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This.

And hopefully the Ducks QB Mariota will get rattled by the crowd and play like a freshman, make some mistakes. I am not holding my breath for this though, the dude is tough, and boy can he run, its ridiculous. When he takes off, it looks like someone on punt return.


As I stated earlier, our offense just might have bigger issues wrestling with Oregon's defense, than our defense will in dealing with Oregon's offense.

Number of possessions will be a very big indicator (as it typically is of course), but, if ASU can somehow keep the number of possessions within reason, their chances will greatly improve. In order to do that, they will need to keep the ball as long as possible when they have it - which should be often as Oregon will not have many time-eating possessions... They will move the ball on ASU, and I suspect they'll do so with relative ease.
The issue will boil down to how effective is ASU's offense. Can they keep Oregon's offense off the field more than they typically are?

Oregon has a border-line great defense... It's actually one of their biggest keys to success and why their offense gets so many possessions each game!

It's hard for me to believe that the line isn't in double-figures for this game. After all, ASU did lose to a very bad Missouri team...
I would love nothing more than to see ASU pull off the miracle upset though! We should know early on how this game will go... If ASU can move the ball on Oregon's defense, ya just never know!
 

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Oregon has a border-line great defense... It's actually one of their biggest keys to success and why their offense gets so many possessions each game!

I think that remains to be seen. I think their numbers are solid against middling competition, but I have yet to seen anything close to 'great.' It's probably the best defense ASU has faced this season, but it won't be the best. Oregon is not dominating in pass defense, for certain. They're 72nd nationally, giving up 233 ypg. And, again, this is against middling competition. The best team they faced is Washington. The second best? Arizona. Then Wazzu.

As much as people have made light of ASU's schedule, it's still probably as good or better than Oregon's to date. I think a lot of those stats, especially the defensive stats, have "prove it" written all over it.

I continue to go back to the one culpability of the ASU defense, and that's run defense. They're not good at it, primarily because the line fails to maintain their gaps, and the edge rushers often get deeper than QB (a big no-no). Questions remain:

1. Can ASU defense play more disciplined at the LOS?
2. Can ASU defense apply as much pressure while remaining more disciplined?

It's the one primary key. I'm also concerned about ASU's o-line play. Oregon is just much better getting into the backfield than any team ASU's faced thus far, and IMO, the o-line has shown weaknesses against better d-lines. I thought they struggled mightily against Missouri and had ups and downs against Cal. It impacted the run game and Kelly was forced to run and throw it away a lot. Part of it is the receivers just weren't very good off the line in the first-half of the season, so they weren't getting separation at the end of their routes. They'll HAVE to improve so Kelly has options sooner post-snap.
 

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Good points all around.

82, I was impressed that the Ducks D continually kept Arizona out of the endzone, in what appeared to be a winnable game in the first half for Arizona. Say what you want about the Wildcats, but they have one hell of an offense and the Ducks shut them down.

Gad, another example of what you are talking about on our Oline was the fact that even Colorado was getting after Kelly pretty regularly and making him run. Unless we tighten up the Oline, the Ducks are going to be doing the same and moreso.
 

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I think that remains to be seen. I think their numbers are solid against middling competition, but I have yet to seen anything close to 'great.' It's probably the best defense ASU has faced this season, but it won't be the best. Oregon is not dominating in pass defense, for certain. They're 72nd nationally, giving up 233 ypg. And, again, this is against middling competition. The best team they faced is Washington. The second best? Arizona. Then Wazzu.

Good points... but, I would suspect that those passing yards are artifically inflated by the fact that most teams are forced to throw just to keep the game within 4 TD's...
 

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Good points... but, I would suspect that those passing yards are artifically inflated by the fact that most teams are forced to throw just to keep the game within 4 TD's...

That's always a possibility, but I can't really say with any confidence based on who they've played. Arizona skews their passing numbers, but most of the offenses they've faced skew their running numbers.

That's why I think others find this game compelling. We'll learn a lot about both teams ... and probably the teams they've played.
 

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Oregon has won the past 7 games. Oregon has won the past 4 games at SDS.

Time to end those streaks.

GO DEVILS!


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That's always a possibility, but I can't really say with any confidence based on who they've played. Arizona skews their passing numbers, but most of the offenses they've faced skew their running numbers.

That's why I think others find this game compelling. We'll learn a lot about both teams ... and probably the teams they've played.


If ASU were to score less than 20 points, would you be surprised? Not saying that I believe this will happen... I'm hopeful that Graham has constructed a fairly reliable offense - at least at home (the Missouri game was a flop...). However, I have a hunch Oregon's defense is better than you might believe and our offense may not be as reliable we would like to believe... Man I hope I'm wrong!!! ;)
 

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If ASU were to score less than 20 points, would you be surprised? Not saying that I believe this will happen... I'm hopeful that Graham has constructed a fairly reliable offense - at least at home (the Missouri game was a flop...). However, I have a hunch Oregon's defense is better than you might believe and our offense may not be as reliable we would like to believe... Man I hope I'm wrong!!! ;)

I would be surprised if ASU scored less than 20 points. Yes. I think the pace of the game and emotions will put ASU in position to score some points. However, I also think both factors will put the defense in a bind. I would be surprised if ASU held Oregon under 40. The only way that happens is if Oregon does something stupid, like come out and try to throw the ball 60 percent of the time.
 

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Prediction time folks, get your scores in.

My prediction is based more in my heart than in my brain. As such:

ASU 35
Oregon 31
 

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There are tickets available.

Doug Haller ‏@DougHaller ASU-Oregon ticket update: Officials are projecting a sellout. Some high-end tickets still available, upper bowl filling up.

Excellent.

Hopefully, we will also have some top recruits at the game, and we can keep the score close enough, or even pull off something surprising. We will see, game day approacheth.
 
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The new discipline should help a lot. 2 years ago ASU has a chance to win if you remove all the penalties and bonehead plays.
 

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The new discipline should help a lot. 2 years ago ASU has a chance to win if you remove all the penalties and bonehead plays.

Oregon is a better team than they were two years ago. Just sayin' ...
 

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Mainly because their defense is light-years ahead of that team from 2 years ago... :D

I am sensing a reoccurring theme here from you 82. Basically, what you are getting at is... that Oregon has a great defense.

Now, if I am misreading that in anyway, please clarify. :lol:
 

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I am sensing a reoccurring theme here from you 82. Basically, what you are getting at is... that Oregon has a great defense.

Now, if I am misreading that in anyway, please clarify. :lol:

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