope to heck they are smart enough to not sue.

 

[az jam]

"While the technical reasons for those audio problems have been addressed, the bottom line is that we dropped the ball. Our intent was to provide a very special tribute to Pat and in the end we did not do that. We regret that very much."

That is BS! They have never been addressed. If they had done a rehearsal they would have know there was a problem. They should replay this at the Detroit game.

 

[devilfan02]

The problem is that you point out a dispute between the Fiesta Bowl and the Cardinals that is no longer an issue, and you report it like it is current news. I think you need to get your facts straight. And the issue of the Fiesta Bowl ever leaving is bogus and you know it. You sound like a disgruntled ASU fan. I was as pissed about the tribute as anyone. i left immediately following the tribute, which is the earliest I have ever left. But when it comes to the Fiesta Bowl, don't act like Junker and the boys are blameless, and don't act as if it has anything to do with last night's debacle.

Jesus Christ, how many times to I have to write I was just posting what I heard on the radio (regarding the FB and the Bidwills). Thank you AJ for posting the facts, AZsouthendzone needs to get his facts straight. Read the post you quoted me on, is there anything in there that recommends "I'm a disgruntled ASU fan?" Last I checked honoring an American hero takes precedence over everything. What do my ASU loyalties have to do with the Bidwills screwing up the Tillman tribute then offering a half ass apology. I am a ASU fan and a Cardinal fan, am I not allowed to voice my displeasure over what happened? Both of you (40year and AZsouth) need to quit putting words in my mouth. If my posting name wasn't "devilfan02" neither of you would accuse me of this. I have never once, NOT ONCE, posted anything regarding the Bidwills and the ASU lawsuit. To be honest, I don't even know the details about that lawsuit and I heard it got dropped anyways. Thats the least of my worries. I care about putting a winning team on the field and we are extremely far away from that...... because of the Bidwills

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Nice.

Is there anything in the Cardinals organization, or that bears the Cardinal name that works, or does anything right?

What a joke.

Are the tombstones in the Bidwill family burial plot shaped like clowns? I hope so cause the only way thier name is worth more than the dirt in the city dump is if this whole organization is one big fat joke.

 

[RedViper]

Are the tombstones in the Bidwill family burial plot shaped like clowns?

Thats funny as hell. I actually think I might like one of those for myself. Just to torque off the unlucky ones that get to lie next to me for eternity. My wife is actually afraid of clowns. She wouldn't like that one bit. I might have to have it.

 

[40yearfan]

WTF? I have no problem with what happened between the Bidwills and ASU. If I did, I def wouldn't be as big a Cards fan as I am. I def wouldn't waste my time posting about the Cards if I didn't like the team. Thanks for trying to reading between the lines though. You don't get it either, I DON'T LIKE THE BIDWILLS BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT. Come close to making it to the playoffs, they can't even do that. Oh wait, they can...... every 15 years

Seriously, what they hell was that post about?

I get tired of the broken record syndrome and I'm sure the Bidwill's don't like you any better than you like them.

 

[B-Dogg]

Im sorry but as someone whose family has worked directly with the Bidwills on the orginal stadium site and when things didnt go as plan they tried to have my family member fired, I have no sympathy for these people. They have put a **** ass product on the field year after year and yet people still want to defend them, unbelievable. This is the losingest franchise in all of professional sports that has to say something. Its not as if there have been multiple owner there have been one, at some point you have to blame the person at the top. If this were any other company the CEO would have been fired, the president would have been impeached. I dont have a solution but things were the same in St Louis as they are here cheap, cheap, cheap... Just calling as I see it and as it has been proven out over the years...

 

[devilfan02]

I get tired of the broken record syndrome and I'm sure the Bidwill's don't like you any better than you like them.

Sure they like me, I paid for my season tickets. It is a broken record, and it was spinning yesterday after they botched the Tribute. You keep your accusations to yourself, I'll talk about the Bidwills all I want till they prove me wrong.

Just to clear things up, yesterday (on and off the field) was more then just the usual "broken record syndrome" here in AZ

 

[AZCB34]

But they certainly could have a done a practice run or two. Planning isn't one of the Cardinals strengths, though.

Denny was in charge of it. While the first string people in charge of running the tribute screwed up, the scout team tribute runners were primed and ready to roll.

 

[Ryanwb]

Is there anything in the Cardinals organization, or that bears the Cardinal name that works, or does anything right?

i do believe the St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series this year

 

[Bobcat]

CAN THIS TEAM OR FRANCHISE EVER GET ANYTHING RIGHT...???
SEEMS LIKE...WELL I WILL LEAVE THIS FOR ANOTHER DAY AND TIME. YOU CAN TELL THAT I AM REALLY FED-UP WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.

SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPS, I AM P.O'ed...!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOBCAT

 

[Trey]

As to carrying water for the Bidwill family, I think it's more a matter of logic. There seems to be so much willingness to place blame on them rather than try to understand the problems sometimes. They certainly deserve a rich level of blame for things that occurred for the first 10-15 years here, but there did come a point where they started moving in the right direction.

You know, I too thought they had started to move in the right direction, but this year has sealed it for me. The one constant in the 60+ years of ineptitude, is the Bidwill family. I'll keep watching from a distance, but I'm done buying tickets, jerseys, etc. Bidwills, for the good of the franchise you proclaim to cherish, please sell, retire, enjoy life, and leave the team in the hands of those who are competent.

I grow weary of the people who, when confronted with problems for the team, just throw up their hands and decree that the Bidwill family must be directly responsible for the problem. I see a family that I'd be willing to bet is more tired of losing than any of us are, but they have to make the decisions in the team's best interest still.

They may be tired of losing, but they can't be as frustrated as those of us who are PAYING to watch the losing. I'd be much more tolerant if I was raking it in like Billy and the fam.

I'm also willing to bet that while family members were involved in the process of organizing the content of the tribute, they probably assumed that competent people in the organization were handling the equipment issues.

One of the first rules of business: @ss-u-me. That and the fact that the buck stops at the top. The Bidwills have hired the people in the organization. Hiding behind their hirees supposed ineptitude doesn't work. Ask yourself one thing; if Jerry Colangelo owned the Cardinals, would they be a perennial doormat, and would they screw up the biggest PR opportunity in the history of the franchise? I think not.

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