joeshmo said:
Do you even know what a nagging injury is Spanky.
They are pulls and sprains. Which is what Starks and Tommy Knight had. Nagging injuries is a term for players who can play but are in to much "Pain" or what they think is to much pain, or hinder their performance when they do play. Or better known as Tommy Knight syndrome. None of that refers to Ray Lewis, none. You dont go on IR for nagging injuries.
Lewis two injuries are not nagging injuries. If they were nagging injuries then Boldins 2 knee surgeries are just nagging injuries as well.
First I said he only had so called nagging injury last year, not years. Second my original response was according to your comment that he has had nagging injuries of 2 years, your perimeters not mine. He didnt have any injuries in 2004 hence me telling you your original arguement of injuries(or Injury) the last two years was wrong. Is that really to hard to understand.
Ray had to season ending injuries, one from making a huge hit seperating his shoulder, and the other driving a OL during a play. Those are freak injuries that anyone of perfect health can have. It does not mean they are injury prone or will hinder their performance later on.
As for me playing with stats. I do my research. If you dont like the way I use them, then prove me wrong on them, its as simple as that.
joeshmo,
Alright......Lewis' injuries were not "nagging". I was trying to be gentle on him.
You are correct, his injuries were severe enough to be season ending, two of the last three years.......isn't that worse than "nagging"? Being put on IR for two of the last three years is a trend line that any coach would be concerned about if they were thinking about the signing of a player. I know I would be concerned, especially if I were contemplating signing him to a mega dollar contract (which is what it would take BTW).
Forget the sub plot that you and I are currently on. This thread's premise is about the wisdom of going after Lewis in the off season. Nothing more, nothing less. And furthermore, he isn't even a FA. If he hits the market, it will require something in return....something big in return. And I am against this.
Secondly, I find it convenient that you did not acknowledge that he has missed out on more than 30% of games during the last three years. This is a stat that I thought would hit home to you. I guess not. Freak injury or otherwise, this is a fact. Entering his 11th year, being 31 in May of '06 and having this undeniable injury record in recent years is a bellweather that spells trouble. A player like Lewis reaches his prime between 26/27 and 30. That he has been "out of play" for as much as he has been is not a good sign.
I have no problem with you and stats.....just the opposite...and I have often applauded you with your use of them to support your position on a post response.
Again joeshmo....let's return to the big picture here and quit splitting hairs over the term "nagging" and return to the meat of this thread......Ray Lewis was once the dominant LB in football and his reign lasted for six or so years. But he is in the twi-light of his career. To belly up to the bar with a mega contract is not in the best interests of the Cardinals. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
Go ahead...take another shot at the wisdom of my thinking if you wish, but as I said last night, I'm done with this thread. I'll look forward to talking to you on another.
Regards, Spanky1