Poll - Cards first Rd pick?

Cards Rd #1 - Selection?


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I want Bosa for two main reasons, first being you stick him opposite Jones on the edge and you immediately give every team in the division fits on offense, and then when they need a breather or on third down you have a fresh Suggs out there going against a tired offensive line. That's a killer rotation.

The other being that Rosen still deserves a shot and he's done nothing to warrant us giving up on him. They took him in the first round for a reason last year after all.


Does Rosen deserve a shot? I like Rosen, but if the Cardinals think Murray is going to be better, you take the QB.

Murray will touch the ball 99.999% of the time on offense.

Plus Murray is going to make the Cardinals exciting.
 

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They only have 1 good DT.

It makes more sense to draft Bosa, but it’s not definite as it was with the signing off Dee Ford & the lack of good IDL for them.
I think they signed ford because they are pretty sure bosa wont be there when they pick
 

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Does Rosen deserve a shot? I like Rosen, but if the Cardinals think Murray is going to be better, you take the QB.

Murray will touch the ball 99.999% of the time on offense.

Plus Murray is going to make the Cardinals exciting.

Exciting and 3-13 .
 

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I think they signed ford because they are pretty sure bosa wont be there when they pick
They signed him cause they need pass-rushers period.

That’s basically like the 49ers fans that been saying we shouldn’t draft Bosa cause we have Chandler already.
 
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Or does it?

They can get out of the Ford deal after 1 year. But why wouldn't they want Dee Ford and Bosa just like we may want Chandler Jones and Bosa?

People are also saying we aren't drafting Bosa because of Suggs.

I said, that it's a 'tell' that they do not 'expect' him to be there.

They'd rush to the podium to pick Bosa!
 

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They signed him cause they need pass-rushers period.

That’s basically like the 49ers fans that been saying we shouldn’t draft Bosa cause we have Chandler already.
You know I been on the Josh Allen bandwagon... but having Bosa across fron CJones would be a devastating combination.... in nickel and dime formations, dropping suggs in to DT with nkemdiche while CJones and Bosa are at DE would be lethal...thats how you get pressure with a four man front right there.
of course, we could do the same thing with allen
 
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Does Rosen deserve a shot? I like Rosen, but if the Cardinals think Murray is going to be better, you take the QB.

Murray will touch the ball 99.999% of the time on offense.

Plus Murray is going to make the Cardinals exciting.

What do the Cardinals know today about their QB situation that they didn't when the season ended and it was confirmed they had pick #1?

What do they know about KM today that they didn't know at the end of the College season?

Was KK hired to improve the offence under Rosen or did he suggest it was already time for a change?

If it was time for a change, why hire Tom Clements, a traditional OC would had worked with A. Rodgers?

Why bring in Hundley, with a background in GB, as a backup QB?
 
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What do the Cardinals know today about their QB situation that they didn't when the season ended and it was confirmed they had pick #1?

For one, they didn't know that Kyler was committed to football. At points during this last season, it was a foregone conclusion he was going to the A's.
What do they know about KM today that they didn't know at the end of the College season?

See above. The decisionmakers of NFL teams don't have a ton of time to scout during the season as well.
Was KK hired to improve the offence under Rosen or did he suggest it was already time for a change?

KK was hired to make the offense better. Whether that's with Murray, Rosen, or Santa Claus, I think the team is going to go with the guy who gives them the best chance to win.
If it was time for a change, why hire Tom Clements, a traditional OC would had worked with A. Rodgers?

They hired Clements to marry Air Raid concepts with traditional NFL concepts. Thats what the team said.
Why bring in Hundley, with a background in GB, as a backup QB?

Hmm Hundley himself said he's played under similar concepts to Air Raid under Noel Mazzone at UCLA.

That can easily be argued either way.
 
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For one, they didn't know that Kyler was committed to football. At points during this last season, it was a foregone conclusion he was going to the A's.


See above. The decisionmakers of NFL teams don't have a ton of time to scout during the season as well.


KK was hired to make the offense better. Whether that's with Murray, Rosen, or Santa Claus, I think the team is going to go with the guy who gives them the best chance to win.


They hired Clements to marry Air Raid concepts with traditional NFL concepts. Thats what the team said.


Hmm Hundley himself said he's played under similar concepts to Air Raid under Noel Mazzone at UCLA.

That can easily be argued either way.

Good answers.
 

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I don’t fear SF’s defense. Man it seems like yesterday they had Justin/Aldon Smith, Bowman, Willis, Goldson, Whitner and Vic Fangio etc... I was pretty surprised how good Richard Sherman was last year but he’ll be 31.

DeForest Buckner and Nick Bosa would be a good start but Dee Ford is a lottery ticket. You don’t know which version of him will show up.

Heard interesting theory on the radio that Murray is bulking up even if it means sacrificing speed. Durability is what teams are worried about with him and he’s still plenty elusive regardless of 4.3 vs 4.4... Not to keep bringing up Russell Wilson but he ran 4.55 at 204 lbs.
 

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I don’t fear SF’s defense. Man it seems like yesterday they had Justin/Aldon Smith, Bowman, Willis, Goldson, Whitner and Vic Fangio etc... I was pretty surprised how good Richard Sherman was last year but he’ll be 31.

DeForest Buckner and Nick Bosa would be a good start but Dee Ford is a lottery ticket. You don’t know which version of him will show up.

Heard interesting theory on the radio that Murray is bulking up even if it means sacrificing speed. Durability is what teams are worried about with him and he’s still plenty elusive regardless of 4.3 vs 4.4... Not to keep bringing up Russell Wilson but he ran 4.55 at 204 lbs.
If SK goes batshit crazy and drafts Murray and Murray's gets hurt and misses significant time then what will the Murray's fans come up with for a excuse?
 

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If SK goes batshit crazy and drafts Murray and Murray's gets hurt and misses significant time then what will the Murray's fans come up with for a excuse?

Idk but you seem too caught up about what other fans think. I have concerns about Rosen’s durability and while it might’ve helped his rep with teammates it tanked his accuracy and put more wear and tear on his body that has taken a beating for 3-4 years. Eff Steve Wilks and his old school mentality for continuing to throw him out there like a piñata.
 

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Idk but you seem too caught up about what other fans think. I have concerns about Rosen’s durability and while it might’ve helped his rep with teammates it tanked his accuracy and put more wear and tear on his body that has taken a beating for 3-4 years. Eff Steve Wilks and his old school mentality for continuing to throw him out there like a piñata.
I have concerns about Murray's durability because of his size.I think no matter how "elusive" he is he still will get nailed.Rosen is what 6'4 220 and Murray is 5'10 207 and likes to run around.So it would be foolish to dismiss or gloss over Murray's durability when he gets to the NFL.
 

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If Nick Bosa was the next Joey Bosa and Q was the next Aaron Donald....what would you say?

And if Murray was the next Russell WiIson?

So stupid.

Nick Bosa is a lot closer to (if not better than) Joey Bosa as a prospect. That is a reasonable expectation to have.

There's only been one Aaron Donald in the history of football - and he dominated college football for three years. The odds of Quinnen Williams becoming Aaron Donald are extremely slim and a ridiculous expectation to have.
 

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It’s funny but when you look back at past drafts there are so many examples of how somebody that was drafted first shouldn’t have drafted at all. Then there are players that were drafted 27th who should have been drafted 1st. Yet we spend countless of hour trying to convince each other who to draft and where they should be drafted. You gotta love sports and how it brings us together!
 

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