Post 49ers Overreaction Thread

[PJ1]

Just hard to figure what this season accomplished. Changed the culture? Changed it to what? I mean it is difficult to watch this team.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Kyler unfortunately isn’t our long term answer. I just don’t think this team would be that much better with a different qb, it needs the backbones first.

Build the interior line in free agency, draft a legitimate WR that isn’t peewee size, draft any body who can start on defense (any secondary would be exposed with a front 7 this ineffective)

 

[Dayman]

This defensive front seven is very, very bad. Their last sack was November 19th. The whole "strength in numbers" philosophy only goes so far when you are this devoid of talent.

 

[PitchShifter]

Just hard to figure what this season accomplished. Changed the culture? Changed it to what? I mean it is difficult to watch this team.

Losing is a culture.

 

[PJ1]

Losing is a culture.

We already had that. What’s the change?

 

[HairZach]

I will say this, I've watched a lot of non Cardinals football this year. This is a defensive league, and defenses have been making most QBs look bad this season. This difference is that other non Cardinals teams also have a good defense to pair with their QB, and people are less critical of their QB as long as the QB does enough to win.

Murray against the 49ers today looked a lot better than Stafford, Lawrence, Dak or Hurts (Hurts was especially terrible) did against them. All of those teams have better weapons, and they all attempted to score in garbage time too.

 

[kerouac9]

Losing is a culture.

I’ll say this: I’m certain that Gannon knows what winning habits in the NFL are and look like. He’s trying to install those habits in an institution that had gotten extremely flabby since Whis was in charge and having success.

I don’t know if winning habits are enough if you don’t have the talent to back it up, tho. Gannon will have to show progress in the standings next year.

 

[Mark22]

Thing is - Murray isn't improving

Tough to improve with that receiving corp. surely you see that.

 

[oaken1]

Tough to improve with that receiving corp. surely you see that.

improvement for kyler is not just about completions and yards....and thats all the wr really affects

 

[Cards Crazy]

At This point I could logically say 1 of 2 things Package those 2 1st round picks and move up or use 1 of them For A Qb of Course there is absolutely No guarentee He will be any Better though after all what round was Purdy, Brady and Many others picked in Its a Hell of mess This Team is In from many Many Wrong Draft Free Agent Mistakes

 

[nashman]

I will say this, I've watched a lot of non Cardinals football this year. This is a defensive league, and defenses have been making most QBs look bad this season. This difference is that other non Cardinals teams also have a good defense to pair with their QB, and people are less critical of their QB as long as the QB does enough to win.

Murray against the 49ers today looked a lot better than Stafford, Lawrence, Dak or Hurts (Hurts was especially terrible) did against them. All of those teams have better weapons, and they all attempted to score in garbage time too.

Stop with these insightful facts don’t you know it’s all Kyler’s fault and he doesn’t have IT in some peoples eyes. Yet they put up 29 without throwing to our non existent WRs…. Lol

 

[nashman]

improvement for kyler is not just about completions and yards....and thats all the wr really affects

As stated above how did Hurts, Dak, Stafford, other fair against this 49 defense? And all those teams have a hell of a lot more weapons to work with than Kyler does…

 

[Carolinacacti]

Defense was unbelievably bad. Get Kyler another weapon. Next year they better score a lot of points because they need seven new starters on D

 

[Stout]

I will say this, I've watched a lot of non Cardinals football this year. This is a defensive league, and defenses have been making most QBs look bad this season. This difference is that other non Cardinals teams also have a good defense to pair with their QB, and people are less critical of their QB as long as the QB does enough to win.

Murray against the 49ers today looked a lot better than Stafford, Lawrence, Dak or Hurts (Hurts was especially terrible) did against them. All of those teams have better weapons, and they all attempted to score in garbage time too.

I'm sorry, but Kyler played atrocious at times and made mistakes you just can't make. Him and our D gave us no chance.

 

[Stout]

Tough to improve with that receiving corp. surely you see that.

Tough to improve when a WR breaks open and even the know-nothing announcers say the play was there but the QB waited too long and threw a pick-6, you mean? Kyler did plenty all on his own to suck.

 

[Stout]

Stop with these insightful facts don’t you know it’s all Kyler’s fault and he doesn’t have IT in some peoples eyes. Yet they put up 29 without throwing to our non existent WRs…. Lol

The excuses are already flowing, I see. When you throw a pick 6 when a receiver was open for a QB to drop back, find his guy, and throw the ball, but you hesitate and throw it too late, you're sucking. That play encapsulates his problem. He has absolutely no rhythm. Drop back, make your read, stick your foot in the grass, and get the WR the ball. That's what good QBs do when they have open receivers. Kyler hesitated, waited too long, threw the ball anyway, and had a pick 6. 100 percent on Kyler. And that wasn't the only awful play he made.

Defend that with a straight face.

 

[DaHilg]

I will say this, I've watched a lot of non Cardinals football this year. This is a defensive league, and defenses have been making most QBs look bad this season. This difference is that other non Cardinals teams also have a good defense to pair with their QB, and people are less critical of their QB as long as the QB does enough to win.

Murray against the 49ers today looked a lot better than Stafford, Lawrence, Dak or Hurts (Hurts was especially terrible) did against them. All of those teams have better weapons, and they all attempted to score in garbage time too.

This is actually a great observation…defenses have started to figure out offenses quite a bit over the last 2 seasons. The let them play between the 20’s is practiced by most as well as building out Dlines seems to be a focus more than ever… not drafting 2 ILBs like we did.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Tough to improve when a WR breaks open and even the know-nothing announcers say the play was there but the QB waited too long and threw a pick-6, you mean? Kyler did plenty all on his own to suck.

I have to agree here. And the other play where he led McBride out of bounds. If he hits him when he's coming out of his break, he's might still be running today.

The problem is that he's not/cant read the defense post snap. He's seeing a target that is open and then trying to throw him the ball. That's not going to work very often in the NFL.

To me that's why he is a much better long ball thrower. He doesn't have any post snap reads. He's seeing that its man covers and knows he got a good match up....sandlot ball....go deep johnny and when you get by the Buick the ball will be there.

 

[football karma]

for this week -- I am trying to keep the big picture in mind and that is:

The 49ers have been rolling everyone. So spending much of the second half down by 3 scores and trying to scramble back doesn't really change my perception of things going forward.

I thought Kyler did some good things and obvs -- some bad plays. It was a mix of good and bad Kyler.

On the current WR group for the Cards:

We need one of those two axis charts where avg height is the vertical measure and productivity is the horizontal. The Cards dominate the dreaded lower left.

 

[Chopper0080]

Here is my overreaction. Derrick Henry would do more for this offense than Tee Higgins would.

 

[DeAnna]

Thing is - Murray isn't improving

He seems to be regressing. A lot of the 4th qtr offense was right in front of us. #4 was wide open over the middle several times but, instead, Kyler was too busy looking at the pass rush. And when he does throw it, it's too high or wide. Poor QB play - even the 49’er fans sitting behind us were laughing at him.

 

[Hoodhero]

Here is my overreaction. Derrick Henry would do more for this offense than Tee Higgins would.

The same Derrick Henry that just had probably his worst game as Titan and talking like his career basically over in press conference?

 

[oaken1]

He seems to be regressing. A lot of the 4th qtr offense was right in front of us. #4 was wide open over the middle several times but, instead, Kyler was too busy looking at the pass rush. And when he does throw it, it's too high or wide. Poor QB play - even the 49’er fans sitting behind us were laughing at him.

you know, it only takes just a little bump towards the rail and you dont have to listen to those people any more.

 

[Ronin]

Worst defense in the league. :-(

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The same Derrick Henry that just had probably his worst game as Titan and talking like his career basically over in press conference?

Yeah, investing meaningful money in an older RB with tread worn tires would be quite the move at this point, especially for a team that has needs at nearly every position.