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[40yearfan]

I just checked KFFL and this is all they have:

Cardinals | Graves wants to extend Boldin's contract
Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:22:45 -0700

Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports Arizona Cardinals general manager Rod Graves said he would like to extend the contract of WR Anquan Boldin. Boldin is currently signed through the 2010 season.


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Cardinals | Graves says team is not interested in trading Boldin
Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:18:47 -0700

Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports Arizona Cardinals general manager Rod Graves said the Cardinals are not interested in trading WR Anquan Boldin.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I have to think there is no way we trade him unless the return is unbelievable. He is the face of the organization and in many peoples' opinion was the cornerstone of the team's turnaround.

 

[WildBB]

I have to think there is no way we trade him unless the return is unbelievable. He is the face of the organization and in many peoples' opinion was the cornerstone of the team's turnaround.

Or at least the cornerstone of it not vanishing in the muck.

 

[Redsz]

How do you figure? The Cards could have traded him just as easily as they can trade any of their top tier players. I was talking exclusively about Boldin either. I am talking about Q, Dansby, Dockett and Wilson.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=107672

Dude, you make it sound like that other teams don't give out big money to their top players? Fitzgeralds extension has no more 'hamstrung' us than any of the other teams who extend their top talent. The issue is not cap room. We have enough.

Fitzgerald is in his mid 20's and was coming off a huge year. Plus, with that cap number he had all the leverage. Boldin is coming off a year in which he missed 4 games with injuries (again), is now approaching the big 30, has a reasonable cap number and is under contract to 2010. He can demand a trade if he wants. But where is Boldin's leverage? He has none. I think the Cardinals in good faith will give him a new deal, but it won't be like Fitzgeralds. The circumstances are different.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't get all the concern. Graves, who is always honest with the media,said they won't trade him.Now,if it becomes an issue next off season, then you may see a trade. It will not happen by this weekend,no way, no how.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I have to think there is no way we trade him unless the return is unbelievable. He is the face of the organization and in many peoples' opinion was the cornerstone of the team's turnaround.

There is a third option: Anquan Boldin makes himself so radioactive to the franchise that there's no way he could return. That's what happened to T.O. in San Fran and Philly, and what Ocho Cinco is currently doing in Cincy.

This is a terrible option for the Cards, but it's not impossible.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There is a third option: Anquan Boldin makes himself so radioactive to the franchise that there's no way he could return. That's what happened to T.O. in San Fran and Philly, and what Ocho Cinco is currently doing in Cincy.

This is a terrible option for the Cards, but it's not impossible.

That would be totally out of character.And,while not imposssible, it's very, very unlikely. If he does demand a trade, i think it will be done quietly and not the media circus that the other WR's crave.

 

[football karma]

There is a third option: Anquan Boldin makes himself so radioactive to the franchise that there's no way he could return. That's what happened to T.O. in San Fran and Philly, and what Ocho Cinco is currently doing in Cincy.

This is a terrible option for the Cards, but it's not impossible.

you never know, but I just dont see that happening.

Graves has acknowledged he needs a new deal. Q has been a class act. Usually radioactive comes from a combination of a player who cant control himself in front of a microphone and a front office that basically says "No effing way" to a new deal.

Not saying he will be at every voluntary minicamp........

 

[cardsfanmd]

Dude, you make it sound like that other teams don't give out big money to their top players? Fitzgeralds extension has no more 'hamstrung' us than any of the other teams who extend their top talent. The issue is not cap room. We have enough.

Fitzgerald is in his mid 20's and was coming off a huge year. Plus, with that cap number he had all the leverage. Boldin is coming off a year in which he missed 4 games with injuries (again), is now approaching the big 30, has a reasonable cap number and is under contract to 2010. He can demand a trade if he wants. But where is Boldin's leverage? He has none. I think the Cardinals in good faith will give him a new deal, but it won't be like Fitzgeralds. The circumstances are different.

Let me make my position clear.

I am not complaining about Fitz's deal. He is a great player and a valuable commodity.

What I was talking about was how pathetic our organization was in getting it done. When negotiations started, Fitz asked for one thing and we offered another. Once most of the decent FA players were gone we caved in and gave him pretty much exactly what he wanted to begin with. If we were gonna do that, the deal could have been done weeks earlier and Alan Faneca would likely be a Cardinal right now. Dropping to our knees for Fitz like we did set a horrible precident. Once your fears and weaknesses are exposed, you will be attacked again and again.

 

[Ryanwb]

Let's be clear, Boldin has no recourse... correct? It's not like in baseball where a player with 10 years experience 5 years with the same team can request a trade and if not granted can become a free agent????

 

[WildBB]

Let's be clear, Boldin has no recourse... correct? It's not like in baseball where a player with 10 years experience 5 years with the same team can request a trade and if not granted can become a free agent????

No , he can sit out.

 

[WildBB]

I don't get all the concern. Graves, who is always honest with the media,said they won't trade him.Now,if it becomes an issue next off season, then you may see a trade. It will not happen by this weekend,no way, no how.

You can never say never, especially in this league.

 

[DaisyCutter]

That would be totally out of character.And,while not imposssible, it's very, very unlikely. If he does demand a trade, i think it will be done quietly and not the media circus that the other WR's crave.

I agree that it would be out of character, but I don't see a lot of enthusiasm in Chad Johnson's offseason performances, either. More like... resignation.

I wasn't happy with the way that Q quietly and apparently sold out Lienart to begin last season, either. If the turned up the volume on that, or began talking about how he doesn't get the exposure with the franchise that he might with another team...?

There are tons of ways to get yourself out of a contract or off a team without burning down bridges with a fan base. I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult for Rosenhaus to get Q a meeting with Charles Barkley.

Personally, I think re-doing Q's contract right now is a bad idea. It sets a bad precedent and a poor standard with the rest of the locker room. How long as Ray Lewis been moaning about wanting a new contract? And he lead his team to a Super Bowl.

Q hasn't lead this team anywhere. Yet.

 

[Redsz]

Let me make my position clear.

I am not complaining about Fitz's deal. He is a great player and a valuable commodity.

What I was talking about was how pathetic our organization was in getting it done. When negotiations started, Fitz asked for one thing and we offered another. Once most of the decent FA players were gone we caved in and gave him pretty much exactly what he wanted to begin with. If we were gonna do that, the deal could have been done weeks earlier and Alan Faneca would likely be a Cardinal right now. Dropping to our knees for Fitz like we did set a horrible precident. Once your fears and weaknesses are exposed, you will be attacked again and again.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

The Cardinals wanted Larry Fitzgerald on this team. But with a lack of a bargaining postion they had no choice but to give him what he wanted.

I think the circumstances with Larry were somewhat unique. Boldin, AW and Dockett don't have that type of leverage. However, Dansby might be in the same boat as Larry. As he is excellent young player coming off a short term deal. But quite frankly, if they want to give him big money I won't have any problem with it. He deserves it.

 

[Redsz]

No , he can sit out.

Very few players do. As they get hit where it hurts (the wallet).

 

[slanidrac16]

I think the Cards will get an extension done with Boldin....it just won't be for awhile.
First problems first. Dansby by getting a long term deal done will save some cap space. Then maybe we can start to work on Boldin. Wilson would be next. Dockett is at the end of the line.

 

[WildBB]

Very few players do. As they get hit where it hurts (the wallet).

They can drag it into the start of the reg. season though.

 

[cardsfanmd]

We will just have to agree to disagree.

The Cardinals wanted Larry Fitzgerald on this team. But with a lack of a bargaining postion they had no choice but to give him what he wanted.

I think the circumstances with Larry were somewhat unique. Boldin, AW and Dockett don't have that type of leverage. However, Dansby might be in the same boat as Larry. As he is excellent young player coming off a short term deal. But quite frankly, if they want to give him big money I won't have any problem with it. He deserves it.

Again, the deal doesn't bother me. The amount of time and possiblity of improving the team that was lost does. That deal could have been reached much earlier.

 

[WildBB]

I think the Cards will get an extension done with Boldin....it just won't be for awhile.
First problems first. Dansby by getting a long term deal done will save some cap space. Then maybe we can start to work on Boldin. Wilson would be next. Dockett is at the end of the line.

There you go.

 

[ajcardfan]

Typical offseason stuff, it's taking something small and blowing it up way more than it is. Schefter HAS to talk about something every single day on that show.

 

[Shane]

I don't get all the concern. Graves, who is always honest with the media,said they won't trade him.Now,if it becomes an issue next off season, then you may see a trade. It will not happen by this weekend,no way, no how.

The concern is that he has requested a trade. Thus signaling he isnt happy.

 

[Redsz]

Here is the report:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807ea17e&template=with-video&confirm=true

Looks like he won't be going anywhere.

 

[Shane]

Typical offseason stuff, it's taking something small and blowing it up way more than it is. Schefter HAS to talk about something every single day on that show.

Theres a difference between drummingt something up and talking about it as compared to saying Q has personally approached the front office and requested a trade. Anyway you slice it thats BIG NEWS no matter the time of year.

 

[ajcardfan]

Theres a difference between drummingt something up and talking about it as compared to saying Q has personally approached the front office and requested a trade. Anyway you slice it thats BIG NEWS no matter the time of year.

It's just a move by Rosenhaus to get a new contract. I don't know, I guess some might be shocked by it. But, I've expected something to happen all along. I never bought into the "selfless-just-want-to-win" stuff that people were saying about Boldin when Fitz' deal was in the works.

 

[Spielman]

Let's be clear, Boldin has no recourse... correct? It's not like in baseball where a player with 10 years experience 5 years with the same team can request a trade and if not granted can become a free agent????

No, it's not like that.

It's not like that in baseball either, for that matter. A 10 and 5 player in baseball can veto trades or waiver acquisitions.