Our franchise QB

[Russ Smith]

LOL is you’re gripe is that a rookie TE2 who missed a bunch of camp is the secret to unlocking the offense.

He was blocked by Maxx Williams for the first few games and TE is an impossible position to scout and develop. Your expectations are too high here.

Why do you always do that? you take a simple comment and turn it into an extreme and then ask the person to defend the extreme you made up.

I NEVER said McBride is the secret to unlocking the offense I said Kliff has a 2nd round pick at TE that he's not utilizing because his offense is Wr centric but his WR room is Hollywood, the corpse of AJ Green, a UDFA in Dortch, and 2 healthy games from Rondale.

I'm literally channel surfing right now watching one football "analyst" after another say the same thing why is Kliff Kingsbury still the coach?

 

[BritCard]

It's not Kyler...

35% over 10 yards. Not 20 yards. 10 yards!

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[kerouac9]

Arians could not take Keim and Bidwill in the end. This is like Texans situation.

I still think that Arians was forced out by Keim and Michael, not the other way around.

Why do you always do that? you take a simple comment and turn it into an extreme and then ask the person to defend the extreme you made up.

I NEVER said McBride is the secret to unlocking the offense I said Kliff has a 2nd round pick at TE that he's not utilizing because his offense is Wr centric but his WR room is Hollywood, the corpse of AJ Green, a UDFA in Dortch, and 2 healthy games from Rondale.

I'm literally channel surfing right now watching one football "analyst" after another say the same thing why is Kliff Kingsbury still the coach?

Then why are your panties twisted up that a rookie #2 TE isn't doing more? All those guys including washed A.J. Green are better than a rookie #2 TE who missed half of training camp. That's what you think the problem with the offense is -- or at least a major symptom?

In the best circumstance McBride should be like the 8th option in the offense. Greg Dortch is much more prepared to contribute in the offense than McBride.

Don't care much about what the talking heads on Monday Morning Airfill have to say about this situation. They were busy watching Bills-Chiefs yesterday.

 

[Shane]

It's not Kyler...

35% over 10 yards. Not 20 yards. 10 yards!

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Wow DEAD LAST

 

[Shane]

So we payed 1/4 Billion for a QB who is averaging:

240 yards a game passing 1TD per game throwing. And has an overall QB rating of 81…. Seriously 81…. Ughhhhh

 

[Bkbobo]

Kyler still needs his WR to be open before he throws to them. In the NFL, QBs are expected to throw WRs open and not the other way around.

Even when he has time and a decent pocket, Kyler throws off his back foot. That works in high school and college, but not in the pros.

 

[Arz101]

Here is the deal, Kyler will never improve. He is only as good as his surroundings which is poor right now. Wake up and Give up on Kyler getting better.

 

[Stout]

Kyler will never improve with Kingsbury as the HC.

...or until he decides he really needs to improve.

 

[Zalixar]

Not that it excuses Kyler, but there has been pretty bad QB play across the board in the NFL this year.

Kind of a weird year really.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

...or until he decides he really needs to improve.

100% this

 

[Russ Smith]

I still think that Arians was forced out by Keim and Michael, not the other way around.


Then why are your panties twisted up that a rookie #2 TE isn't doing more? All those guys including washed A.J. Green are better than a rookie #2 TE who missed half of training camp. That's what you think the problem with the offense is -- or at least a major symptom?

In the best circumstance McBride should be like the 8th option in the offense. Greg Dortch is much more prepared to contribute in the offense than McBride.

Don't care much about what the talking heads on Monday Morning Airfill have to say about this situation. They were busy watching Bills-Chiefs yesterday.

I give up, why do you keep saying firing Keim will win us 10 straight super bowls?

Now you defend something you didn't actually say and see how annoying it is.

 

[DeAnna]

Here is the deal, Kyler will never improve. He is only as good as his surroundings which is poor right now. Wake up and Give up on Kyler getting better.

He would improve if coaches would coddle him less and be more demanding.

They just interviewed Kyle VanDenBosch on radio who said a lot of things about K1 – none good. Mentioned how Jalen Hurts spend all off-season working to get better. How K1 still has very bad mechanics/footwork; when he said “other players have to adjust to him” and not the other way around. KK2 going too easy on practices. Yikes.

 

[BritCard]

I miss Carson Palmer. That was a proper quarterback and leader of the offense.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

He would improve if coaches would coddle him less and be more demanding.

They just interviewed Kyle VanDenBosch on radio who said a lot of things about K1 – none good. Mentioned how Jalen Hurts spend all off-season working to get better. How K1 still has very bad mechanics/footwork; when he said “other players have to adjust to him” and not the other way around. KK2 going too easy on practices. Yikes.

And it shows

Hard work pays off

 

[Russ Smith]

This is the comment I made about McBride.

"OK but none of the HIGH picks have developed. I don't think you become a SB team in the NFL by developing mid round picks or FA guys you do it by developing picks in the first 3 rounds and filling in with others.

Look at McBride has a nice game against Carolina, 3 catches, and I don't think he's had a target the last 2 weeks. I get you want to throw to Ertz and Hollywood and getting Rondale back has changed some things but yet another example of a high pick on offense so far being completely squandered by Kliff."

How anybody reads that and says Russ is saying McBride is the key to the offense why are we not featuring him is beyond me.

When you have 2 TE's in you have McBride blocking instead of Green or Dortch, he's not a great blocker but he's better than both of those guys combined as a blocker. If you noticed in the 2nd half when Ertz caught some balls, at least 2 were him lined up next to McBride, Seattle was in their base defense because we had 2 TE's in so it created an easier opening for Ertz and he got open and got the ball.

When we get hollywood back and have a healthy WR room by all means play more 3 WR sets we don't have that now.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think he retires, wanting nothing more to do with football and having made his bank.

Agree. Kyler isn't going to sign a third contract if he is a .500 QB.

 

[kerouac9]

This is the comment I made about McBride.

"OK but none of the HIGH picks have developed. I don't think you become a SB team in the NFL by developing mid round picks or FA guys you do it by developing picks in the first 3 rounds and filling in with others.

Look at McBride has a nice game against Carolina, 3 catches, and I don't think he's had a target the last 2 weeks. I get you want to throw to Ertz and Hollywood and getting Rondale back has changed some things but yet another example of a high pick on offense so far being completely squandered by Kliff."

How anybody reads that and says Russ is saying McBride is the key to the offense why are we not featuring him is beyond me.

When you have 2 TE's in you have McBride blocking instead of Green or Dortch, he's not a great blocker but he's better than both of those guys combined as a blocker. If you noticed in the 2nd half when Ertz caught some balls, at least 2 were him lined up next to McBride, Seattle was in their base defense because we had 2 TE's in so it created an easier opening for Ertz and he got open and got the ball.

When we get hollywood back and have a healthy WR room by all means play more 3 WR sets we don't have that now.

McBride played 28% of the snaps and had a bad penalty. He had zero targets. What more are you looking for from a rookie TE who missed half of training camp?

Much more concerned that Greg Dortch was out-snapped by Javon Wims.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kyler could actually be un-coachable & maybe Kliff did all he could with him. That is possible, but we won’t know that until we try with a different HC. Daniel Jones looked broken with Joe Judge now he actually looks competent with Brian Daboll.

Regardless of what it means for Kliff or it being "fair", this is the only path forward.

 

[Chopper0080]

He would improve if coaches would coddle him less and be more demanding.

They just interviewed Kyle VanDenBosch on radio who said a lot of things about K1 – none good. Mentioned how Jalen Hurts spend all off-season working to get better. How K1 still has very bad mechanics/footwork; when he said “other players have to adjust to him” and not the other way around. KK2 going too easy on practices. Yikes.

This isn't news. We are just at the part where things are so bad people are speaking about what has been going on since day 1.

@DeAnna is this available anywhere to listen to?

 

[DeAnna]

This isn't news. We are just at the part where things are so bad people are speaking about what has been going on since day 1.

@DeAnna is this available anywhere to listen to?

I think the Bickley & Marrota show is available on podcast?

 

[urs]

Kyler could actually be un-coachable & maybe Kliff did all he could with him. That is possible, but we won’t know that until we try with a different HC. Daniel Jones looked broken with Joe Judge now he actually looks competent with Brian Daboll.

Daniel Jones isn't a total disaster anymore, but I think that's mostly the playcalling and Saquon being one of the best in FB. Jones isn't asked to throw a million times a game and they have some actual creative QB run plays they call for him. Daboll getting the most out of his players, something no one has ever said about Kliff.

 

[football karma]

not to diminish the other issues with Kyler, but:

I wonder if he has something going on with his throwing arm. He sat out a few weeks in camp -- covid and some vague "arm soreness"

his accuracy this season is terrible, especially on deep balls. We can point out his footwork -- but that has always been bad.

had a 4th down throw to Moore that he fluttered. Had a third down throw to Ertz that forced Ertz to the ground and was stopped a couple yards short. A crosser to Hollywood that sailed 3 feet high. The deep throw that was picked was short. Another deep shot to Hollywood was short and behind him.

 

[slanidrac16]

not to diminish the other issues with Kyler, but:

I wonder if he has something going on with his throwing arm. He sat out a few weeks in camp -- covid and some vague "arm soreness"

his accuracy this season is terrible, especially on deep balls. We can point out his footwork -- but that has always been bad.

had a 4th down throw to Moore that he fluttered. Had a third down throw to Ertz that forced Ertz to the ground and was stopped a couple yards short. A crosser to Hollywood that sailed 3 feet high. The deep throw that was picked was short. Another deep shot to Hollywood was short and behind him.

Then he shouldn’t be playing!

 

[Russ Smith]

McBride played 28% of the snaps and had a bad penalty. He had zero targets. What more are you looking for from a rookie TE who missed half of training camp?

Much more concerned that Greg Dortch was out-snapped by Javon Wims.

Literally just watched Frank Sanders and company asking if you look the 2TE stuff works better so why don't they play it more? His point was pretty clear, when we play multiple WR's Kliff gets "cute" and it doesn't work. when he plays 2 TE's his play calling improves because he eliminates some of those giveaway plays.

FWIW Sanders said "we can't trust Rondale."

 

[kerouac9]

Literally just watched Frank Sanders and company asking if you look the 2TE stuff works better so why don't they play it more? His point was pretty clear, when we play multiple WR's Kliff gets "cute" and it doesn't work. when he plays 2 TE's his play calling improves because he eliminates some of those giveaway plays.

FWIW Sanders said "we can't trust Rondale."

I don't have stats for 2TE sets so I can't really speak to that. I'd love to see them. It's possible that that's more of a small-sample-size thing.

Most teams run primarily out of 3WR sets so I don't know what to tell you.