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The idea that this was the best offer out there when Rondo, a young STUD was offered, or when a guy like Curry was being dangled is a joke.

Paul wasn't going to re-up with Boston, otherwise he'd be there now. Golden State told NO that Curry was untouchable.

Put away your tinfoil hat.
 

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I agree with the few here that say this deal alone makes the Lakers take a giant step backwards. Bynum hasn't and won't make it through a whole season. Behind him now is a bunch of nothing (i.e. no defense, no rebounding, no size). If they somehow get Howard, then the Stern fix is in again. I don't think they have the pieces to make a deal for Howard, therefore will have to hope for some bigs to sign cheap.
 

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Marc Stein: One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."

So... you were saying... ?
 

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So let me get this straight: Lakers' fans love the deal. Everyone else pretty much hates it? Uh, not shocked. LOL
 

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Paul wasn't going to re-up with Boston, otherwise he'd be there now. Golden State told NO that Curry was untouchable.

Put away your tinfoil hat.

so you think there's nothing fishy about the best PG in the league on the league owned team going to the Lakers... even though they had no cap room next year... and didn't have to give up their biggest trading chip?

i know you're a Laker fan but that doesn't automatically make you ********.
 

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This is getting interesting. Hornets' GM has to answer to Hornets' ownership and Hornets' ownership is the NBA, which is owned by all the team owners. Owners not involved in this trade don't like the deal and with good reason. That could be enough to derail the whole thing.
 

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so you think there's nothing fishy about the best PG in the league on the league owned team going to the Lakers... even though they had no cap room next year... and didn't have to give up their biggest trading chip?

i know you're a Laker fan but that doesn't automatically make you ********.

Think about it, Scott. Minnesota/Milwaukee/Memphis etc. aren't going to trade for Paul because it would be a one-year rental. There are only a few teams that will make the trade because there are only a few teams that can sign Paul long term, the Lakers being one of them.

Pretty simple.
 

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It'll happen. Trades have to be approved by the other owners now? Even if NO is owned by the NBA, the Hornets aren't going to get a better deal with Paul calling the shots.

Giving up Gasol and Odom is giving up a lot. The owners are just crying because Paul will only re-sign with NY or LA.
 

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It'll happen. Trades have to be approved by the other owners now? Even if NO is owned by the NBA, the Hornets aren't going to get a better deal with Paul calling the shots.

Giving up Gasol and Odom is giving up a lot. The owners are just crying because Paul will only re-sign with NY or LA.

Well Houston will vote for approval.
 

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According to the NY Times, none of the owners were supposed to comment on proposed deals before labor agreement was officially in place...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/sports/basketball/knicks-close-to-signing-tyson-chandler.html

The parameters of the deal were first revealed by Sports Illustrated early Thursday. The deal’s completion and final details were first reported Yahoo Sports.

None of the teams could comment Thursday because the league was still technically in a moratorium period while it adopted the new labor agreement. The trade can become official after the league reopens for business at 2 p.m. Friday. Despite a league edict that banned even handshake deals, a number of teams and players agreed to terms.

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The ESPN story is all about working out the details and says it hit a snag because the Lakers want a big man or a PF back in any deal, they felt they were giving up too much size (especially if they can't get Howard).
 

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Minnesota/Milwaukee/Memphis etc. aren't going to trade for Paul because it would be a one-year rental. There are only a few teams that will make the trade because there are only a few teams that can sign Paul long term, the Lakers being one of them.
But if NO doesn't trade him, Paul will be forced to either re-sign with them or to sign with an under-the-cap team for less years, less money. The few teams he may wish to sign with long-term will not be able to sign him at all. He doesn't really have the leverage to force his way onto Lakers or NY since neither team can sign him in 2012.
 

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Think about it, Scott. Minnesota/Milwaukee/Memphis etc. aren't going to trade for Paul because it would be a one-year rental. There are only a few teams that will make the trade because there are only a few teams that can sign Paul long term, the Lakers being one of them.

Pretty simple.

but here's the rub... if the Lakers had a ton of cap room next season, I'd agree... this would be Melo all over again... but we're not talking about the same situation as Melo, right? The Lakers are WAYYYYYYYY over the cap and Paul won't be able to pick and choose where he wants to go next season, thus he DOESN'T have the team... or any team... over a barrel like Melo did. Same thing goes for Howard.

sorry man... but this is just fishy. I've never been one to call the Pau trade collusion, but this one... it just stinks to high heaven.
 

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It'll happen. Trades have to be approved by the other owners now? Even if NO is owned by the NBA, the Hornets aren't going to get a better deal with Paul calling the shots.

but that's just it... he's not calling the shots. again, this isn't a situation where Melo made it known where he wanted to go NY and could just wait out the year and sign there as a FA because both NY/LA don't have the cap room to sign Paul as a FA. do you really not see that?
 

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