RB Edge

[artp]

Can I ask a stats guy to put RB Edge in the all time Cardinal RB statistics? After only 3 yrs that were considered questionable, I bet Edge's 3000 plus yds are close to the top of all - time Cardinal running backs.

 

[Ryanwb]

Ottis Anderson holds the record with 7,999 (easy to remember). I have no idea where everyone else stacks up, but you may be correct in your assessment

 

[Gee!]

Interesting.. Leinart is #8 on all time pass yards (game) in franchise history.. Warner does make his first appearence until around #30 (didnt wanna count down that far)..

http://www.azcardinals.com/nm_files/indrecords(3).pdf

 

[Gee!]

And from that same link is the rushing stats you were looking for..

Total Rushing Yards
Career
7,999..... Ottis Anderson, 1979–86
4,649..... Stump Mitchell, 1981–89
3,863..... Jim Otis, 1973–78
3,608..... Johnny Roland, 1966–72
3,511..... Charley Trippi, 1947–55
3,489..... John David Crow, 1958–64
3,438..... Terry Metcalf, 1973–77
3,373.....Wayne Morris, 1976–83

 

[moklerman]

Edge certainly had one of the better back-to-back stretches for the Cardinals but his all-time totals as a Card aren't very high:

 

[Duckjake]

James had 3,131 yards rushing for the Cards according to Profootball-reference.com. That includes post season.

Edge is the franchise leader in post season rushing yards with 236.

 

[Carddan]

I think Moklerman got his stats here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/career-rushing.htm
Really good stuff...Edge is 6th in all-time attempts for the Cardinals.

 

[moklerman]

Edit: Oops, reading comprehension issues.

 

[moklerman]

I think Moklerman got his stats here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/career-rushing.htm
Really good stuff...Edge is 6th in all-time attempts for the Cardinals.

You're right, didn't think to post the link. Of course, the day I go to the trouble of fabricating a chart of this much information is the day I want someone to shoot me.

The real knock on Edge's historical place in Cardinals annals is that he has the worst ypc of any of the 12 guys in front of him in yardage.

 

[Duckjake]

You're right, didn't think to post the link. Of course, the day I go to the trouble of fabricating a chart of this much information is the day I want someone to shoot me.

The real knock on Edge's historical place in Cardinals annals is that he has the worst ypc of any of the 12 guys in front of him in yardage.

Unbelievable that Stump Mitchell is the most recent RB ahead of him with the highest total. Stump last played in 1989. 20 years ago.

Earl Ferrell also last played 20 years ago.

 

[moklerman]

Unbelievable that Stump Mitchell is the most recent RB ahead of him with the highest total. Stump last played in 1989. 20 years ago.

Earl Ferrell also last played 20 years ago.

The other thing to consider about this list is that Edge getting himself in the doghouse cost him at least two places in rank. Even at 3.6 ypc he would have been top 10 in yardage if he'd played a full season in 2008.

I still don't feel too sorry for him though. In the final analysis, the approach he took to the whole situation is what cost him on the statline. If he'd been willing to take a Jerome Bettis approach to his twilight time I think the team would have gladly kept him around. No way they want to rush Hightower or now Wells into service and Edge could have had a nice 15 carries a game in 2009. That's all he's going to get anywhere else anyway so he's going to take less money to get fewer carries. I just don't get it.

 

[Carddan]

If he'd been willing to take a Jerome Bettis approach to his twilight time I think the team would have gladly kept him around. No way they want to rush Hightower or now Wells into service and Edge could have had a nice 15 carries a game in 2009. That's all he's going to get anywhere else anyway so he's going to take less money to get fewer carries. I just don't get it.

When I consider where Edge has been this last year in his personal life, and remember a similiar time in my own, I have no problem accepting that I can't figure him out. Edge has been somewhere that makes career, money and fame of little value. Perhaps he just needed a change, I can relate to that. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play football again, although for his sake I hope and think he will.

 

[Goldfield]

Edge averaged 64 yards per game 2nd on that list. There is no doubt we tried to run the ball regardless of yards per carry.

 

[Ryanwb]

That's actually pretty pathetic folks.... nobody has cracked the top 10 in 20 years.

 

[Goldfield]

very.

 

[moklerman]

That's actually pretty pathetic folks.... nobody has cracked the top 10 in 20 years.

Believe it or not, I try and stay away from stuff that happened prior to 2004 because I have no clout but it will hopefully by recognized by the long-timers around her just how special this time in Cardinals history is.

I feel I can relate to some degree because of most of my Rams watching days being pretty pathetic (1980-200?). Even when they were a consistent playoff team in the '80's it was a bit of a mirage. They would always get there but it was never close in terms of getting to the Super Bowl. Chicago, Washington, SF all blew...BLEW the Rams out of the water.

Apples and oranges compared to always losing but from '90-'99 they were the worst team in the league coming off of the dubious Jim Everett years so I feel like I actually do know of the pain of perception when your team is not only bad but in the case of the Rams, the "same ol' sorry ass Rams".

Anyway, my point to all of this is that it doesn't and won't take long to start getting some respectable career numbers for someone at RB. With the relative youth on offense and the projected future success at QB, the RB spot will become one of at least consistency with Wells.

 

[Ryanwb]

What's really sad is that a guy would be in the top 10 by having 2 1500 yard seasons which aren't too rare in the league these days

 

[TheCardFan]

What stands out to me is yards per game avg.

Only 1 guy has averaged more than 65yards/game on that list.

Sad...sad running history.

 

[Duckjake]

What stands out to me is yards per game avg.

Only 1 guy has averaged more than 80yards/game on that list.

Sad...sad running history.

Mostly due to poor scouting of RB talent. If you look at the guys the Cards have drafted over the last 35 years only a very few did anything for the Cardinals.

The Cards misses on 2nd round running backs is worthy of mention in Ripley's believe it or not. It dates all the way back to 1975 and Jim Germany of New Mexico State.

Drafted by the NFL's St. Louis Cardinals in 1975, in the 2nd round, 46th overall, he never played in the NFL and came to Canada.

Tony Jeffrey: career stats: 3 carries for 20 yards. Out of NFL after 1 season.

Anthony Thompson: Avg 25.8 ypg for Cards out of NFL after 2.5 seasons.

Chuck Levy 3 carries for 15 yards for Cards. Out of NFL after 3 seasons

Leland McElroy 24.3 ypg avg. Out of NFL after 2 seasons

At least we got some good kick returns out of Arrington and at least he's still in the NFL.

Also Theotis Brown who was a short yardage back. Only lasted 2 seasons with the Cards but had a decent 6 year career. Why the Cards took him in round 2 after selecting OJ Anderson in round one I have no idea.

 

[Camshaft]

2007 media guide

Interesting.. Leinart is #8 on all time pass yards (game) in franchise history.. Warner does make his first appearence until around #30 (didnt wanna count down that far)..

http://www.azcardinals.com/nm_files/indrecords(3).pdf

This is the 2007 media guide. It does not have 2007 or 2008 stats.

 

[Duckjake]

This is the 2007 media guide. It does not have 2007 or 2008 stats.

Warner is now #2 and #3 behind Boomer Esiason's 522 yards.

34-48-484 vs SF in 2007
46-57-472 vs Jets in 2008

The Cards scored 66 points total and still lost both games.

They also lost the games ranked #4,5,and 6.

 

[moklerman]

Warner is now #2 and #3 behind Boomer Esiason's 522 yards.

34-48-484 vs SF in 2007
46-57-472 vs Jets in 2008

The Cards scored 66 points total and still lost both games.

They also lost the games ranked #4,5,and 6.

I'm pretty sure Boomer wasn't real fond of his time in Arizona and that most fans feel the same about him but it's sure easy to forget that the guy was a Super Bowl QB as well as a league MVP. I generally never think of him as one of the greats but he could certainly be mentioned as one.

 

[CardLogic]

It is interesting that four (4) of the top 24 RB's Cardinals backs of all time played on the team in the same backfield...

#5 Charlie Trippi '47-'54
#11 Elmer Angsman '46-'52
#13 Pat Harder '46-'50
#24 Marshall Goldberg '39-'48

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"The Dream Backfield"
Left to right: QB, Paul Christman, and RB's Pat Harder, Marshall Goldberg, Charlie Trippi

 

[Duckjake]

I'm pretty sure Boomer wasn't real fond of his time in Arizona and that most fans feel the same about him but it's sure easy to forget that the guy was a Super Bowl QB as well as a league MVP. I generally never think of him as one of the greats but he could certainly be mentioned as one.

I'll have to disagree to some extent. My daughter's NFL flag football team won the 12-14 Girls' National Championship in 2006. They had won the Arizona regional and as such represented the Arizona Cardinals at Nationals.

Boomer was at Nationals as part of NFL Networks' coverage of the event. He took a special interest in our team because it was the Cardinals.

trout: get your mind out of the gutter. )

 

[Duckjake]

It is interesting that four (4) of the top 24 RB's Cardinals backs of all time played on the team in the same backfield...

#5 Charlie Trippi '47-'54
#11 Elmer Angsman '46-'52
#13 Pat Harder '46-'50
#24 Marshall Goldberg '39-'48

Because of Bill Bidwill's miser reputation and the # of years that have passed people forget that the Cards were a decent team before moving to Arizona and being ruined by the new free agency and SDS.

From 1963-1970 the GridBirds posted seasons of 9-5, 9-3-2, 8-5-1, 9-4-1, and 8-5-1. Including my #1 favorite Cardinals game until last year, the 38-0 whitewash of the Cowboys on Monday Night in 1970.

Of course we all know about Coryell's run in the mid 70's.

And then there were the Lomax/Green years peaking in 1984 when Lomax threw for 4,614 yards, Cards RBs combined for over 2000 yards rushing and Green had 78 catches for 1,555 (#3 all time) yards and 12 TDs. That team set the franchise record for points scored (423) that was broken just last season.