Official NFL Combine Thread

[WildBB]

Wow, i thought Sintim would run a little faster than that.

Yeah that 4.79 is a little pedestrian.

 

[Goober Man]

I was talking in the second round, if Wells and Moreno are gone. Maybe he drops even more now. But he put up some good numbers. He'll probobly do more at the pro-day. As far as him bailing, at least he showed up, that's more than McCoy did.

More than McCoy did??? McCoy had the flu and was going to give a go till the flu got the best of him. I'm not sure if McCoy stayed for the combine but he didn't leave without telling anyone (like Andre Smith did).

Also he doesn't help than Andre Brown showed up at the combine totally unprepared. Having only working out two weeks before the combine just screams "Red Flag".

Also I am a lil disappointed about Sintim's 40 time but I still would be for drafting him in the 1st round.

 

[Shogun]

What's Matthews weight?

240 IIRC, but don't quote me on it.

 

[Shogun]

Is Barwin a 1st rounder with these numbers? He produced in college.

He should be. His workout numbers are on par or better than Michael Johnson's, Orakpo and Everette Brown.

 

[WildBB]

More than McCoy did??? McCoy had the flu and was going to give a go till the flu got the best of him. I'm not sure if McCoy stayed for the combine but he didn't leave without telling anyone (like Andre Smith did).

Also he doesn't help than Andre Brown showed up at the combine totally unprepared. Having only working out two weeks before the combine just screams "Red Flag".

Also I am a lil disappointed about Sintim's 40 time but I still would be for drafting him in the 1st round.

I was not talking about Andre Smith at all. Just Andre Brown, and from what I saw he put up good numbers and had a good senior bowl.

I didn't know about McCoys flu.

 

[Shogun]

Williams is a guy I've had some interest in as an heir to Hayes' spot, but don't know enough about him.
What can you tell me, combine-wise?

He's quick and explosive and will put his head in the traffic to get to the ball carrier. His long speed isn't that impressive and has trouble in coverage. I would definitely look at him in the second day if for nothing else being that third middle linebacker.

 

[Goober Man]

I was not talking about Andre Smith at all. Just Andre Brown, and from what I saw he put up good numbers and had a good senior bowl.

I didn't know about McCoys flu.

Ah...there is too many Andres!...The way Andre Brown performed at the combine it would be a mircale if he fell to us in the second round (I'm not for drafting him in the first btw).

What I am suprised about is how little love Ian Johnson from Boise State is getting. He put up some nice numbers at the combine and had a good college career so what gives?

WR Derrick Williams from Penn State also had the flu and that explains his bad 40 which was a 4.6 when he was expected to run in the 4.4 range.

 

[WildBB]

Ah...there is too many Andres!...The way Andre Brown performed at the combine it would be a mircale if he fell to us in the second round (I'm not for drafting him in the first btw).

What I am suprised about is how little love Ian Johnson from Boise State is getting. He put up some nice numbers at the combine and had a good college career so what gives?

WR Derrick Williams from Penn State also had the flu and that explains his bad 40 which was a 4.6 when he was expected to run in the 4.4 range.

Me neither, in the 2nd would be good. He'd be better value there than McCoy at 31 , IMO. Wells and Moreno are probobly no-brainers there.

What are Ian Johnson's measurables?

Yeah that flu is going around big time.

 

[Goober Man]

Me neither, in the 2nd would be good. He'd be better value there than McCoy at 31 , IMO. Wells and Moreno are probobly no-brainers there.

What are Ian Johnson's measurables?

Yeah that flu is going around big time.

From what I know Ian Johnson is 5'11 and weighs 226lbs, 31 inch vert(inch lower than Brown's) 26 reps and a 4.46 40.

I guess he's not rated that highly because he didn't have a good senior year. Here's a link of his stats..hopefully it will have a scouting report later http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/Ian-Johnson.php

 

[Shogun]

Whenever I watched Ian Johnson, I would never think "that's an NFL starter". He has good vision, but was on the small side, went down easily and did not play nearly as fast as his Combine 40. He performed well in the Combine (26 reps on bench, 4.4 40 with weight gain) to greatly improve his stock, though. He's going to get a lot of looks now.

The Derrick Williams flu excuse doesn't sit well with me.

 

[WildBB]

From what I know Ian Johnson is 5'11 and weighs 226lbs, 31 inch vert(inch lower than Brown's) 26 reps and a 4.46 40.

I guess he's not rated that highly because he didn't have a good senior year. Here's a link of his stats..hopefully it will have a scouting report later http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/Ian-Johnson.php

Wow....did you see the stats for 06! This could be the diamond in the rough for us!

He has good size and a 5.7 ypc career avg. That ain't too shabby. He must have been fighting some injuries the last two years.

He has good size and size/speed.

 

[Goober Man]

Whenever I watched Ian Johnson, I would never think "that's an NFL starter". He has good vision, but was on the small side, went down easily and did not play nearly as fast as his Combine 40. He performed well in the Combine (26 reps on bench, 4.4 40 with weight gain) to greatly improve his stock, though. He's going to get a lot of looks now.

The Derrick Williams flu excuse doesn't sit well with me.

I thought that too when I watched Ian Johnson. But if we are looking at him as a change of pace back (ala JJ's replacement) I think he would be worth a look. Maybe the added weight/strength will possibly help him not go down as easy.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

before th combine started , i heard Kiper saying he thought Matthews had moved into the top 25 of the draft. Laurinitis didn't surprise me at all. I have said he's been overrated for 2 years now. Freeman looked surprisingly agile.He seemed to play a little stiff at OSU. I hope we can get McGrath in round 3. If hes' there, i wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Johnson as our pick at 31. He's the type of guy that Graves likes to draft. Guys that have fallen for one reason or another that nobody seems to know why. Campbell, Branch, Watson ,Pope,and Patrick come to mind.

 

[earthsci]

If hes' there, i wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Johnson as our pick at 31. He's the type of guy that Graves likes to draft. Guys that have fallen for one reason or another that nobody seems to know why. Campbell, Branch, Watson ,Pope,and Patrick come to mind.

d. Nobody's got much good to say about a player who apparently majored in taking plays off at Georgia Tech, defensive end Michael Johnson.

Link

Granted, Peter King is wrong a lot, but drafting 31 is great if you hit a home run. If you miss, your next pick is late in round 2.

 

[WildBB]

before th combine started , i heard Kiper saying he thought Matthews had moved into the top 25 of the draft. Laurinitis didn't surprise me at all. I have said he's been overrated for 2 years now. Freeman looked surprisingly agile.He seemed to play a little stiff at OSU. I hope we can get McGrath in round 3. If hes' there, i wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Johnson as our pick at 31. He's the type of guy that Graves likes to draft. Guys that have fallen for one reason or another that nobody seems to know why. Campbell, Branch, Watson ,Pope,and Patrick come to mind.

It would be interesting to see if the Cardinals put Laurintis in their top 31.

Michael Johnson would scare the crap out of me in the 1st. I think he would get pushed around too easy. And he won't find it easy coming around the edge.

 

[az jam]

d. Nobody's got much good to say about a player who apparently majored in taking plays off at Georgia Tech, defensive end Michael Johnson.

Mike Mayock on the NFL Network was also very critical of Michael Johnson. Basically said "Buyer Beware". I really hope the Cards don't take him.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Whomever was pimping Lawrence Sidbury was right on the mark. He is really making a showing in the combine from what I just read. He was a top performer in :

40-yard dash | Vertical jump | Broad jump | 20-yard shuttle

 

[Goober Man]

before th combine started , i heard Kiper saying he thought Matthews had moved into the top 25 of the draft. Laurinitis didn't surprise me at all. I have said he's been overrated for 2 years now. Freeman looked surprisingly agile.He seemed to play a little stiff at OSU. I hope we can get McGrath in round 3. If hes' there, i wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Johnson as our pick at 31. He's the type of guy that Graves likes to draft. Guys that have fallen for one reason or another that nobody seems to know why. Campbell, Branch, Watson ,Pope,and Patrick come to mind.

I don't think we'll draft Micheal Johnson at 31, I think he'll go into the 2nd round just too much bad tape on him (as Maylock says). As for the reasons the guys you listed that fell in the draft. Campbell (he fell because of his less than stellar senior year) Branch (He fell because of a bad pro day...cried? I think) Watson (he fell because of work ethic issue..was a human blob before he got his act together in AZ) Pope (fell because he wasn't a atleast decent run blocker and mental mistakes) Patrick (fell because of his hamstring injury and he was from a small school).

I don't like Kiper...at all...I like Maylock a bit more than him.

 

[Brewster10]

Im on the English, Mathews, Barwin bandwagon.. any of those guys at 31 would make me happy

 

[joeshmo]

He's the type of guy that Graves likes to draft. Guys that have fallen for one reason or another that nobody seems to know why. Campbell, Branch, Watson ,Pope,and Patrick come to mind.

I think he is the complete opposite actually. Michael Johnson never amount to anything in the NFL. Quetin Moses part two. How can guy with his physical skill set be a pass rush specialist his first three seasons and not get double digit sacks in any of those years. How can a guy with his skill set become a starter his last year and put up only 7 sacks. Well there are many reasons and it really does show when you watch him play. He is a pansy, hates contact, and more finesse then Simieon Rice every was. Motor the likes of Wendall Bryant. Makes one play and takes the next 30 off. Once a OT or even a TE gets his hands on him he shuts down. Zero intensity and zero committment to get any better. He would be completely taken off my board. The guy for all of his abilities is a complete non factor in any game he played in college.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Whomever was pimping Lawrence Sidbury was right on the mark. He is really making a showing in the combine from what I just read. He was a top performer in :

40-yard dash | Vertical jump | Broad jump | 20-yard shuttle

Here is something else on Sidbury:

Sidbury is a defensive end/linebacker who played his college ball at Richmond, who won the FCS National Championship this past season. Lombardi said Sidbury's tremendous tape (11 1/2 sacks) was backed up by his play in the Senior Bowl and at the East-West Shrine game. An impressive workout will go a long way to getting him high up in the draft.

The strangest note we've seen on this guy? He apparently had written an computer program at school that tracked defensive tendencies of the teams they played.

 

[WildBB]

I think he is the complete opposite actually. Michael Johnson never amount to anything in the NFL. Quetin Moses part two. How can guy with his physical skill set be a pass rush specialist his first three seasons and not get double digit sacks in any of those years. How can a guy with his skill set become a starter his last year and put up only 7 sacks. Well there are many reasons and it really does show when you watch him play. He is a pansy, hates contact, and more finesse then Simieon Rice every was. Motor the likes of Wendall Bryant. Makes one play and takes the next 30 off. Once a OT or even a TE gets his hands on him he shuts down. Zero intensity and zero committment to get any better. He would be completely taken off my board. The guy for all of his abilities is a complete non factor in any game he played in college.

But how do you really feel Joe?!

 

[SuperSpck]

Here is something else on Sidbury:

Oh that's all kinds of appealing... if he's smart and loves to break down football tendencies... dang.

 

[Goober Man]

Oh that's all kinds of appealing... if he's smart and loves to break down football tendencies... dang.

He certainly does have good athletic numbers but I can't seem to find out how many reps he did.

 

[Stout]

The Derrick Williams flu excuse doesn't sit well with me.

Why not? It's the exact same situation as with Shady McCoy, but he ran where McCoy didn't. I agree that he cost himself money with the poor performance, but it is on record that neither agents wanted their guys to run because of the flu. One didn't, and the other one ran slow. So, why the suspicion? It'll all shake out at the pro day.