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If only we had another candidate for #5 starter, I believe our best option as closer (until PaPA Grande returns) is Elmer Dessens.

He can't last even 4 innings as a starter. He does very well for an inning or two coming out of the bullpen.

Pedrique said yesterday that he will look for an option other than Koplove. I suggest Dessens.
 

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as much as i hate to say it, you may be on to something. if that guy would would just throw his fast ball more he could be respectable again, i mean the guy throws 92-95 consistantly.
 
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Why not our best?

Sunday July 25th. A one-run lead to protect for Randy Johnson, in what might be his last game in a Diamondbacks home uniform.

Who has been our most dependable relief pitcher this year . . . especially in his first couple of innings?

Elmer Dessens, that's who.

Why was he not brought in to pitch the 9th?

Why isn't he our closer for the rest of the season . . . and perhaps beyond?

You let us down, Al. :bang: :bang: :bang:
 

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Dessens deserves a shot, but honestly, I don't think he'll do it.

Fact is without Valverde this team has no closer, and at this point there would be such a small sample of save opportunites for anyone to really find out if someone like Dessens can get the job done.

I'd rather use a guy like Aquino, Bruney, or one of the other young guys in the spot in hopes we find someone, because odds are Dessens does not come back next year.
 

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Brian Bruney was brought up through the minors as a closer and that's where he should be considering the 2004 DBacks are a minor league team. Choate is awful (nice trade Joe, Patterson wasn't nearly this bad and at least he has an upside), Villafuerte is worse, and Fetters belongs on a crappy weekend warrior over-35 men's league. :

Can someone please tell me how Garagiola and Colangelo can possibly think this team can compete next year?
 

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Who was the pitcher that blew today's game?
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Brian Bruney was brought up through the minors as a closer and that's where he should be considering the 2004 DBacks are a minor league team. Choate is awful (nice trade Joe, Patterson wasn't nearly this bad and at least he has an upside), Villafuerte is worse, and Fetters belongs on a crappy weekend warrior over-35 men's league. :

Can someone please tell me how Garagiola and Colangelo can possibly think this team can compete next year?

I agree that Patterson definately has a bit more potential, but he was out of minor league options and at the time didnt seem likely to make the team, so getting a lefty specialist for him didnt seem like a bad idea at the time.

Edit: Oh, and Dessens for closer is a very good idea right about now.
 
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coyoteshockeyfan said:
I agree that Patterson definately has a bit more potential, but he was out of minor league options and at the time didnt seem likely to make the team, so getting a lefty specialist for him didnt seem like a bad idea at the time.

Edit: Oh, and Dessens for closer is a very good idea right about now.


You're right about Patterson, I totally forgot. There was no way he was going to clear waivers so offering him up as trade bait was a good idea considering we would have gotten jack for him. In retrospect, the team would have hid him in the 'pen or never promoted Daigle but hindsight is always 20/20. My bad.

Dessens being in the pen could be a good idea if he does well as we could get something for him during the August trading cycle. But the minute he falters I say we can see what Bruney can do. There's no use rehashing old mistakes like Dessens when we can look to the future and see what we might have in Bruney.
 

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Dessens might not get the opportunity because the save rule stipulates that the man must enter the game whil his team has a lead.

That may be tough to do. :confused:
 
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green machine said:
It was a team effort from Fetters and Choate.
Mike Fetters is a real public relations plus for the D'backs.

So is Joe Garagiola, Sr.

That doesn't mean that Joe is going to catch the 9th inning of Randy's one-run lead.

Fetters is a 1B Coach waiting to happen. One neck snap to the left for "stay at 1B", or one to the right for "take 2B". :D
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
You're right about Patterson, I totally forgot. There was no way he was going to clear waivers so offering him up as trade bait was a good idea considering we would have gotten jack for him. In retrospect, the team would have hid him in the 'pen or never promoted Daigle but hindsight is always 20/20. My bad.
Those kind of roster troubles usually end up working out. Somebody is always injured coming out of spring training. (Reynolds) and so Daigle had to be prematurely used. John Patterson would not have been lost due to lack of options because there would have been w roster spot for him.

It's not hindsight, it's stupidity and I said the trade was stupid, dumb and idiotic at the time. (Choate was truly awful and demoted to the minors by the Yankees last year).
 

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schillingfan said:
Those kind of roster troubles usually end up working out. Somebody is always injured coming out of spring training. (Reynolds) and so Daigle had to be prematurely used. John Patterson would not have been lost due to lack of options because there would have been w roster spot for him.

It's not hindsight, it's stupidity and I said the trade was stupid, dumb and idiotic at the time. (Choate was truly awful and demoted to the minors by the Yankees last year).


I'm not sure 100% sure how minor league options and waivers work but if Daigle was going to make the team over Patterson as Brenley and co. said after Spring Training, then wouldn't Patterson have been put on waivers and left for whoever wanted him?
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
I'm not sure 100% sure how minor league options and waivers work but if Daigle was going to make the team over Patterson as Brenley and co. said after Spring Training, then wouldn't Patterson have been put on waivers and left for whoever wanted him?

Short Answer: Yes, he was out of options and would have had to clear the waiver wire
 
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