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If the Diamondbacks could get Saunders and another of their prospects, such as Mike Napoli, for Tracy, that might not be such a bad deal. Rumor that seems to continually make rounds is Tracy for Saunders and MacPherson, with Dallas ultimately being packaged in a possible deal for Teixeria.
 
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If the Diamondbacks could get Saunders and another of their prospects, such as Mike Napoli, for Tracy, that might not be such a bad deal. Rumor that seems to continually make rounds is Tracy for Saunders and MacPherson, with Dallas ultimately being packaged in a possible deal for Teixeria.

Whoa! Teixeria is a pipe dream at this point but would be unreal if it were to develop. He's one of the best defensive 1B in the game and would upgrade our defense immediately. As I said before, I've read several Teixeria trade rumors and am surprised by them. Very weird that they would trade a player of his caliber. Just read a rumor saying they would be open to trading Teixeria if he was packaged for a group of good young players-

Are the Rangers seriously considering trading Mark Teixeira? That would not make any sense to me, seeing as how he is the cornerstone to the franchise. Also, who are some free agent pitchers that are in the price range of the Rangers that they might take a look at during the offseason?
-- Nick B., Marysville, Mich.
I don't think the Rangers will deal Teixeira unless they make a blockbuster trade in which they get three or four good young players in return. I just don't see that happening, but it is a possibility.

http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/NASApp...t_id=1720629&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex
 

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Arizona defintely has the young players that Texas is looking for.

The question is who they would want. Would you include CoJack (I would say yes, obviously)? Owings or Nippert? Young?

His contract is up after this season and his agent is............ you guessed it, Scott Boras. If we were to trade for him, I owuld also want to extend him. We seem to have no problem dealing with Boras but he's still a pain in the..... Also, I'm not sure how high byrnes would be on extending Teixeria.

Mark Teixeira 3b
2 years/$15.4M (2006-07), plus incentives

  • re-signed 1/06
  • 06:$6.4M, 07:$9M
  • may earn $0.275M annually in award bonuses
    • $0.1M for AL MVP
    • $50,000 each for World Series MVP & All-Star selection
    • $25,000 each for Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, LCS MVP
  • 4 years/$9.5M (2002-05)
    • $4.5M signing bonus (paid over 3 years)
    • 02:$0.25M, 03:$0.75M, 04:$1.5M, 05:$2.5M
  • drafted 2001 (1-5), signed major league contract 8/01
  • agent: Scott Boras
  • ML service: 3.000
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/texas-rangers.html
 

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I say trade for pitching, also keep what little pitching prospects we have. Nippert and Owings wil eventually end up our 4 & 5 starters, we just need to get a solid 2 and maybe 3 to add to them and Webb. Hernandez and Davis aren't getting any younger.

As for Texiera, not only will he cost an arm and leg with good young players he will be asking for Lee and Soriano type deals when he becomes a FA.
 

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The Red Sox, Mariners and Giants have discussed a deal that would send Manny Ramirez to Seattle, Richie Sexson to San Francisco and J.J. Putz to Boston, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

The Red Sox would also receive Adam Jones and Noah Lowry could go to Seattle in one permutation.
 

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The question is who they would want. Would you include CoJack (I would say yes, obviously)? Owings or Nippert? Young?

His contract is up after this season and his agent is............ you guessed it, Scott Boras. If we were to trade for him, I owuld also want to extend him. We seem to have no problem dealing with Boras but he's still a pain in the..... Also, I'm not sure how high byrnes would be on extending Teixeria.


I would want to extend him too. But I would kill to have something like CoJack, Owings and Nippert for Tex. I'd even be willing to add in Hairston and others...

It'd be about time we get an established power bat who can actually play the field.
 

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I'd love to have Teixiera as well, and would be OK w/ the Dbacks perhaps doing a lopsided deal to land him (but he would have to be extended for a reasonable rate, obviously). Teixiera would give the Dbacks a nice clean up hitter who doesn't have a terrible average (i.e. Sexson and Glaus), and can actually play defense. The guy has won back to back Gold Gloves, and 2 Silver Slugger awards.

He would also alleviate the problem of having 2 corner infielders who are nearly identical as far as skill sets go. Oh and, he's only 26. Per 162 games, this guy hits .282 and 37HRs, and thats including his first season which obviously pulled his numbers down a bit.

Nippert, Owings, Hairston, CoJack for him? I think you'd have to add in one more nice piece from the D'backs to get the Rangers to bite, though I'm not sure who.
 

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In my perfect post-season conclusion, here's how I see things shaking out.

-- Chad Tracy to the Angels for Joe Saunders.

I think Saunders is going to be a very strong #2 starter when it's all said and done, who already has shown he's capable of being a solid starter in the Bigs. In this rotation, Saunders could step in as the #4 or #5 for next year, and grow around veteran leaders such as Livan Hernandez and Doug Davis.

-- Micah Owings, Dustin Nippert and Carlos Gonzalez for Mark Teixeira

This gives Texas three of Arizona's top prospects, two of whom will make their rotation much better and both of whom could be starters for the Rangers next year. Gonzalez is a 5 star guy, whose worst quality is the fact that he's stuck behind Quentin, Young and Upton on Arizona's long term plans at OF.

This deal helps the Rangers and gives Arizona a bonafide middle of the lineup hitter, who's capable of going for 40 per, and as previously mentioned, plays Gold Glove defense and has a good OBP, which makes him a step above Sexson and Glaus, their last two attempted middle of the lineup guys.


I know it's a pipe dream, but hey, it's one worth looking at right?
 

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^ I like it, but who plays 3B for the Dbacks then? You move Tiexiera there? CoJack can barely handle first, Im sure he'd be a nightmare at 3rd. And, I do like the idea of the Dbacks holding onto Upton, Gonzalez, Quentin and Young for now, and trying to figure out which guy they like the least.

I'd rather keep Gonzalez, and send CoJack to Texas, and since obviously thats a downgrade, send another guy. Maybe Chris Snyder? Then sign a Kelly Stinnett type veteran catcher to platoon w/ Montero.
 

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^ I like it, but who plays 3B for the Dbacks then? You move Tiexiera there? CoJack can barely handle first, Im sure he'd be a nightmare at 3rd. And, I do like the idea of the Dbacks holding onto Upton, Gonzalez, Quentin and Young for now, and trying to figure out which guy they like the least.

I'd rather keep Gonzalez, and send CoJack to Texas, and since obviously thats a downgrade, send another guy. Maybe Chris Snyder? Then sign a Kelly Stinnett type veteran catcher to platoon w/ Montero.

Callaspo would play 3rd. He can play 2B as well but he would be just fine defensively at 3rd and has a good bat. We would have to throw in a prospect with the caliber of Gonzalez. Snyder,Owings and Nippert wouldn't work and neither would CoJack/Owings/Nippert. I agree that it would be tough to part with Gonzalez, who is widely compared to Carlos Beltran, but it's hard to turn down a proven and legit all star/gold glover that would immediatley help this team in nearly all aspects. I doubt to the highest degree that Byrnes would part with Gonzalez, just doesn't seem like something he would do.

The other aspect of this trade- we have to look at is his contract and his agent. Say we were to trade Gonzalez/Owings/Nippert (3 of our top 5-10 prospects and some of the best in baseball) for Teixeira, whose contract expires after the 2007 season, and he bolts. Too risky if your asking me. What doesn't help matters is the fact that his agent is Scott Boras. If we were to deal for him I would hope Byrnes would find a way to extend him. Would be most logical, especially at the cost of those valuable prospects
 
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Brian Barden can also play 3b. He is great defensively and can hit for average at the plate.
 

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^ I like it, but who plays 3B for the Dbacks then? You move Tiexiera there? CoJack can barely handle first, Im sure he'd be a nightmare at 3rd.

Teixeria started his career at 3rd. I think, at worst, he's adequate at the position, and in terms of glovework, he's a definite upgrade over Hands Of Stone (Tracy). If they did trade for him, I'd assume it would be to move him to third, but then again I've been wrong before.

And, I do like the idea of the Dbacks holding onto Upton, Gonzalez, Quentin and Young for now, and trying to figure out which guy they like the least.

I like your mindset here, but at the same time, I also think prospects are most tradable while there's a sense of unknown. Once word gets out that one of these four is the odd man out, and the one Arizona least prefers, would his value still be the same?

Perfect example of this is Scott Hairston.

Also, if Texas gets a catcher from Arizona, I'm almost certain they'd ask for Montero.
 

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^I know what you are saying about the OF who is the odd man out having his value decreased, I guess I wasn't entirely clear (or really very realistic). I was hoping the Dbacks could wait a bit until they felt like they knew internally who the odd man out was, w/ out that really being apparent publicly. I suppose thats nearly impossible though, you are right that those guys value is probably at a peak when they are all "potential" like they are now.
 
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According to the Dallas Morning News, Ironic the news comes in the afternoon, Mulder has been offered a contract from the Texas Rangers.
 

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Kansas City's offer to Miguel Batista reportedly remains on the table, but Royals officials indicated they now believe he has bigger offers from other teams and is likely to sign elsewhere.
Even in this market, we find it hard to believe Batista is going to do better than the three-year, $24 million contract the Royals reportedly proposed. The Cardinals and Mariners were believed to be the other two finalists for the right-hander's services.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&filter_teams=N&id=1719
 

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