Raptors @ Suns

[Griffin]

I guess no game thread until after the game.

Glad we pulled this one out despite not playing that well. Good games from Nash, Amare and Frye. Frye with 6 three-pointers again.

 

[dodie53]

everyone was busy.

 

[dodie53]

a win is a win

 

[atikiN]

Was watching a Toronto feed, boy do they love Steve Nash up there.

 

[Mainstreet]

Anyone know why Dragic did not get more playing time? I think he only got 5 minutes. I didn't get a chance to watch the first half.

Also: Dudley = Defense

 

[Sunburn]

Anyone know why Dragic did not get more playing time? I think he only got 5 minutes. I didn't get a chance to watch the first half.

Also: Dudley = Defense

Dragic played very ineffectively so Gentry yanked him.

No game thread until after the game? What is going on with Suns fans?

 

[cly2tw]

Maybe fans took this game for granted.
I watched online from 2nd q. on. Amare was aggressive attacking the rim, when he gets involved on offense. For some reason, from 2nd to middle of 3rd, Nash kept the ball deliberately away from Amare and dribbled ineffectively for too long. During the process, Amare's defensive attention suffered from offensive frustration without touching the ball and Bosh got a couple easy ones rolling to the basket.
To make it worse, LB reverted to his DA antics and chuckling and heads down drives. Only after Gentry and Nash finally came to their sense and re-integrated Amare in the offense again did we start a comeback. They went to Amare almost everytime in the 4th. And he made several passes on the high posts with good results aside from scoring inside at will himself.

I don't know whether it's the reported difference between Amare and Gentry about his play in the Lakers game or Nash wanting to spread the wealth to please everybody. It backfired and almost cost us a game.

 

[nashman]

Yeah cly thats it Nash kept the ball from Amare are you kidding with this crap?

 

[Black Jesus]

Dudley is awesome. We have a likeable Suns team again!

 

[dodie53]

the suns are always likeable

 

[Yuma]

Watched the whole game. Dudley = Kurt Rambis! Loved his hustle. I hope our other guys show up against Houston. Both Hill and Richardson had off nights. That shouldn't happen again, hopefully.

 

[cly2tw]

Watched the whole game. Dudley = Kurt Rambis! Loved his hustle. I hope our other guys show up against Houston. Both Hill and Richardson had off nights. That shouldn't happen again, hopefully.

They've had two off nights in a roll now, and at the same time. And LB is reverting to his DA style again when trusted with ball handling.

We really need some more good players/shooters. How come we never could get Lowry, Aflalo, etc on the cheap at the rate they went to another team!

 

[TJ]

Maybe fans took this game for granted.
I watched online from 2nd q. on. Amare was aggressive attacking the rim, when he gets involved on offense. For some reason, from 2nd to middle of 3rd, Nash kept the ball deliberately away from Amare and dribbled ineffectively for too long. During the process, Amare's defensive attention suffered from offensive frustration without touching the ball and Bosh got a couple easy ones rolling to the basket.
To make it worse, LB reverted to his DA antics and chuckling and heads down drives. Only after Gentry and Nash finally came to their sense and re-integrated Amare in the offense again did we start a comeback. They went to Amare almost everytime in the 4th. And he made several passes on the high posts with good results aside from scoring inside at will himself.

I don't know whether it's the reported difference between Amare and Gentry about his play in the Lakers game or Nash wanting to spread the wealth to please everybody. It backfired and almost cost us a game.

That is one hell of an assertion and you are way off base my friend. Nash would never intentionally neglect STAT the ball unless he wasnt open or there was someone in a better position to make a play. Would you rather have STAT force a bunch of shots or Frye hit six 3's? The goal of a TEAM is to play unselfishly and work together to get wins. Not pad individual stats.

 

[cly2tw]

That is one hell of an assertion and you are way off base my friend. Nash would never intentionally neglect STAT the ball unless he wasnt open or there was someone in a better position to make a play. Would you rather have STAT force a bunch of shots or Frye hit six 3's? The goal of a TEAM is to play unselfishly and work together to get wins. Not pad individual stats.

Did you watch the game? If not, just do it. Nash has a motto that says "spreading the wealth", that's explanation right there. When nothing else works, you gotta stick to your gun more consistently. It's not like STAT's is not passing the ball or doing bad shot selection out there.

 

[dodie53]

why can't the suns just feed the beast first then spread the wealth second?

 

[hora]

Did you watch the game? If not, just do it. Nash has a motto that says "spreading the wealth", that's explanation right there. When nothing else works, you gotta stick to your gun more consistently. It's not like STAT's is not passing the ball or doing bad shot selection out there.

I did watch the game and what I saw was that when they got the Amare-Calderon mismatch and fed the ball in to Amare, Calderon stole the ball twice and also drew an offensive foul.

 

[cly2tw]

I did watch the game and what I saw was that when they got the Amare-Calderon mismatch and fed the ball in to Amare, Calderon stole the ball twice and also drew an offensive foul.

Here is the detailed defense game log from Raps view point. See the success rate of Amare getting involved vs. when he was not. And when Nash challenged Bargs or Bosh late in the game at Raps switch, which left Calderon on Amare. You don't tell me that Amare disappeared on his own in the 2nd quarter there.
From Amare's TOs, two were going out of bounds after rebound or so. The late offensive foul call on him was his fault for using the off arm unnecessarily. He mostly held onto the ball and got great results around the basket.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=958798

 

[nashman]

Cly not sure what your watching but Amare does still take some bad shots, turns the ball over and did a few times in that 2nd qtr. Nash makes the right decisions when to go to someone else or not, they won again and Nash was a major reason why! This team will NOT WIN if they just let Amare try to force it everytime his hands for some reason seem much worse than they use to be, I cringe anytime he even has to dribble for christ sake! How you always try to find something to knock Nash for is comical and just borderline ridiculous.

 

[Bufalay]

How you always try to find something to knock Nash for is comical and just borderline ridiculous.

Watch it. As everyone knows, Cly:Nash :: Nashman:Amare

 

[DeAnna]

I only got to watch the 4th qtr. Was at the Cardinals game - traffic getting from stadium back to Gilbert was horrendous due to Nascar.

I thought the game was in Toronto since the arena looked so empty.

 

[DeAnna]

Watch it. As everyone knows, Cly:Nash :: Nashman:Amare

 

[Superbone]

why can't the suns just feed the beast first then spread the wealth second?

Because you take what the defense gives you.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Nice got lucky but I will take this win, the raptors are a solid team i'm schocked as hell that Hedo missed that shot looked good all way....but hey we got lucky and won the game so it's a good feeling. Great Sunday though Cardinals beat the Seahawks, and the suns beat the raptors .

 

[cly2tw]

Watch it. As everyone knows, Cly:Nash :: Nashman:Amare

How far this team goes in the playoffs depends on how well Amare plays, while Nash is in general the reliable factor as long as his body holds up. If Nash is just content to make the role players on the team happy while not giving Amare chances to learn from failure, then his own chance of winning a title is doomed by this very deed. It is that simple. I like Nash, a lot. That's why I'm harsh on him.

Sloan would have prepared his team to take full advantage of that mismatch on low post. It shouldn't have taken several times in a roll for Nash to fail to score one-on-one on Bargnani before they change strategy. Stockton would have played differently in those switch situations.

 

[nashman]

Stockton had a smart player in Malone that knew what to do in those situations