Pac-10/Big 12 realignment

[AzStevenCal]

Thats interesting. On the plus side, they're in a big market, Dallas. Additionally they'd open up the Pac to new and fertile recruiting grounds of Texas.

On the minus, they're not great in much besides football. They're a religious school which I think is a minus for the Pac, and they make travel a bit tedious, Dallas to Pullman would be a hell of a trip.

I'd imagine they'd have to come in with another school like has been traditional, who would that be? Perhaps Houston. They'd make a natural fit and would of course leave their 2nd rate conferences to join the Pac. Having both of those markets is certainly appealing, though how you split a 14 team conference into two divisions would be very tricky.

For now Im happy with Utah and Colorado and hope it stays put as the P12 for a while.

It would make sense only if they could add 2 more teams that would fit in better with the Washington/Oregon/NoCal group to offset the Texas teams, IMO.

Steve

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Thats interesting. On the plus side, they're in a big market, Dallas. Additionally they'd open up the Pac to new and fertile recruiting grounds of Texas.

On the minus, they're not great in much besides football. They're a religious school which I think is a minus for the Pac, and they make travel a bit tedious, Dallas to Pullman would be a hell of a trip.

They're also pretty good traditionally in baseball. Basketball, eh but two outta three ain't bad I suppose.

Fort Worth to Pullman would be HORRIFIC. Same with Fort Worth to either Eugene, Seattle or Corvallis. However, my thought is that they hypothetically would wind up in the Pac 10 South, with ASU, U of A, Utah, Colorado, USC and UCLA. The transport wouldn't be as brutal only making it once every two years.

I'd imagine they'd have to come in with another school like has been traditional, who would that be? Perhaps Houston. They'd make a natural fit and would of course leave their 2nd rate conferences to join the Pac. Having both of those markets is certainly appealing, though how you split a 14 team conference into two divisions would be very tricky.

I know they haven't had a strong tradition of success, however I wonder if UNLV might be a possible expansion target. If you put them in the North, the trek from Vegas to Eugene, San Francisco Bay Area, Corvallis, etc isn't so harsh. Also, gaining Las Vegas, along with the prospective Dallas-Fort Worth expansion with TCU, Salt Lake City and Denver media markets would make this Pac 10 network a major selling point in terms of market sizes.

Just some speculation on UNLV... Nothing base to hinge it on.

 

[AsUdUdE]

Just wanted to say, I am STOKED that it looks like the PAC-12 will have basically a north south division while we will get the newbies and avoid having to travel north so often, and avoiding Cal, Oregon, Stanford some of the time...

IMO, this is the best situation for the Devils, expecially with USC struggling at the time in a lot of sports..

What is kind of interesting, brought up I believe on the Gambo and Ash show, the vote was 7-5, if you assume the oregon and washington schools and alng with the new guys voted for the split (a safe assumption) and the California schools all voted against the split (another safe assumption), there is a lot of speculation that the Arizona schools split their vote..

I wonder who didn't like the split? ASU or UofA, because again, imo, I think it is a clear benefit for both schools to split the way they did...

 

[HooverDam]

I hate the alignment. Its unfair to the Northern schools and it stinks breaking up the California schools. Sure I guess it gives ASU some slight recruiting edge, but I don't really care. Im going to miss playing the Oregon, Washington and Bay schools each year.

A zipper that kept together secondary rivalries was really the only system that was fair and made sense. It was so obvious I don't know why they didn't go for it.

It should've been:

A...................B
ASU...............UA
USC...............UCLA
Stanford.........Cal
OSU...............Oregon
Wazzu............Washington
Utah..............Colorado

Or something like that, Utah/CU being basically interchangeable of course. The only trick would've been which division gets WSU since theyre historically fairly weak across the board, as is OSU except for the very recent past. I figure you put them in the same division as USC so as not to have too much of one division outweighing the other.

 

[Folster]

I posted this in another thread that doesn't get much traffic:

Within the North/South alignment they are proposing a 5-2-2 scheduling format to placate the California schools. For instance, USC and UCLA would play the other 5 teams in their division then play 2 games guaranteed against Stanford and Cal The other two games would float between the Oregon and Washington schools.

It's not a bad compromise but I'd rather see scheduling with no built in biases. The four interdivision games should float equally. With this rotation, the No Cal and So Cal will still get to play each other twice in a 3 year period. Not to mention they have the opportunity to play in the conference championhip. They make it seem like they will never play each other again.

 

[Nasser22]

Just wanted to say, I am STOKED that it looks like the PAC-12 will have basically a north south division while we will get the newbies and avoid having to travel north so often, and avoiding Cal, Oregon, Stanford some of the time...

IMO, this is the best situation for the Devils, expecially with USC struggling at the time in a lot of sports..

What is kind of interesting, brought up I believe on the Gambo and Ash show, the vote was 7-5, if you assume the oregon and washington schools and alng with the new guys voted for the split (a safe assumption) and the California schools all voted against the split (another safe assumption), there is a lot of speculation that the Arizona schools split their vote..

I wonder who didn't like the split? ASU or UofA, because again, imo, I think it is a clear benefit for both schools to split the way they did...

I agree man. On top of the slight boost of recruiting, we'd have a serious chance to contend in the short term, especially next year, with this alignment. I'm excited to watch the Pac-12 next season.