Premise: Rebuilding With Nash

[Mainstreet]

Assuming Nash remains the face of the franchise... like it or not. Would doing what Nash suggests and addressing what Paul Coro observes elevate the Suns while they apparently start transitioning to the future? It seems the Suns want to make as near a seamless entry into the future as possible.

Nash said the team needs to add defenders, specifically "a couple active big guys who could take up a lot of space with their athleticism and energy."

That is not Shaquille O'Neal and has not been Amaré Stoudemire.

If Nash's defense is leaving them vulnerable on the ball, an adjustment will be needed behind him by replacing O'Neal and/or Stoudemire or alongside him with Jason Richardson, who Kerr feels can be a better defender.

If the Tyson Chandler trade worked out for Shaq, IMO, the Suns should consider adding another mobile big man in the draft and another PG to develop. Maybe the Suns get back into title contention but more likely they prepare the plate for the future.

See article from Paul Coro dated April 16th from azcentral.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/04/16/20090416sunsoffseason0417.html

 

[lou_skywalker]

I totally agree. Right now we can only have a compromise coz nobody is ready to blow up our core and rebuild completely. The Chandler trade is a good start to a smoother transition and would keep both the management and the fans happy suppose they continue to win games.

 

[green machine]

That's the funny thing, though, they need mobile and athletic bigs to make up for Nash's inability to stay in front of his man.

 

[lou_skywalker]

That's the funny thing, though, they need mobile and athletic bigs to make up for Nash's inability to stay in front of his man.

well nobody forced Kerr to choose Nash as the face of the franchise

 

[elindholm]

Doesn't everyone want athletic mobile big men who can cover for poor wing defense? It's not exactly a buyer's market for those players.

 

[lou_skywalker]

Doesn't everyone want athletic mobile big men who can cover for poor wing defense? It's not exactly a buyer's market for those players.

while some abnormal GM aka Kerr traded for Shaq to have a "strong low post presence"

 

[elindholm]

while some abnormal GM aka Kerr traded for Shaq to have a "strong low post presence"

Well that was for offense, obviously. It was already clear that Stoudemire wasn't a reliable low-post option and the team was having trouble getting high-percentage shots in crunch time.

 

[Covert Rain]

Well that was for offense, obviously. It was already clear that Stoudemire wasn't a reliable low-post option and the team was having trouble getting high-percentage shots in crunch time.

It was also to improve in the paint defense. The Suns were bottom feeders in the NBA pre-Shaq. They are the 4th best paint defense in the NBA. I don't see what is so abnormal about wanting to improve that.

NO is horrilbe in paint defense. If they get Shaq...that's exactly what they are getting him for. You won't have to worry about perimeter defense with Chris Paul out there and he doesn't let guys drive by him like a McDonald's drive through like Nash.

 

[jandaman]

Its a win win for Hornets and Suns, but you have to convince the GMs and not the fans.


Lopez is a good shot blocker, I can see a Chris Andersen type of player in him given minutes, basically 5-6 rebounds with 2 to 2.5 blocks a game. Put him in there to alter shots.

Chandler just needs to play games, as opposed to be on the bench. People say he hasnt really missed much games. But as a member of my fantasy team, seeing him play 8 minute games and put up 2 points and 2 rebounds KILLED my big men rotation. So yeah he seems to play games, but its all about playing PRODUCTIVELY and atleast 30 minutes for those games.

 

[devilalum]

Nash is not a bad defender for lack of effort, he just can't stay in front of younger quicker guys. Nash also knows this. I'm sure he would like to add players that compensate for his shortcomings so he can continue to do what he does best.

 

[SunsFanVegas]

Nash is not a bad defender for lack of effort, he just can't stay in front of younger quicker guys. Nash also knows this. I'm sure he would like to add players that compensate for his shortcomings so he can continue to do what he does best.

Finally, someone that see's Nash as still being productive and not just bashing him and wanting to see him traded. You don't think he himself knows he can't keep in front of younger players. He's admitted as much and knows with the right help, he can still be a very productive player for the Suns.

 

[jandaman]

Nash is a bad defender because the opponents point guard have their way every time they go against the Suns.

You can say, Nash's effort is "okay".

but results is obviously "fail".

And in everyday life/work, you will know or would know, that its all about results...

So looking at "results"... Yes Nash is a bad defender, no matter his effort.

 

[Covert Rain]

Nash is not a bad defender for lack of effort, he just can't stay in front of younger quicker guys. Nash also knows this. I'm sure he would like to add players that compensate for his shortcomings so he can continue to do what he does best.

The problem is that if your PG constantly gets driven around, no matter how mobile your big men are...they are still going to get in foul trouble. Nash's bad defense makes the entire team worse in that regard.

 

[Skkorpion]

A premise containing both words "Nash" and "rebuild" is an oxymoron.

 

[Covert Rain]

A premise containing both words "Nash" and "rebuild" is an oxymoron.

If your keeping Nash and Amare and most of the roster intact...this would be a retool. Not a rebuild. Rebuilding around Nash would just prove how horrible of a front office the Sun's now have.

Prediciton: Suns Roster makes one trade (probably Shaq), keeps most of roster together. We will suck at defense AGAIN. Lead the league in turnovers AGAIN. We will miss the playoffs or make the playoffs and get bounced early...AGAIN.

 

[slinslin]

Why retool, the Suns are always "retooling" never rebuilding...