OT: The 2023 NFL draft combine thread.

[Zalixar]

Looks like Anderson or trade down. May have to look at serious prospects going in top 10.

 

[Stout]

I think people are correct in saying we might be able to get a late first if we are willing to take a big chunk of his salary somehow. Otherwise we can probably get a 2nd rounder and its a good idea to move on.

Next season is lost. Kyler injured, complete overhaul of the team....in the best case scenario we win maybe 6 games next year. I think the best route is to try and cram as much of the rebuild into 2023 as possible. Trade players that we can for picks. Cut others to get out of contracts and just eat the dead money....don't spread it around. Maybe this year we dont get any big FA's...but we have the #3 pick, so we can still bring in quite a bit of talent.

Well stated. If it takes us paying part of his salary, do it.

 

[Ronin]

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[RON_IN_OC]

Report: Jalen Carter was present at teammate's fatal crash, misled police about it

Georgia defensive lineman Jalen Carter, one of the top prospects in the 2023 NFL draft, was present at the scene of a teammate's fatal car crash on January 15, drove away, and misled police about it afterward, according to a new report.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Bye bye to top 3..
Maybe even top 10.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Welcome to AZ.

 

[Ronin]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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If AZ chooses to trade down, #3 just got more valuable.

 

[Zalixar]

Welcome to AZ.

All depends on the Bears. If they swap picks with Houston they will probably take him.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

All depends on the Bears. If they swap picks with Houston they will probably take him.

Houston is taking a QB if they trade up. They aren't rolling with Mills long-term, IMO.

 

[Zalixar]

Houston is taking a QB if they trade up. They aren't rolling with Mills long-term, IMO.

Right...but the Bears will take Anderson at 2 is what I'm saying. We need any other team to trade up to 1 for us to get him, or if Bears do two trades.

 

[Ronin]

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[SoonerLou]

The timing is rough.

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[Krangodnzr]

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I'm not taking Carter at 3 if I'm the Cardinals.

Not super productive and also has reckless character tendencies. Yes he is a kid, but I'm not going to knowingly take him with this issue.

 

[BritCard]

There are more option for Hopkins than just a straight first.

For example, KC's pick #31 with our pick #104 going the other way equals pick #39. Which is about the right ball park.

#31 with our #66 going the other way is equivalent to pick #56.

Lots of permutations that could see the 1st included.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Right...but the Bears will take Anderson at 2 is what I'm saying. We need any other team to trade up to 1 for us to get him, or if Bears do two trades.

I think Raiders and Colts will be more in play for #1 now.

 

[Zalixar]

I think Raiders and Colts will be more in play for #1 now.

We can only hope.

 

[BritCard]

I'm not taking Carter at 3 if I'm the Cardinals.

Not super productive and also has reckless character tendencies. Yes he is a kid, but I'm going to knowingly take him with this issue.

I'm oddly less bother about the stupid driving (who hasn't at that age?) than I am about the lying and cover up.

He should have owned up to it back when and it would have been cleared through the system and addressed by now. Likely wouldn't effect his draft stock. Now it very likely will.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think it is more feasible than people think. Part of the benefit is the short term nature of the commitment and it is a deep defensive draft.

I could see KC. When you win a Super Bowl, you have to make a big move or two to be competitive for the next run.

The Rams last year tried to rest on their laurels and thought they could trade in a aging Von Miller for an aging Bobby Wagner. And then their horrific lack of depth they had been running with for years caught up to them.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

He gone

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[Krangodnzr]

I'm oddly less bother about the stupid driving (who hasn't at that age?) than I am about the lying and cover up.

He should have owned up to it back when and it would have been cleared through the system and addressed by now. Likely wouldn't effect his draft stock. Now it very likely will.

Everything we had heard about Carter up until this point was that he was a damn choir boy. Agreed this should affect his draft stock. With top five picks, I'm looking for near spotless character.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[SoonerLou]

Everything we had heard about Carter up until this point was that he was a damn choir boy. Agreed this should affect his draft stock. With top five picks, I'm looking for near spotless character.

For Carter I actually think him dropping to a team like the Eagles works out perfect.

Would have a vet like Fletcher Cox to show him the way.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I'm oddly less bother about the stupid driving (who hasn't at that age?) than I am about the lying and cover up.

He should have owned up to it back when and it would have been cleared through the system and addressed by now. Likely wouldn't effect his draft stock. Now it very likely will.

The lying is amplified, with the crash and fatalities. If they had just been busted racing and lied about that, it would be a big deal, but not a career altering issue.

 

[Ronin]

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[SoonerLou]

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