Our new WR is.... Chansi Stuckey

[azmike74]

Why because getting a Starting QB, Starting G, Starting TE, Starting ILB, Depth at DL, and a #3-#4 WR is worse than no football?

I swear some of you bitch to bitch

I love your optimism Chris, but I want everything that's available and good!

 

[Mitch]

I love your optimism Chris, but I want everything that's available and good!

Mike...in addition to adding our QBOP&F and adding valuable starting & depth talent to the team at a number of positions...we just were informed that the Cardinals...that's right...the Cardinals...made a strong push to sign Nmamdi.

Seriously, what do you want?

 

[SunsTzu]

Why because getting a Starting QB, Starting G, Starting TE, Starting ILB, Depth at DL, and a #3-#4 WR is worse than no football?

I swear some of you bitch to bitch

I said it tounge in cheek but lets double check the scorecard.

The cards have also lost a #2 WR, starting(potential pro-bowl) CB, depth at DL, may lose a starting G.

Starting ILB they signed has injury concerns and I don't believe the starting QB(I feel the over paid for) is the long term solution.

But I do like the TE signing.

 

[Duckjake]

Hey 40year us old guys have to love the Cards getting a Stuckeys

 

[Brewster10]

Why because getting a Starting QB, Starting G, Starting TE, Starting ILB, Depth at DL, and a #3-#4 WR is worse than no football?

I swear some of you bitch to bitch

More like:

1) Added a starting QB
2) added a starting G but also losing a starting G
3) added a starting TE
4) taken a flyer on an injury prone ILB who hasn't been productive since 2008
5) added a Dlineman, and lost a Dlineman
6) added a #3-#4 WR and lost a #2 WR
7) lost our #1 CB
8) lost a 2nd round draft pick

Sorry, not all that impressed... to me we haven't done anything worth a damn other than add Kolb and King... we've gotten worse in the secondary, no better on the Dline, our receiving core is worse, and our Oline still projects to be god awful.. The Cardinals are doing exactly what I thought they would... inch there way up to the salary cap floor by signing mediocre veterans to 2-3 million dollar short term deals..

 

[WarnerHOF]

This guy couldn't even make it on the Browns?

 

[Duckjake]

More like:

1) Added a starting QB
2) added a starting G but also losing a starting G
3) added a starting TE
4) taken a flyer on an injury prone ILB who hasn't been productive since 2008
5) added a Dlineman, and lost a Dlineman
6) added a #3-#4 WR and lost a #2 WR
7) lost our #1 CB
8) lost a 2nd round draft pick

Sorry, not all that impressed... to me we haven't done anything worth a damn other than add Kolb and King... we've gotten worse in the secondary, no better on the Dline, our receiving core is worse, and our Oline still project to be god awful

Speaking of which there seems to be no news on Lutui. Anyone hear anything?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

This guy couldn't even make it on the Browns?

If you have never seen him play I wouldn't laugh. I was really impressed when he was a rookie with the Jets.

Dave Razanno loves the signing, thinks he has a real shot at the #2 spot. Of course he loves the Bradley signing as well.

But I am sure that a former scout who pretty much craps on the Cardinals so he has ever reason to be negative wouldn't know what he is talking about.

Urban has already said our #2 receiver will be Doucet or Roberts. Stuckey was brought in to be a slot guy and he can fill that role well.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Seriously, what do you want?

James Jones, or a NFL caliber #2 WR.

I want another OG.

I want a veteran CB that I know we can put out there if Toler, or Peterson go down or struggle.

I want a backup NT.

What scares me is the Cardinals going to camp with our current core of WR's, CB's, NT's, OG's, and OLB's.

They are simply just not good enough to compete in this league. IMHO.

Furthermore, this is the Cardinals, so I lack the confidence that they will spend the money, and do the work to improve these areas.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Urban has already said our #2 receiver will be Doucet or Roberts. Stuckey was brought in to be a slot guy and he can fill that role well.

That is a HUGE mistake, IMO. The Cardinals will suffer this year for it.

What if Fitzgerald goes down ? How many guys you think are going to be on Fitz with these other "weapons" on the field ?

Poor decision making, moves, and evaluation of talent by the Cardinals.

It will be just like last year, but instead of the QB not being able to get the ball to the WR's, it will be the WR's not being able to get open for the QB.

All because the Cardinals didn't want to pay Steve Breaston 2mil a year ? Not good, IMO. Not good at all.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

More like:

1) Added a starting QB
2) added a starting G but also losing a starting G No we haven't
3) added a starting TE
4) taken a flyer on an injury prone ILB who hasn't been productive since 2008
Not a flier. Will be our starting ILB
5) added a Dlineman, and lost a Dlineman wash
6) added a #3-#4 WR and lost a #2 WR valid
7) lost our #1 CB And added a #1 corner via the draft
8) lost a 2nd round draft pick This should be with #1

Sorry, not all that impressed... to me we haven't done anything worth a damn other than add Kolb and King... we've gotten worse in the secondary, no better on the Dline, our receiving core is worse, and our Oline still project to be god awful

We upgraded our QB
We upgraded our LB
We upgraded our OL
We stayed the same on the Secondary
We slightly downgraded our receiving

And we are still looking for a corner and there are still free agents to be had.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That is a HUGE mistake, IMO. The Cardinals will suffer this year for it.

What if Fitzgerald goes down ? How many guys you think are going to be on Fitz with these other "weapons" on the field ?

Poor decision making, moves, and evaluation of talent by the Cardinals.

It will be just like last year, but instead of the QB not being able to get the ball to the WR's, it will be the WR's not being able to get open for the QB.

All because the Cardinals didn't want to pay Steve Breaston 2mil a year ? Not good, IMO. Not good at all.

Steve Breaston wasn't going to make or break this season.

Look I don't like bashing a guy to make a point but he hasn't been anything more than average in 2 years. He certainly wasn't pulling coverage off of Fitz

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Darren Urban flat laughed when someone said Breaston was pulling coverage off of Fitz. Not true.

 

[Evil Ash]

We upgraded our QB
We upgraded our LB
We upgraded our OL
We stayed the same on the Secondary
We slightly downgraded our receiving

And we are still looking for a corner and there are still free agents to be had.

You forgot about TE

 

[azmike74]

Mike...in addition to adding our QBOP&F and adding valuable starting & depth talent to the team at a number of positions...we just were informed that the Cardinals...that's right...the Cardinals...made a strong push to sign Nmamdi.

Seriously, what do you want?

Uhm, Nmamdi. I applaud all the moves the Cards have made. I appreciate their aggressiveness, it's a whole lot better than what we've seen in the past, but when a hot girl turns you down, it stings. (Although, most guys around ASFN have never been shot down by hot chicks )

And BTW Mitch, most of my posts are only half serious. I do appreciate the optimism that Chris, you and many others usually have. I am normally a pretty negative guy no matter what I try to do. Hope my joking post to Chris didn't offend you too much. BTW, I've never been shot down by a hot chick either guys, I just said that to make you feel like we had something in common.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Steve Breaston wasn't going to make or break this season.

Look I don't like bashing a guy to make a point but he hasn't been anything more than average in 2 years. He certainly wasn't pulling coverage off of Fitz

That is where we disagree. I understand and respect your point.

But I think you are wrong. Breaston is much better, IMHO of course, than any of the WR under Fitzgerald. I don't even think it is close.

Who is going to go over the middle besides Breaston ?

Roberts ? He will have to prove that to me this year.

Doucet ? He won't last a quarter.

Stuckey ? Again, he will have to prove it, cause I haven't seen it so far.

Better hope Housler is as good as where he was drafted and more.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You forgot about TE

Lumped him in with Oline / receiving. Fills both roles depending on the play.

He is an awesome blocker and a meh receiver.

 

[Dayman]

I like this signing. Stuckey showed a lot of potential in NY. I would still like to add a receiver with more speed, but Fitz/Roberts/Doucet/Stuckey/Williams isn't bad. Not spectacular, but not bad.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Darren Urban flat laughed when someone said Breaston was pulling coverage off of Fitz. Not true.

Yeah, Urban wouldn't be saying that just to make the Cards look good. Naw, never.

Fine Breaston is not pulling coverage off Fitzgerald.

But what is even funnier is thinking Chansi Stuckey, or Roberts, or Housler or Doucet is going to do that.

My point exactly. We NEED another WR that is threat. We don't have one, and I doubt the Cardinals will go out and get one. I hope to be very wrong.

 

[CardsFan88]

The guy is a good cheap signing. He does find holes. So he's probably more cerebral that raw talent football player.

Good teams need guys like this.

But of course we need more than just these types of guys. Either way, our wr core is better with him than without him. Still need a #2 though. Will Stephen Williams develop into one? With our cap space I'd rather pick one up, and then have a chance at the surprise, rather than counting on. But still more time, players.

 

[oaken1]

is that fast little Jets receiver still holding out?? Because they just signed Roy Williams....maybe we can get their guy......

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That is where we disagree. I understand and respect your point.

But I think you are wrong. Breaston is much better, IMHO of course, than any of the WR under Fitzgerald. I don't even think it is close.

Who is going to go over the middle besides Breaston ?

Roberts ? He will have to prove that to me this year.

Doucet ? He won't last a quarter.

Stuckey ? Again, he will have to prove it, cause I haven't seen it so far.

Better hope Housler is as good as where he was drafted and more.

I smell a board bet...

Breaston yards versus the highest Cards receiver after Fitz?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

My honest guess is that Stuckey keeps Komar from seeing the field and that isn't a bad thing.

 

[Buckybird]

That is a HUGE mistake, IMO. The Cardinals will suffer this year for it.

What if Fitzgerald goes down ? How many guys you think are going to be on Fitz with these other "weapons" on the field ?

Poor decision making, moves, and evaluation of talent by the Cardinals.

It will be just like last year, but instead of the QB not being able to get the ball to the WR's, it will be the WR's not being able to get open for the QB.

All because the Cardinals didn't want to pay Steve Breaston 2mil a year ? Not good, IMO. Not good at all.

The mistake was made the day we drafted Ryan Williams in Rd 2 instead of Cobb, Little or Gates IMO. This teamed needed a speed WR knowing they had concerns about Breastons knee & wouldn't resign him!!!

 

[Brian]

I'm fine with the Stuckey signing, as long as he isn't expected to be the #2. The Cards don't have a #2 on the roster, didn't last year either, but we really didn't know what we had considering the epically horrible QB play, and the bad o-line play.

It's going to have to be a wait and see folks, as Kolb goes so go the recievers, and as the recievers go...so goes Kolb.

We'll see.