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The definition of an elite DB is one who can play press coverage WITHOUT a safety on top. Heck, any decent NFL DB should be able to execute decent press coverage with a safety on top. Too bad for us PP needs a safety on top.

Where did you find this definition?
 

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in fairness to you, he was pretty damn forgettable.

It's amazing we had a guy in Knight who could cover guys well but once the ball was in the air it was like his brain locked and he couldn't make a play on the ball.

We had Cedric Mack who got converted to WR, nobody could cover him, but he dropped like 3 TD passes in his first game and a half at the position and they eventually gave up.

The amount of bad CB play we have seen as Cardinals fans is disgusting.

I guess we did have Wehrli, Aeneas and now PP.
 

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Where did you find this definition?

It was verbalized and accepted into the lexicon at the time Revis Island came into being after he amazed everyone for shutting down every receiver he defensed without safety support most of the time(assigned to other cover duties and blitz packages) and with no exceptional rush pressure on the QB.
 

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Mike Jurecki ‏@mikejurecki · 52m52 minutes ago
CB (snaps, targets, receptions)
Patrick Peterson 327-27-17
Antonio Cromartie 318-27-12
Jerraud Powers 276-43-26
(via @pff)

Looks pretty good.
 

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CB (snaps, targets, receptions)
Patrick Peterson 327-27-17
Antonio Cromartie 318-27-12
Jerraud Powers 276-43-26

very bad season for peterson so far,,throw at him and u get a good chance to complete a pass.

he thinks to be better then he really is and he should try to work his ass off and being more humble,cause he has all tools to be the best
 
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CB (snaps, targets, receptions)
Patrick Peterson 327-27-17
Antonio Cromartie 318-27-12
Jerraud Powers 276-43-26

very bad season for peterson so far,,throw at him and u get a good chance to complete a pass.

he thinks to be better then he really is and he should try to work his ass off and being more humble,cause he has all tools to be the best

How can you say that is bad. He is usually covering the top WR on the other team and yet they have only targeted him 27 times. That means that either they aren ot open or they are looking away from PP. To put that in prespective, most top WR's are averaging over 50 targets so far this season.
 

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How can you say that is bad. He is usually covering the top WR on the other team and yet they have only targeted him 27 times. That means that either they aren ot open or they are looking away from PP. To put that in prespective, most top WR's are averaging over 50 targets so far this season.

Bruce but why always using the excuse he is covering best wr? He didnt against denver.
The way he play he can struggle even against the 3th receiver.
he gives too much field to the receiver ,he is slow with his read.play lazy,like he won for the 5th time the award as a best player in the nfl.
he doesnt recognize yet how to use hands against opposite receiver.
 
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Bruce but why always using the excuse he is covering best wr? He didnt against denver.
The way he play he can struggle even against the 3th receiver.
he gives too much field to the receiver ,he is slow with his read.play lazy,like he won for the 5th time the award as a best player in the nfl.
he doesnt recognize yet how to use hands against opposite receiver.

If he is so poor at everything you mentioned, they why has he only been thrown at 27 times and only allowed 17 receptions? You would think he would be getting picked on more than Powers, who by the way, has been targeted 43 time, which is 16 more times than PP. If you want to say he has made some bad plays I will agree, but you make it seem as if he is terrible.
 

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If he is so poor at everything you mentioned, they why has he only been thrown at 27 times and only allowed 17 receptions? You would think he would be getting picked on more than Powers, who by the way, has been targeted 43 time, which is 16 more times than PP. If you want to say he has made some bad plays I will agree, but you make it seem as if he is terrible.

i think they will start to throw at him more in the future
are poor stats,,if u throw at him u have 63% to complete a pass and then he allowed even 4 td pass.
haden 2 and he is playing bad too
sherman 1 and 50% of completing a pass
 
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How can you say that is bad. He is usually covering the top WR on the other team and yet they have only targeted him 27 times. That means that either they aren ot open or they are looking away from PP. To put that in prespective, most top WR's are averaging over 50 targets so far this season.


Even though you have not been able to see it, PP is playing bad because Keim, BA, Bowles and PP himself says he is. Think, if he was really good, opposing QBs would not throw at his man and PP at all, but since they do, that should tell you that he is not playing well and not earning his contract.

Argue you all you want, but your excuses for him would be OK only if he did not proclaim himself to be the best DB in the NFL and if he did not saddle the Cards with his huge contract. As I pointed out before, Keim is speaking out because he gave PP the huge contract with the understanding that PP had to elevate his game even beyond his prior years performances. I am sure PP understood that. Now Keim and PP are getting heat for that contract as well as PP's substandard play (and not even against the best receiver on the other team) that adversely affects the defensive schemes that are constructed with the assumption PP will lock down his receiver and that ain't happening.
 

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Even though you have not been able to see it, PP is playing bad because Keim, BA, Bowles and PP himself says he is. Think, if he was really good, opposing QBs would not throw at his man and PP at all, but since they do, that should tell you that he is not playing well and not earning his contract.

Argue you all you want, but your excuses for him would be OK only if he did not proclaim himself to be the best DB in the NFL and if he did not saddle the Cards with his huge contract. As I pointed out before, Keim is speaking out because he gave PP the huge contract with the understanding that PP had to elevate his game even beyond his prior years performances. I am sure PP understood that. Now Keim and PP are getting heat for that contract as well as PP's substandard play (and not even against the best receiver on the other team) that adversely affects the defensive schemes that are constructed with the assumption PP will lock down his receiver and that ain't happening.


With all the talk from you about Bowles agreeing this is sort of an odd comment yes?




Defensive coordinator Todd Bowles doesn't think it's either one. The Cardinals play more man pass coverage than most teams, and they've lost their best pass rushers to retirement (John Abraham) or injury (Calais Campbell).


Bowles and Keim both said that puts pressure on the cornerbacks.

"Patrick is one of the reasons we can do a lot of the things we do inside," Bowles said. "So for him to give up a pass or two here and there doesn't mean (he) struggles. It just means we left him out there too long."
 

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It's amazing we had a guy in Knight who could cover guys well but once the ball was in the air it was like his brain locked and he couldn't make a play on the ball.

We had Cedric Mack who got converted to WR, nobody could cover him, but he dropped like 3 TD passes in his first game and a half at the position and they eventually gave up.

The amount of bad CB play we have seen as Cardinals fans is disgusting.

I guess we did have Wehrli, Aeneas and now PP.

Hey, Duane Starks says leave his bro Tommy Knight alone lol
 

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