It wasn't luck. The Niners committed more blunders than we did and we took advantage of them. There is very little luck involved in a NFL game. It usually comes down to coaching and desire.
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It wasn't luck. The Niners committed more blunders than we did and we took advantage of them. There is very little luck involved in a NFL game. It usually comes down to coaching and desire.
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right, except for the fact that it's not on a neutral field, the Niners have completely overhauled their roster since then, with new impact starters all over the place, and their QB is now in his third year, as opposed to a rookie.
that's pretty debatable. They have a better O-line, RB, and secondary. We have a better WR core - everywhere else, it's pretty much a wash. Not sure why you think we have better talent then them. I think we matched up well with them last year, but last year was last year.
so, the only way we don't win is if we don't play like the Arizona Cardinals. Got it.
It is a big stage right up until kickoff, then it is really no different than any other game. Matt gets no edge nor does Smith based on your little theory.
right, except for the fact that it's not on a neutral field, the Niners have completely overhauled their roster since then, with new impact starters all over the place, and their QB is now in his third year, as opposed to a rookie.
And of course, the fact that Lienart is now in his second year, the revamped O line which is playing much better, the new players the Cards have added and a new coaching staff who stress mistake free football, clock management and greatly improved play calling should just be ignored. What about the fact that the Niners main offensive weapon has a bad hand and didn't play at all in preseason? Is that a positive for the Niners?
that's pretty debatable. They have a better O-line, RB, and secondary. We have a better WR core - everywhere else, it's pretty much a wash. Not sure why you think we have better talent then them. I think we matched up well with them last year, but last year was last year.
And the fact that we've beat them the last 4 times we've faced them doesn't mean anything? I think it means we have the better team. Since the Niners have added a bunch of new players, don't you think it wil take a few games for them to jell and learn about how they can compliment each other?
so, the only way we don't win is if we don't play like the Arizona Cardinals. Got it.
If we play like DG is still coach, we will loose. I don't see that happening. I think the fire in Bodin's and Wilson's eyes are contagious. We have some real leaders on this team and now is the time for them to step to the front. It's time to win.
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nope, that's all even more reason to believe the game in Mexico has nothing to do with the game on MNF - too many differences on every side of the ball for each team.
he was held out for precautionary measures the last week - and no, ultimately I don't think that will have an effect on the team.
I didn't say it didn't mean anything, just that there's a lot of differences between both teams so I don't put much stock into what's happened before.
don't we have something like 10 new starters on offense and defense? Shouldn't that apply to us as well?
I just think being on the road, against a team that I believe had a very good offseason from a personel standpoint (as opposed to us, who I think regressed on Defense and probably will look similar to the way we did in the last half of season last year on offense) is gonna be tough to overcome. I hope to be proven wrong and can't wait to see what we're "really" like when the regular season whistle blows.
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When was the last time the Cards started with a W?
Well maybe this year, their season opener happens to be on my birthday.
Well maybe this year, their season opener happens to be on my birthday.
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last year.
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I'm calling it--Cardinals dominate in this one. The D goes big
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So in other words there is no way the Cards can win this game. I guess I just won't bother to watch. Who wants to see them loose? Another season down the drain and we haven't even played our first game. Who'da thought a guy like the Whiz with more talent than this team has ever had wouldn't even be able to win a game. What a revoltin' development.
Anyone up for talking about the draft next year?
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huh? How did you get this and the ensuing tirade from this: "I just think being on the road, against a team that I believe had a very good offseason from a personel standpoint (as opposed to us, who I think regressed on Defense and probably will look similar to the way we did in the last half of season last year on offense) is gonna be tough to overcome. I hope to be proven wrong and can't wait to see what we're "really" like when the regular season whistle blows."
"Tough to overcome" doesn't mean "there's no way the Cards can win" - it's just means it's gonna be a tough game and a roadie to start the season is a daunting game for anyone, especially on MNF.
Holy Hyperbole Batman! What happened? There we were, actually having a civil back and forth convo about football and then you just totally veer off the road into hari-kari land! The Missus shut it down for the week or what 40?
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I'd actually say that's a wash too. Good run blockers but below average pass protectors. They are even worse when you consider how much play action they could use.
While we could pass protect, but couldn't run block (until the end of the year).
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Woah, I will give you Nate Clements. But who else did they add who is an impact player?
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eh, that's pretty much it - although I like Banta-Cain and their first rounder - but that was probably a little bit of hyperbole on my part.
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we've yet to show we can really do either one when the bullets are flying this year, and so if we're just going off last year, both teams gave up the same amount of sacks last season, so I don't see where we have a huge advantage there. Now, there's a new coach in town here and a different cast of characters and I like what I've seen in the preseason a lot more than I did last preseason, but it's just that - preseason. Right now we have only one known commodity when comparing these two and that's that the Niners can run the freaking ball down people's throats - we've yet to show that and until we do, I think it's folly to call the lines a wash at this point.
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You can't just look at total number of sacks, cheese. Have a look at sacks per pass attempt.
Basically, we threw the ball much more than SF did and yet we gave up the same amount of sacks.
What makes SF even worse is the fact that they also had the advantage of using play action via the run. We didn't have such an advantage.
Basically, we threw the ball much more than SF did and yet we gave up the same amount of sacks.
What makes SF even worse is the fact that they also had the advantage of using play action via the run. We didn't have such an advantage.
huh? How did you get this and the ensuing tirade from this: "I just think being on the road, against a team that I believe had a very good offseason from a personel standpoint (as opposed to us, who I think regressed on Defense and probably will look similar to the way we did in the last half of season last year on offense) is gonna be tough to overcome. I hope to be proven wrong and can't wait to see what we're "really" like when the regular season whistle blows."
"Tough to overcome" doesn't mean "there's no way the Cards can win" - it's just means it's gonna be a tough game and a roadie to start the season is a daunting game for anyone, especially on MNF.
Holy Hyperbole Batman! What happened? There we were, actually having a civil back and forth convo about football and then you just totally veer off the road into hari-kari land! The Missus shut it down for the week or what 40?
Nope, just showing you what you sound like to me.
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Really? I think its been proven time and again MNF is not just a game! Guys have huge nights and step up or do the opposite its usually VERY different than a regular game. And yes Leinart should have an advantage as he is much more seasoned in big game scenarios. A. Smith was a system QB in freaking utah, sorry that does not compare to Leinart I don't care what # you were taken overall!!!!!!
Really? I think its been proven time and again MNF is not just a game! Guys have huge nights and step up or do the opposite its usually VERY different than a regular game. And yes Leinart should have an advantage as he is much more seasoned in big game scenarios. A. Smith was a system QB in freaking utah, sorry that does not compare to Leinart I don't care what # you were taken overall!!!!!!
Cards will lose this one is a terrible fashion.
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^ What?
Mulli's trying to sound like cheesebeef's signature line! LOL!
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