On record..who will be Jets starting QB by years end?

[desertdawg]

I think it's Sanchez, unless he gets traded before the season starts.

 

[Big Deal]

Sanchez, unless injury.

 

[Duckjake]

Kevin Kolb.

Cards trade Kolb to Jets for Tebow during the bye week. Cards win last 9 games of the season, every one with a late 4th quarter rally led by Skelator or Tebow. First NFL team to win 10 games in a season scoring less than 14 ppg.

43 ASFNers go insane when news of the trade is made public but are released from the mental ward after Cards 6th consecutive last second win brings them back off the ledge.

 

[THESMEL]

Matt Leinart, shows why he is better than Sanchez and Palmer. when healthy

 

[JAB]

I think it's Sanchez, unless he gets traded before the season starts.

Better question is why they even traded for him? I don't see this being a win situation no matter how hard I try. But to answer your question it will be Sanchez.

 

[PDXChris]

Matt Leinart, shows why he is better than Sanchez and Palmer. when healthy

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[john h]

I think it's Sanchez, unless he gets traded before the season starts.

I also think Sanchez but Tebow will see some playing time. They can use him in some wildcat formations to throw off the defense on occasion. Tebow will likely be used when they are inside the 5 yd line due to him excellent running ability. He is also not that bad on short throws. He is one big dude weighing in at around 250 lbs and with speed and ability to maneuver. If Sanchez performs poorly after 3-4 games and the Jets lose you can be sure the crowd will start chanting for Tebow. He is no trouble maker and will do whatever is best for his team and to win. I wish the good good luck. I think Tebow will be in the NFL a lot longer than most people expect and there is no reason he cannot develop into a decent passer. Yes, he was a poor passer last year except when it really counted. Did he win all those games on luck? I do not know but I am beginning to think not.

 

[john h]

Matt Leinart, shows why he is better than Sanchez and Palmer. when healthy

Who is Matt Leinart? Is he related to Jake The Snake?

 

[john h]

Better question is why they even traded for him? I don't see this being a win situation no matter how hard I try. But to answer your question it with will be Sanchez.

At worst he can become a good RB. He is going to regularly get you 3 yds down near the goal line. He is a big fast man. In spite of all the criticism coming his way he took his team to the playoffs and won one game in the playoffs. He may have looked ugly doing it but until someone proves he cannot he is the little red train that could do it.

 

[Pariah]

I think Tebow will fairly consistently get 25% of the snaps for the Jets.

 

[JAB]

At worst he can become a good RB. He is going to regularly get you 3 yds down near the goal line. He is a big fast man. In spite of all the criticism coming his way he took his team to the playoffs and won one game in the playoffs. He may have looked ugly doing it but until someone proves he cannot he is the little red train that could do it.

At worst they end up with no quarterbacks because the whole situation destroys Sanchez and Tim Tebow isn't a good quarterback and probably never will be. I don't buy into the theory that he proved anything that Skelton didn't prove. Each quarterback had to rely extensively on other aspects of the team to even have the opportunity to win those games.

Yes, every quarterback needs help from their team but I really don't see how people can overvalue what they did by completely undervaluing what the other players on their team's did to put them in a position to win. If we were to put this into percentages It would be at worst, 85% team 15% quarterback. I personally don't see messing with my supposed franchise quarterback for that.

Matt Leinart, shows why he is better than Sanchez and Palmer. when healthy

I'm still under the perception that Matt Leinart doesn't even have an employer at this time? Even if he............ nevermind.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Tebow

 

[gamebird98]

Ken O'Brien

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Tebow!

 

[desertdawg]

I think Tebow will see some time during games like Pariah mentioned, but I don't think he will get the start unless Sanchez is hurt. NFL kinda figured out Tebow's game last year, contain him like Vick, and don't worry about his arm until the fourth quarter. I'd take Sanchez over Tebow anyday but if they lose a couple close ones, fans are fickle and NY does it better than anyone.

 

[Darkside]

I think it's going to be Sanchez. While the move to acquire Tebow seemed totally strange to me at first I think it was a good move. I think Tebow has limited QB ability, but I think he can unify a locker-room like no-one else.

Jets' main problem last year wasn't a lack of talent or bad game-planning, it's that Ryan didn't have any control over that locker room. It spiraled out of control until it started leaking unto the field (look at the late-season total collapse). I think back to when Jordan played basketball and to some extent Rodman: Phil Jackson brought in dudes who lacked talent in basketball but were influences on the bench for those players when things got tough for them personally. Jackson didn't have to divert his attention away from the game to focus on one player, because he already had a psychologist and psychiatrist on the bench doing it for him. I think this is the same thing.

Sanchez has way more skills than Tebow, but he's mentally weak compared to Tebow. Mentally Sanchez is a freaking marshmallow. In my opinion Sanchez can learn a lot from Tebow in the areas he's weakest in. Tebow's completion % was lower than 50% and yet he thought he was going to win every freaking game. That is like the Gibraltar of mental toughness. Think back a week or two to the story of Dawkins letting Tebow lay hands on his back for healing. I'm not a religious guy by any means, but if a dude like Dawkins, who's been in this league forever, will let a youngster like Tebow try and fix him that tells you something. It says alot. Think back again to the stupid haircut the vets gave him to put him in his place. To show him this is the big-boys league, this is the NFL, carry our bags and take your haircut and get us Gatorade chump. He went out and gave an interview in that stupid haircut. That unifies a team. Tells some guy who drops a pass or misses a block, hey, at least you're starting, look what I'm doing fetching 'rade and walking around like this and I still think I'm taking us to the playoffs when I get my shot.

This had more to do with Sanchez. He'll either mature mentally and get tough or he'll disappear like Matt Leinart. I'll tell you one thing that's already disheartening is that Sanchez didn't make any real statements in response to the Tebow press conference. All he gave was a couple little soundbites, at most. That's totally weak. And Tebow knows it because he had to go back on the air and basically backstep and say, basically, "I don't know if I'll ever start, Mark is the guy, he's a great guy, I've met him before and he's really swell." Shouldn't have to do that. That's Tebow's recognition that Mark is a total whimp by NFL standards. All Sanchez had to do was go out in public until someone asked him a question, which would be roughly about 30 seconds upon being recognized, and he should have simply said it was a great move, that Tebow would push him with his great attitude and perseverance and work ethic and everything else. Above all he should have said, generally, that he thinks it sucks if they plan on bringing him in after I've driven them down the field 98 yards to score the TD. I want to score TD's. I want to gain yards. I want to make completions. I think the best chance we have to win is with me behind center throwing the ball, not running some college offense. Obviously he wouldn't say it that way (I would, because I'm the opposite of savvy), but he needed to say it and he didn't. Tebow then had to backtrack on himself for upstaging the starter, which in my opinion wasn't his fault at all.

Apologies for the length but I actually think the Jets saga is interesting. Sanchise can't even step up mano y mano against the backup. When does that happen? It's rare. Even Kolb, whom a lot of you think sucks, even he stood up to the Skelton talk and said I expect to start and lead the team and I understand why people doubt me and I thank Skelton for his contributions while I was out hurt. That isn't verbatim obviously. But that's what you say.

I still think Sanchez will start, but he needs to grow a pair and stop posing for magazines.

 

[Jetstream Green]

neither of them, Sanchez will get hurt, Tebow through interceptions will find the bench and some guy will be their starting QB...at this moment, I'm 95% sure I do not know who this some guy is lol

 

[desertdawg]

I think it's going to be Sanchez. While the move to acquire Tebow seemed totally strange to me at first I think it was a good move. I think Tebow has limited QB ability, but I think he can unify a locker-room like no-one else.

Jets' main problem last year wasn't a lack of talent or bad game-planning, it's that Ryan didn't have any control over that locker room. It spiraled out of control until it started leaking unto the field (look at the late-season total collapse). I think back to when Jordan played basketball and to some extent Rodman: Phil Jackson brought in dudes who lacked talent in basketball but were influences on the bench for those players when things got tough for them personally. Jackson didn't have to divert his attention away from the game to focus on one player, because he already had a psychologist and psychiatrist on the bench doing it for him. I think this is the same thing.

Sanchez has way more skills than Tebow, but he's mentally weak compared to Tebow. Mentally Sanchez is a freaking marshmallow. In my opinion Sanchez can learn a lot from Tebow in the areas he's weakest in. Tebow's completion % was lower than 50% and yet he thought he was going to win every freaking game. That is like the Gibraltar of mental toughness. Think back a week or two to the story of Dawkins letting Tebow lay hands on his back for healing. I'm not a religious guy by any means, but if a dude like Dawkins, who's been in this league forever, will let a youngster like Tebow try and fix him that tells you something. It says alot. Think back again to the stupid haircut the vets gave him to put him in his place. To show him this is the big-boys league, this is the NFL, carry our bags and take your haircut and get us Gatorade chump. He went out and gave an interview in that stupid haircut. That unifies a team. Tells some guy who drops a pass or misses a block, hey, at least you're starting, look what I'm doing fetching 'rade and walking around like this and I still think I'm taking us to the playoffs when I get my shot.

This had more to do with Sanchez. He'll either mature mentally and get tough or he'll disappear like Matt Leinart. I'll tell you one thing that's already disheartening is that Sanchez didn't make any real statements in response to the Tebow press conference. All he gave was a couple little soundbites, at most. That's totally weak. And Tebow knows it because he had to go back on the air and basically backstep and say, basically, "I don't know if I'll ever start, Mark is the guy, he's a great guy, I've met him before and he's really swell." Shouldn't have to do that. That's Tebow's recognition that Mark is a total whimp by NFL standards. All Sanchez had to do was go out in public until someone asked him a question, which would be roughly about 30 seconds upon being recognized, and he should have simply said it was a great move, that Tebow would push him with his great attitude and perseverance and work ethic and everything else. Above all he should have said, generally, that he thinks it sucks if they plan on bringing him in after I've driven them down the field 98 yards to score the TD. I want to score TD's. I want to gain yards. I want to make completions. I think the best chance we have to win is with me behind center throwing the ball, not running some college offense. Obviously he wouldn't say it that way (I would, because I'm the opposite of savvy), but he needed to say it and he didn't. Tebow then had to backtrack on himself for upstaging the starter, which in my opinion wasn't his fault at all.

Apologies for the length but I actually think the Jets saga is interesting. Sanchise can't even step up mano y mano against the backup. When does that happen? It's rare. Even Kolb, whom a lot of you think sucks, even he stood up to the Skelton talk and said I expect to start and lead the team and I understand why people doubt me and I thank Skelton for his contributions while I was out hurt. That isn't verbatim obviously. But that's what you say.

I still think Sanchez will start, but he needs to grow a pair and stop posing for magazines.

In today's day and age, I'd play it like Sanchez all day. His play will dictate what happens on the feild, even if Tebow is successful when he gets time during the game. Looking for a soundbite to say you are down? Not me, catch me at the training facility, knocking down nay sayers like reps on the bench press. I aint Sanchez, homie has shown skills, won some important games, dignity does come with silence, media is a web I wouldn't want to be caught in right now. Every word dissected and re-played. I'll work on my craft, keep my job. Do some interviews when I have too. He aint all that, this might just be the foot fetishis's's dumbest mistake ever.

 

[Darkside]

In today's day and age, I'd play it like Sanchez all day. His play will dictate what happens on the feild, even if Tebow is successful when he gets time during the game. Looking for a soundbite to say you are down? Not me, catch me at the training facility, knocking down nay sayers like reps on the bench press. I aint Sanchez, homie has shown skills, won some important games, dignity does come with silence, media is a web I wouldn't want to be caught in right now. Every word dissected and re-played. I'll work on my craft, keep my job. Do some interviews when I have too. He aint all that, this might just be the foot fetishis's's dumbest mistake ever.

I disagree, although I think we both agree Sanchez is a much better QB with much more talent. Tebow took over Kyle Orton's job with a much lower completion percentage and after looking like total crap in training camp for the Broncos. He took that job because Kyle Orton basically kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to offend all the Tebow-maniacs. Sure, Orton started last year very poorly (after leaving in 2010 with an injury and being replaced by Tebow) but his completion %age was still a good 10 points higher than Tebows and even his wasn't that good (something like 58%). I think at some point you have to stand up for your pride, your job, and your basic sense of justice. Tebow stands up on pride all the time, with very little actual skill to show for it. Why shouldn't Sanchez do the same? I think keeping your mouth shut and trying to act dignified (since when does Sanchez act dignified?) is the wrong thing to do--that's how Tebow moves in to take dudes' jobs.

(Edit: I should add, Sanchez isn't going to beat Tebow in a dignity-race. Sometimes you have to fight for what is yours. What would Tom Brady say if Tebow were backing him up? I bet he'd give a statement saying Tebow will make a nice backup, can play some good special teams, could maybe play fullback, could maybe do all sorts of stuff, but he isn't going to be behind center.)

 

[desertdawg]

I disagree, although I think we both agree Sanchez is a much better QB with much more talent. Tebow took over Kyle Orton's job with a much lower completion percentage and after looking like total crap in training camp for the Broncos. He took that job because Kyle Orton basically kept his mouth shut because he didn't want to offend all the Tebow-maniacs. Sure, Orton started last year very poorly (after leaving in 2010 with an injury and being replaced by Tebow) but his completion %age was still a good 10 points higher than Tebows and even his wasn't that good (something like 58%). I think at some point you have to stand up for your pride, your job, and your basic sense of justice. Tebow stands up on pride all the time, with very little actual skill to show for it. Why shouldn't Sanchez do the same? I think keeping your mouth shut and trying to act dignified (since when does Sanchez act dignified?) is the wrong thing to do--that's how Tebow moves in to take dudes' jobs.

(Edit: I should add, Sanchez isn't going to beat Tebow in a dignity-race. Sometimes you have to fight for what is yours. What would Tom Brady say if Tebow were backing him up? I bet he'd give a statement saying Tebow will make a nice backup, can play some good special teams, could maybe play fullback, could maybe do all sorts of stuff, but he isn't going to be behind center.)

Sorry for the delayed response...Go Suns!!! But I don't think Sanchez can keep his job by giving Skip Baseless some air time. We just disagree, If I'm Sanchez, the only time I wanna be on ESPN is during the high lite segment or during a post game Superbowl win. He can bark all he wants (I think it's cool he aint), production speaks way louder.

 

[Darkside]

Sorry for the delayed response...Go Suns!!! But I don't think Sanchez can keep his job by giving Skip Baseless some air time. We just disagree, If I'm Sanchez, the only time I wanna be on ESPN is during the high lite segment or during a post game Superbowl win. He can bark all he wants (I think it's cool he aint), production speaks way louder.

In normal circumstances I'd agree with you; I just think Tebow is a media animal. He's like a media bully in my opinion, and I think you have to stand up to bullies. I'm all for being dignified and quiet ala Fitzgerald and letting production speak louder than words. I'm all for that, and I'm more old-school than not. It's just this one circumstance where I disagree. There's a reason Tebow went to NY instead of Jacksonville: more media coverage.

I hope you're right though, I really do.

 

[Stronso]

Sanchez.

 

[Jetstream Green]

In normal circumstances I'd agree with you; I just think Tebow is a media animal. He's like a media bully in my opinion, and I think you have to stand up to bullies. I'm all for being dignified and quiet ala Fitzgerald and letting production speak louder than words. I'm all for that, and I'm more old-school than not. It's just this one circumstance where I disagree. There's a reason Tebow went to NY instead of Jacksonville: more media coverage.

I hope you're right though, I really do.

I thought the Broncos traded him to the Jets? Tebow hardly had any say so in the matter and probably didn't enact the choices of two teams by saying "I need more media coverage". I will say this, Tebow and Sanchez seem both unable at times to read a defense which is not good especially for someone who has had more time in the league as Sanchez

 

[crisper57]

Sanchez, unless he is injured, should end the season as QB.

 

[ryanshaug]

Sanchez - as long as he actually makes some improvement in the offseason. He is capable of being a good starting QB but for some reason it just seems like the light bulb isn't fully on.