Pacers @ Suns game thread 1-14-18

[Mainstreet]

End of 1st quarter.

Pacers 30 - Suns 16

 

[Finito]

Watching the Suns right now on the floor Alex Len, Troy Daniels, Danuel House, Alec Peters and Isiah Canaan. The single worst line up in the 50 year history of the franchise?

 

[Mainstreet]

Watching the Suns right now on the floor Alex Len, Troy Daniels, Danuel House, Alec Peters and Isiah Canaan. The single worst line up in the 50 year history of the franchise?

This has to be very close. LOL

 

[Mainstreet]

Jackson has stepped up tonight. Bender has taken a step back.

 

[Mainstreet]

Jackson is so good tonight. He has 14 points and doing everything.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Are you using Firefox @JCSunsfan

Chrome

 

[Mainstreet]

Chrome

If you were using Firefox I could have helped you. Perhaps you might Google why tweets will not load on Chrome.

It's likely a security device in your browser or in your anti-virus.

Good luck.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns can't even do garbage time. There is not even entertainment value tonight.

As some have noted, their schedule only gets tougher.

 

[elindholm]

This was the first I've seen of Peters, and I know it was only a few minutes, but man, you can just tell how white he looks.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean "white," I meant "smart." That's what you can tell. He reminds me of Bender.

 

[Mainstreet]

This was the first I've seen of Peters, and I know it was only a few minutes, but man, you can just tell how white he looks.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean "white," I meant "smart." That's what you can tell. He reminds me of Bender.

This sounds like...

 

[Hoop Head]

Haven't been impressed by Peters. You can tell why he was a second round pick. He lacks athleticism.

 

[Errntknght]

This sounds like...

If you ever figure out what E. was trying to convey, let us know.

 

[Phrazbit]

Jackson was great, he's been much improved lately. Bender was hot garbage. Booker's ability as a playmaker is really coming along, he's good at taking that extra dribble to pull defenders in right before he passes.

 

[SirStefan32]

I am not sure Bender could play worse if he tried. Yikes!

 

[Mainstreet]

If you ever figure out what E. was trying to convey, let us know.

IMO, it goes along a racist theme which has not been uncommon for the Suns forum. I think this is what elinholm is hinting

See post #334 at the link below.

In fairness there is a long history of posters expressing their belief, the Suns prefer white players.

Why can't you make a point without an absurd exaggeration? Stoudemire and Marion were each with the Suns for eight seasons (eight-plus in Marion's case). There was nothing "quick" about their departure from Phoenix. In fact Marion and Stoudemire are 6th and 10th, respectively, on the list of career games played with the franchise.

I do think that the fan base, as a population, leans racist, as you would expect from one of the reddest states in the union. And I have, myself, also commented on the organization's apparent preference for white players. But those arguments can be made without resorting to silly hyperbole.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/fo...ve-for-kevin-love.207171/page-23#post-2999077

 

[BC867]

IMO, it goes along a racist theme which has not been uncommon for the Suns forum. I think this is what elinholm is hinting

See post #334 at the link below.

In fairness there is a long history of posters expressing their belief, the Suns prefer white players.



http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/fo...ve-for-kevin-love.207171/page-23#post-2999077

I, too, tried to figure out Eric's meaning. I won't think of it in terms of "prefer", because that implies "intent" and who can say what the Suns intent is or was.

It was a fact in the Suns early history that they had a higher proportion of Caucasian players on the roster year after year than any other team. The Celtics were the only other team mentioned in that regard. It was ironic that the Celtics won tons of championships and the Suns have won none, which should illustrate that ethnicity has not been a factor.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don’t mind losses. I prefer wins. I don’t like blow out losses. But it’s clear this team needs to be reallybon it’s game to win. No TJ and Book struggling. Mulligan here.

But this was a moment for Bender to shine. He needs to up his game. It seems like he can only succeed when others like TJ and Book are playing well and he can stand out at the three point line and shoot incontested threes.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Pacers did such a nice reload by trading George for Oladipo and Sabonis plus signing Bogdanovic among other moves.

It looks like the Suns need more than a top 5 pick to get them going.

 

[Hoop Head]

The Pacers did such a nice reload by trading George for Oladipo and Sabonis plus signing Bogdanovic among other moves.

It looks like the Suns need more than a top 5 pick to get them going.

The Suns need a PG, desperately. This draft has players that can fill the Suns needs but they'll only have 1 pick that's high enough to fill a need with a player who could be a difference maker. They'll need to make a move in FA to round out their roster if they hope to compete. Who that player could be, who knows, but I'd be surprised if they take a wait and see approach like they did last offseason.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns need a PG, desperately. This draft has players that can fill the Suns needs but they'll only have 1 pick that's high enough to fill a need with a player who could be a difference maker. They'll need to make a move in FA to round out their roster if they hope to compete. Who that player could be, who knows, but I'd be surprised if they take a wait and see approach like they did last offseason.

A quality pg plus a star level vet either in trade or as a FA, and this team is in the playoffs. Both of those things can be accomplished this summer. If we continue to move forward exclusively with teenagers as our new players, we will be where we are for a long time.

 

[Hoop Head]

Little surprised no one mentioned Chandler grabbing his 10,000 career rebound against the Pacers. He's the 40th player in NBA history to hit that mark. He's played in just 1,066 games in his career so he averages damn near 10 a game. You can tell he's not the player he once was but he still helps the Suns on the boards. I wish he was more of a rim protector. Player don't drive at him as often as they do Len or Monroe but Chandler rarely leaves his feet when he's contesting shots, or grabbing rebounds. His rebounding is good because of positioning but if he had any hops left in him he could probably lead the league in boards.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns need a PG, desperately. This draft has players that can fill the Suns needs but they'll only have 1 pick that's high enough to fill a need with a player who could be a difference maker. They'll need to make a move in FA to round out their roster if they hope to compete. Who that player could be, who knows, but I'd be surprised if they take a wait and see approach like they did last offseason.

It's an old saying but the Suns need to draft BPA than pick for need with their first selection.

Perhaps BPA is a point guard, however if not, the Suns can likely trade for one. Utmost important is the Suns get a star caliber player with their first pick.

I think we agree the Suns will wait until the summer to do a trade because of the upcoming lottery.

Of course this could change if someone attractive becomes available at the trade deadline.

Free agency pickings seem slim but there should be someone who can help.

 

[BC867]

It's an old saying but the Suns need to draft BPA than pick for need with their first selection.

Perhaps BPA is a point guard, however if not, the Suns can likely trade for one. Utmost important is the Suns get a star caliber player with their first pick.

I think we agree the Suns will wait until the summer to do a trade because of the upcoming lottery.

Of course this could change if someone attractive becomes available at the trade deadline.

Free agency pickings seem slim but there should be someone who can help.

BPA is one philosophy. The drawback is that it is a 2-step process, which makes it more complicated and is less pro-active.

Drafting for need, on the other hand, is an aggressive step to directly fill your biggest hole, if such a player is available.

We have so many youngsters, some should be traded upfront for mid-career pro's to be starting Center or starting Point Guard.

 

[Mainstreet]

BPA is one philosophy. The drawback is that it is a 2-step process, which makes it more complicated and is less pro-active.

Drafting for need, on the other hand, is an aggressive step to directly fill your biggest hole, if such a player is available.

We have so many youngsters, some should be traded upfront for mid-career pro's to be starting Center or starting Point Guard.

I agree the Suns should look at trades to fill need with some of their first round picks but drafting for need with their first round pick is not a good proposition... unless BPA and need are the same player.

I'm looking at a two step process but the Suns have the assets (picks) to do both. Drafting BPA and trading for need should provide a blend of incoming talent. The reason I am looking at it this way, I want to make sure the Suns add another potential star with their first pick.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Little surprised no one mentioned Chandler grabbing his 10,000 career rebound against the Pacers. He's the 40th player in NBA history to hit that mark. He's played in just 1,066 games in his career so he averages damn near 10 a game. You can tell he's not the player he once was but he still helps the Suns on the boards. I wish he was more of a rim protector. Player don't drive at him as often as they do Len or Monroe but Chandler rarely leaves his feet when he's contesting shots, or grabbing rebounds. His rebounding is good because of positioning but if he had any hops left in him he could probably lead the league in boards.

Seems to jump plenty high enough for alley oops. Not sure I would suggest he has no hops left.