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Lets not get carried away. It was great that the US managed to get a point vs England, but it was on the "Hand of Clod" and a heroic effort from Tim Howard. The US would be elucky to get points vs Germany. They are looking pretty damn strong right about now.
Give over. I'm not saying the US deserved a win but they certainly did enough for a point. How many actual chances did England have again? The US did exactly what we thought they would, sit back and let England come then deal with it when needed.

We hit the post. Altidore had the best chance of the first half when he should have slammed his header in. Donovan had a shot not far off and ***** also should have done better with his header.

Howard had two shots that were good chances for England.
 

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As for Germany, they looked bloody great. What a fun game to watch (provided you don't dislike Germany I suppose). I really don;t want them in the 2nd round. Must beat Slovenia now.
 

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I know the Aussies are a weak team, and they were down a player, but Germany looked much better than England, and I wouldn't want the US to have to play them in the knock out rounds.
 

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I know the Aussies are a weak team, and they were down a player, but Germany looked much better than England, and I wouldn't want the US to have to play them in the knock out rounds.

Exactly..... Getting the 1 seed is super important. Bradley should be able to understand that.
 
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Expert, not.

Is this team so much better than the 2002 team? We held them 1-0, and it should have at least been 1-1 had Frings not got away with a blatant hand ball.

The US can compete with anyone on their best day, Germany included.
 

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Is this team so much better than the 2002 team? We held them 1-0, and it should have at least been 1-1 had Frings not got away with a blatant hand ball.

The US can compete with anyone on their best day, Germany included.

But just in case, let's try to win our group so we can face Serbia or Ghana. :p
 

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Looking forward to tomorrow.

I am gonna get zero sleep this month. I get off work at 4AM sleep for 2 hours or so watch the 6:30 AM game then the 9 AM game then a couple hour nap and then the afternoon game then a couple hours more nap before work. Good thing I have a lot of sick days on the books.

I am hoping to watch every game, all the group game 3's will have to be one on the big screen and one on the 'Net (wish I had picture in picture).

i have to do the 12.30 game at lunch at work then i will have my iphone on to watch the 3.30 kick then the world is my lobster for the 7.30 ;)

In Spain next week when England play there last game so that should be fun, then off for the last two weeks of the WC.
 
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But just in case, let's try to win our group so we can face Serbia or Ghana. :p

Of course the team is going to try to win the group but are you honestly going to be disappointed if we finish second? All that matters to me(and I bet the team too) is getting to the knockout stages, at that point anything can happen(who here honestly thought we could beat Spain last year?). It is not something totally under control of the group, if England and us both win our last 2 games and they score just 1 more goal than us(and allow the same amount) they win the group, nothing we should fret about and obviously nothing Bradley can control or change.
 

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Give over. I'm not saying the US deserved a win but they certainly did enough for a point. How many actual chances did England have again?

Almost twice as much as US. (Eng-15, US-8)



Howard had two shots that were good chances for England.
Try 7, only 2 for England.

Im not trying to say the US' draw was unimpressive. They managed to hold one of the most talented teams to only one goal despite so many shots/shots on goal. If they're going to do some damage in the next round, its going to take Tim Howard replicating saturday's efforts, and a hell of a lot better showing by the offense.
 

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I thought it was kinda ironic a Mexican referee giving a card for diving when it's as much a part of Mexican soccer as anything else.

Flopping is no much a part of Mexican soccer (league or NT) as it is for the US.

Put the agenda away.
 
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Almost twice as much as US. (Eng-15, US-8)

Not sure where you are getting your numbers...

England had 6 shots on goal to the US' 4, if thats twice as much it must be new math.

Possesion was 57% to 43%, with the second half being more even.
 

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Not sure where you are getting your numbers...

England had 6 shots on goal to the US' 4, if thats twice as much it must be new math.

Possesion was 57% to 43%, with the second half being more even.

He said shots, not shots on goal. Keep up with us, Zeno. Please.

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No one said anything about possession.
 
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He said shots, not shots on goal. Keep up with us, Zeno. Please.

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No one said anything about possession.

Actually he said,
Howard had two shots that were good chances for England.

A shot that doesn't force a save isn't a good chance.

If you want to go strictly on shots it was England 18 US 12 (ESPN & SI.com both) again not even close to double.
 

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geez why is there so much bickering? The US were the more impressive team? why, because they were expected to lose by 2 goals by most accounts. and they actually exploited some weaknesses of the english that they needed to. They shutdown rooney, outside of the first 5 mins lampard and gerrard were lackluster on the offensive end, and tim howard wasn't forced to make incredible saves. I would venture to say his stops were solid by his account not necessarily spectacular... and he was the only player in that game for either side that looked stable from the get-go. he was solid and the play he took a shot in the chest was 50/50...not necessarily spectacular. Were the US had the struggle was keeping possession in the midfield in the second half and lackluster play from findley/altidore(although jozy was unlucky not to score a goal).

there are some changes that need to be made. I thought bradley had a hell of a game. clark needs to go, findley needs to go...he is a poor man's charlie davies. that is a good idea by bradley to regain some of that confed cup magic, but he just doesn't have the ball skills. I would still think about moving dempsey up and bringing holden on the right side with landon on the left. it might help with possession and getting quality service into the box with a pure goal scorer in dempsey. either that or make this change after 45 so dempsey doesn't look gassed at the end.

All in all, sloppy, rubbish, or lucky, whatever you wanna call it, i'll take it. The USA keep getting results against teams that they shouldn't. so you can hate or say the USA was fortunate, that is fine by me. But they are getting better as time goes on. now we will see how they handle the role of being the favorite. this will be a first.
 
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Is this team so much better than the 2002 team? We held them 1-0, and it should have at least been 1-1 had Frings not got away with a blatant hand ball.

The US can compete with anyone on their best day, Germany included.

1. Yes they are a lot better. The team in 2002 only played well in the game they lost, the final.

2. It doesn't matter if it is 1-0 or 5-0. You lost that is the bottom line and you will lose again if you meet Germany in the knockout rounds.
 

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I know the Aussies are a weak team, and they were down a player, but Germany looked much better than England, and I wouldn't want the US to have to play them in the knock out rounds.

Germany was just way superior. Aussies are known as a physical tough team that defends as hard as anyone which made it even more impressive how Germany tore apart their defense with creative and beautiful passing.
 

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Germany was just way superior. Aussies are known as a physical tough team that defends as hard as anyone which made it even more impressive how Germany tore apart their defense with creative and beautiful passing.
I was not impressed with the aussie D in the USA friendly. Rob Findley alone should have had a hat trick in that game. If buddle would have got another shot off he surely would have too. they were lucky that the USA only scored 3 in that game...they have some issues.
 
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Almost twice as much as US. (Eng-15, US-8)




Try 7, only 2 for England.

Im not trying to say the US' draw was unimpressive. They managed to hold one of the most talented teams to only one goal despite so many shots/shots on goal. If they're going to do some damage in the next round, its going to take Tim Howard replicating saturday's efforts, and a hell of a lot better showing by the offense.
How ever you wanna draw it up. when you come down to legit scoring chances I'd say it was pretty close to even. jozy had the 2 best opportunities for the USA at point blank range. england had 2 point blank opportunities finished one and kicked the other right into howard's sore core. maybe that guy just wanted to break howard's ribs, because he sure as heck wasn't trying to put the ball in the net.

I heard many english fans before the game knocking the USA squad saying that their best players wouldn't crack the 23 man english roster. Saying that the reality of it is the best american players play for the likes of fulham while ours run manU and chelsea. And that the USA will have no answer for the world's best striker. So given all of this...i'm happy with the result.
 

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There is no reason to worry about germany or anyone else right now if you are the USA. right now you have to prove you can take care of business. It's one thing to man up and do the unexpected. it's another thing to know you are better and match the intensity of what slovenia will be coming with on friday. Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet....

To me germany was impressive...obviously the best offensive showing thus far. But it shouldn't come as a surprise. They often open up things in this fashion and play very well in the group against inferior teams. clearly again this year they have what they typically have always had. we'll see what happens when they get into the knockout stages.
 

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Of course the team is going to try to win the group but are you honestly going to be disappointed if we finish second? All that matters to me(and I bet the team too) is getting to the knockout stages, at that point anything can happen(who here honestly thought we could beat Spain last year?). It is not something totally under control of the group, if England and us both win our last 2 games and they score just 1 more goal than us(and allow the same amount) they win the group, nothing we should fret about and obviously nothing Bradley can control or change.

Who said anything about being disappointed? What are you talking about?

I would prefer NOT facing Germany in the round of 16 if we get there. I don't know why you're so upset by that. And that was my opinion before the match today.

Oh, and my post you quoted was a joke. You need to chill out.
 

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I thought it was kinda ironic a Mexican referee giving a card for diving when it's as much a part of Mexican soccer as anything else.
lol, diving in soccer is just like flopping in the NBA. every team has a player(s) that will do it from time to time to work the system.
 

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