Playoffs 2010: Western Conf Finals, Game 4 – Lakers At Suns Game Thread

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PHOENIX (AP)—Losing one game in Phoenix was tolerable for the Los Angeles Lakers. Two losses and things start to get uncomfortable for the reigning NBA champions.
It’s safe to say that coach Phil Jackson was giving his team a refresher course on how to beat a zone defense when the Lakers worked out at US Airways Center on Monday after Phoenix employed the strategy to great success in its 118-109 victory on Sunday night. The Suns can square the series at 2-2 with another home win in Game 4 on Tuesday night.
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Jackson said he had never seen a team use the zone so much in a playoff game since the NBA legalized the defense in the 2001-02 season, not that Kobe Bryant(notes) seemed all that concerned.
When asked if a day of practice would be enough to work out how to attack the zone, he answered sarcastically.
“Nah,” he said. “We’re doomed.”
The Suns used the zone much of the second quarter and the entire second half. Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry said that was more than he anticipated but he stuck with it because it worked when nothing else had against the Lakers, who averaged 126 points and shot 58 percent in the series’ first two games.
There were inferences on Monday that the zone is somehow an “unmanly” defense, that real teams play man-to-man.
“We have to try every way we can to find a situation where we can win,” Gentry said. “Whatever that takes, that’s what it is. If we have to play our ‘girlie zone’ as somebody said, we’ll play our ‘girlie zone.”’
Steve Nash’s(notes) nose and Andrew Bynum’s(notes) knee were main subjects of discussion on Monday.
Nash has a small nasal fracture from a fourth-quarter collision with Derek Fisher(notes) but said he’s had “a handful” of broken noses and expected to be fine for Game 4. After all, he played the fourth quarter of Game 4 of the Western Conference semifinals with his right eye swollen shut after taking an elbow from Tim Duncan(notes).
“To me I think he’s as tough as they come,” Gentry said. “You saw what happened in the game last night, he tried to rearrange his own nose. My wife was in a car accident and broke her nose. It almost made her physically sick to see him grab his nose and just try to rearrange it himself.”
Bynum got in early foul trouble and had just two points and two rebounds in 7 1/2 minutes on Sunday night. After the game, Jackson talked about perhaps having the big center, who has a small meniscus tear in his right knee, sit out the next game. But Jackson said on Monday that Bynum would play.
“I talked to him this morning. He feels like he’s OK,” the Lakers coach said. “I was worried that he was impinging on his ability to play by concern about his health and status, and he says he’s OK.”
Jackson isn’t about to rest Bynum just to get him more ready for a finals matchup against Boston.
“The only thing there is is the Phoenix series,” Jackson said. “If we don’t just stay focused on that, there’s nothing else. You have to play immediately for this series and forget about whatever else is down the road.”
The taller Lakers dominated the inside game in the first two contests, but Phoenix’s front line duo of Amare Stoudemire and Robin Lopez(notes) outscored the Lakers’ trio of Pau Gasol(notes), Bynum and Lamar Odom(notes) 62-35 in Game 3. Gasol scored 23 on 11 of 14 shooting, but Odom made just 4 of 14 shots for 10 points.
Criticized widely for his play in the first two games of the series, Stoudemire attacked the rim from the start. In addition to making 14 of 22 field goals, he was 14 of 18 at the foul line. He had 11 rebounds, two more than in the first two games combined.
Lopez scored 20 on 8 of 10 shooting and his 7-foot presence anchored the Suns’ zone. He played 29 1/2 minutes in just his third game back after being sidelined with a bulging disk in late March.
In all, the Suns made 37 of 42 free throws to 16 of 20 for the Lakers.
That, Bryant said, was the difference.
Stoudemire knows he will be Los Angeles’ No. 1 target in Game 4.
“I’m not sure what they’re going to do,” he said, “but I guarantee you Phil is going to come up with something slick.”
Bryant nearly had a triple double with 36 points, 11 assists and nine rebounds but was just 2 of 8 on 3s. He said the Lakers were lured into taking a franchise playoff record 32 3-point shots, making nine of them.
“We’re not a great 3-point shooting team consistently anyway,” he said. “We did have good looks and sometimes get baited into taking those, some of them with the shot clock being low, granted. But we can do a much better job the first 17 seconds of the clock.”
He said the team also needs to clean up some “silly” turnovers. The Lakers had 17, five by Bryant, to the Suns’ seven.
Jason Richardson(notes) made 4 of 7 3-pointers on Sunday night. The rest of the Suns were 1 of 13. Channing Frye’s(notes) woes worsened. He went 0 of 7, 0 of 5 on 3s, and is 1 of 20 for the series. He has missed 17 in a row.
Frye was the last player off the practice court, shooting jumper after jumper. He was miffed about having to answer questions about “something little” like his shooting problems after such a big win.
“Sometimes the ball doesn’t go in, man. It’s just one of those things. It’s just not going in,” he said. “It’s going to go in tomorrow, though, I’m going to tell you that. They’re going to go in tomorrow.”
Bryant said, not surprisingly, that no one on his team was panicking. And just when was the last time Bryant panicked on the basketball court? In high school, maybe?
“When my shorts fell down,” he said. “They were too big.”
The big question is will the Lakers have an answered for the zone?
If they dont make their shots, its going to be hard. They sort of had problems with it during the regular season but it is logical to assume they will be more prepared for it tonight.


Go SUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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God Kobe and Phil so smack of arrogance its no wonder I hate them! They act like we just can't compete with their mighty Laker team. I like how the fact we beat them pretty handily while they shot a better FG % from the field and from 3 gets overlooked. Basically we shot the ball like crap and they hit a bunch of threes and we STILL beat them, but they talk as though we got a lucky one. Please for the love of god lets hit our 3's tonight and run them out of the gym and give them something to think about going back to LA. After all it wouldn't be the first time they look good early in a series against the Suns only to come back and LOSE!
 

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Keys to victory:

Continue to let Stoudemire drive into the paint instead of settling for mid range jumpers. What really helped us last game was to get Bynum and Odom in foul trouble. Posterize one of them if need be.

Prepare for the adjustments. Jackson will have a plan to exploit the zone. Have Gentry evaluate those changes early on to see what needs to be done. Even if it means putting yourself in a small deficit to start the game.

Exploit weaknesses. Primary one being the ineffectiveness of Bynum. He is clearly hobbled by his knee. Continue to force him to make plays, which he simply cannot do right now.

And my default response to playing the lakers: turn Kobe into Ko-Me.
 

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A little late, but congrats on the game 3 win. Now take game 4, and it's a brand new series.

Good Luck!!

ps Who is this Frye guy on your team. He's missed 17 shots in a row? I take it for granted he was better in the regular season?
 

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ps Who is this Frye guy on your team.

Well, he was the MVP of our series against the Lakers when he stepped up for 30 plus in games 4, 5 and 6. Following that, he helped lead a hungry Suns team to their first NBA championship. I'm surprised you don't remember this guy, he was truly the stuff of legends. It's always nice to reminisce about the great players of the past.

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If the Suns get hot behind the line they could blow them out in the first half.

Frye may be a lost cause but I find it hard to believe that everybody will stay cold from the 3 point line.
 

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1)Amare needs to continue to attack the basket and play aggressively(TJ touched on
this).
2)SUNS need to control the offensive glass and everyone needs to contribute.
3)LAKERS have no answer for Lopez.....keep him involved often.
4)LAKERS will likely get more physical in this one....be ready to answer the bell.
5)Gentry needs to instruct Frye to go out there and get 10 rebounds....watch him
only get 3 but find his shot in the process.
6)Force the LAKERS bench to defend the 3ball(att: Barbs,Dragic,Frye) because they
cant.
7)Give Derek Fisher a black eye.
 

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Not sure how I feel about Frye's response to his shooting woes. On the one hand, I'm glad he's not letting it get him down, but I'm not sure if I would be out there making statements that they're "going to go in tomorrow".

He's already somewhat made a fool of himself pre-series with his "he's going to know my name..." comments. These new comments just seem to pile on more pressure on himself.

And I for one, don't think he will be able to handle all this pressure he's put on himself.
 

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Not sure how I feel about Frye's response to his shooting woes. On the one hand, I'm glad he's not letting it get him down, but I'm not sure if I would be out there making statements that they're "going to go in tomorrow".

He's already somewhat made a fool of himself pre-series with his "he's going to know my name..." comments. These new comments just seem to pile on more pressure on himself.

And I for one, don't think he will be able to handle all this pressure he's put on himself.

I don't see it that way. In fact, false or not, it's very affordable bravado. If he fails to shoot well, who is going to be bothered by his bold claims that isn't already going to be disappointed by the guy for his misses? I don't know that these statements will propel him to a good game but they really cost him nothing, IMO.

Steve
 

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On the flip side if he goes out and buries 5 threes tonight it could be huge and help us to even this series up. The guy was solid from three all season long can't stop taking them!
 
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Hope Nash nose is not bothering him. Missing shots and free throws
 
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Amare needs to freaking hack him or not touch him at all. Brain fart moment
 

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LOL Frye just threw it up. At least he got a foul!
 

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Frye swishes a 10 foot FT. WOOT, he is awesome.
 

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