Patriots at Cardinals gameday thread 12-15-24

[BirdGangThing]

If the cb is able to wrap his arm around the receivers chest then bust that arm through the receiver’s arms it’s very hard to hold the ball

he's been draped on the entire time - refs just letting it happen - i hope mhj burns the ish out of him in the second half

 

[daves]

I'm no expert on WR technique, but seems to me that if Harrison had reached back and grabbed the ball with his hands, rather than waiting for it to fall into his arms, the CB wouldn't have been able to prevent the TD.

Haha, the commentator just said this! Harrison too passive.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Arizona Rushing

James Conner#6
Greg Dortch#4
Trey Benson#33
Kyler Murray#1
DeeJay Dallas#20
team

CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
4	71	17.8	0	53
1	6	6.0	0	6
2	6	3.0	0	4
3	6	2.0	0	4
1	3	3.0	0	3
11	92	8.4	0	53

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Haha, the commentator just said this!

Good call!

 

[BullheadCardFan]

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Arizona Receiving

Greg Dortch#4
Marvin Harrison Jr.#18
James Conner#6
Michael Wilson#14
Trey McBride#85
Tip Reiman#87
Zay Jones#17
team

REC	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG	TGTS
1	39	39.0	0	39	1
2	32	16.0	0	23	5
3	13	4.3	0	5	3
2	9	4.5	0	5	2
2	8	4.0	0	6	2
2	8	4.0	0	5	2
1	3	3.0	0	3	1
13	112	8.6	0	39	16

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm no expert on WR technique, but seems to me that if Harrison had reached back and grabbed the ball with his hands, rather than waiting for it to fall into his arms, the CB wouldn't have been able to prevent the TD.

Yup. High point that.

Maybe that would be making the play look too hard?

 

[Harry]

I'm no expert on WR technique, but seems to me that if Harrison had reached back and grabbed the ball with his hands, rather than waiting for it to fall into his arms, the CB wouldn't have been able to prevent the TD.

Good idea if ball thrown earlier

 

[Chopper0080]

If the balls thrown earlier there was more separation

The solid takeaway is that MHJ gained separation with his footwork vs a top CB. The other takeaway is that he has to get stronger at the catch point.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

There will always be good cornerbacks.

When you wait for the ball, makes it a lot easier for the corner to make a play

 

[Cheesebeef]

Technically a PBU and not a drop but he has to start making those.

Dude… your qualifiers are making you sound like a Harrison Honk on par with the Kyler Clan.

He’s got to high point and come down with it. Period.

 

[Cheesebeef]

When you wait for the ball, makes it a lot easier for the corner to make a play

How people don’t understand this is mystifying.

 

[Chopper0080]

The refs are letting the defense play physical. That ain't Marvin's game.

Not yet at least. Might be the best CB he has faced in his career.

 

[Proteus]

Cards up 13-3 after the 2nd quarter! Could be better but at least it's a two score lead for now.

 

[Chopper0080]

Dude… your qualifiers are making you sound like a Harrison Honk on par with the Kyler Clan.

He’s got to high point and come down with it. Period.

lol…I guess dude. It will be scored a PBU not a drop. That is why there is a difference in scoring.

 

[urs]

I don't remember being this disappointed when Fitz had his ups and downs his rookie year, maybe we all got spoiled watching Jefferson/Nacua/Chase

 

[Dback Jon]

I don’t understand these inconsistent refereeing

The play they called PI on Trey could be called 20 times a game.

And twice Gonzales got away with DPI on Harrison with no call

 

[Chopper0080]

How people don’t understand this is mystifying.

Who is disagreeing with this? Multiple people have said he needs to attack the ball and be more aggressive.

 

[Dayman]

This board seems pretty down for the Cards being up 10 at the half and getting the ball first coming out of the break.

 

[akg102]

I don't remember being this disappointed when Fitz had his ups and downs his rookie year, maybe we all got spoiled watching Jefferson/Nacua/Chase

Marvin is finesse and always will be. I'm now convinced that no one actually watched any of his tape before joining the "Hold the Line" crew during the draft.

 

[BritCard]

I'm no expert on WR technique, but seems to me that if Harrison had reached back and grabbed the ball with his hands, rather than waiting for it to fall into his arms, the CB wouldn't have been able to prevent the TD.

Much harder catch though. He's reaching back over the head of a defender with a twisted body position.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I'm no expert on WR technique, but seems to me that if Harrison had reached back and grabbed the ball with his hands, rather than waiting for it to fall into his arms, the CB wouldn't have been able to prevent the TD.

So what you're saying is, if actually went for the ball he might catch more passes. That's been my biggest gripe of him all season. He doesn't snatch the ball, he waits for the ball...and it's so frustrating to watch.

 

[Minski]

I’m having a hard time watching our offensive philosophy. Short passes continuously, it’s boring as hell. Petzing clearly cannot set up a decent pass scheme… he needs to go

 

[Chopper0080]

So what you're saying is, if actually went for the ball he might catch more passes. That's been my biggest gripe of him all season. He doesn't snatch the ball, he waits for the ball...and it's so frustrating to watch.

And is a correction he should be able to make.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

lol…I guess dude. It will be scored a PBU not a drop. That is why there is a difference in scoring.

There was no high point on the play. It was a great defensive play.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

This board seems pretty down for the Cards being up 10 at the half and getting the ball first coming out of the break.

Yes it could be better or it could be worse

But how many times have we seen this team find a way to lose instead of finding a way to win?

Too many times sadly