Re: Re: Re: Re: questions for vikesfan...
Originally posted by vikesfan
When we all talk about the draft we are in same position as I am with respect to the Cards.
I can come to a team and analyze it. I was starting to look at OAK and WAS and ARI cause of the possible DG hire. I mean there are fans of the team who know nothing about football and make ludicrous comments. At least I am coming from it from a reasonable perspective.
I understand your doubts. But I have done research. Just judge me by what I say if it is correct or not. I am not just talking out of my @$$ in my positions I have incorporated what you Cards fans have said about the players. I have looked at internet information. And I will be reading the magazines soon. And yes finally I will see every game this year they play.
I am a quick study I look at patterns that apply across the NFL. One thing that makes it hard to get a feel on the Cards is that fan opinion is so mixed. One guy thinks the OLBs are great another guy thinks they suck. I check stats on players etc. I think I have done a decent job so far on catching up to what this team is like. I don't think I am all that off the mark. I might have undergraded Shelton it seems like a lot of people swear by him so I upgraded him somewhat. There was some negative analysis that I read about him so I still have some doubts. We'll see but I don't think LT is a huge need based on what the fans said here now.
I am sure there might be 1 or 2 Cards fan on here who you would probably disagree with more on their perspectives on the team then with mine.
If you went to a Vikes forum
98% of Vikings fans would give you a completely different take on DG then I and azjam have. In fact I was shocked azjam was pro-DG. The thing is I can marshall facts to support what I say about him and the DG-Haters can't. And then you can make your own call as to who is right about him as coach and GM.
Thats not true.
You have said numerous times you think Pace and Johnson are busts but by your own admission have not seent hem play. How do really expect anyone to take that seriously?
I can find all kinds of stats to back up my position, but unless you watch a kid play you got no idea.
I have no problem with your 'knowledge' of the Vikes or other teams for that matter but whenit comes to the Cards your way off base lots of times.
You cant just 'become' a Cards fan. You have to be here to experience all the pain and agony this team, its coaches, its front office, and the decisions it makes. And furthermore you have to truly care!
Hell I watch my little nephew run around and destroy things, break vases, glasses et and say "wow that sucks" but when its said and done I go home and dont have to deal with it. Kinda the same thing here.
The Cards are our ugly, red-headed, freckle-faced kid, that we love!
Besides all that, just trying watching the players. You wont cant get how a guy does in certain situations by stats.
Did you see B.Johnsons phenomenal over-the-shoulder, twisting long bomb catch he made this year?
Did you see Wendell Bryant come out of the blocks this year and really play well until about weak 5. Pressuring the QB, getting tackles, reaking havoc?
Did you see Renaldo Hill's emergence as probably our best CB and ball hawk?
Did you see M. Shipp have back to back 140+ yard games?
Did you see Quan's breakout game against Detroit when no one had any idea who the hell he was and he torched the Lions secondary for 10 catches 217 yards and 2 td?
See not everything on this team is bad, but you do have to watch some of the 'lesser known' players actually play to get a guage on how bad or good they are!