RB Shonn Green

[Goldfield]

This is a guy I like a lot. He is reminds me a lot of a Boldin running the ball. He likes to punish defenders. Has lots of heart, and runs people over.

Here is a write up of Greene fron "nfldraftdog.com"

Green has the physical skills to be a bell-cow runner in the NFL. He has great size and bulk at 5’ 11” 235 pounds and is a physical, inside runner. A low center of gravity, elite flexibility and an ability to squeeze through holes makes Green very tough to bring down. While lacking elite top end speed, Green does possess the burst and acceleration to turn the corner and break into daylight. He may not run away from anyone, but neither did Hall of Famer Emmett Smith. He has massive, thick, strong legs and he runs low and attacks the hole, lowering his shoulder, falling forward and fighting for extra yardage. The one thing that stands out the most is Green’s tenacity in finishing his runs. Green looks for and relishes contact. He is the type of runner who gets better as the game goes on and wears down a defence. Even with his physical running style, Green has been very reliable holding onto the football and rarely puts it on the ground. Despite relative inexperience, Green is an exceptional pass protector who gives maximum effort.

Questions about his maturity and ability to pick up a playbook will come into play as he gets scrutinized but it appears that that stuff is behind him now. His biggest knock will be his lack of top end speed but he quells those concerns with explosiveness through the hole and a physical running style. He’s no burner but if paired with a more elusive back he can be a 300-carry runner who stays in on passing downs thanks to his pass blocking. He appears to have decent hands but has not been a big factor in catching the ball as he needs more experience running routes and won’t outrun too many linebackers. He only had one great season and his advanced age will cause some concern that his shelf life will be short.

While a potential first round pick, Green is much more likely to be one of the first picks of the second round. His best bet for a first round selection is the Cardinals at #31. More likely he ends up in Cleveland at #36 or in Cincinnati at #38. Green is the perfect cold weather runner and would be a great replacement for Jamal Lewis in Cleveland or Rudi Johnson in Cincinnati as the Bengals did not adequately replace him last year. The Hawkeyes utilized a zone blocking scheme, similar to the Denver Broncos used while under Shannahan, Green is a master of the cut back and fits beautifully in that scheme. Whoever drafts him is getting a potential franchise back.

Here is some Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWZwH9VVJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKZP6d-WP7E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB09ZcOE_co&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9UVHTamf6w&feature=related

Power, vision, enough speed. 2nd or 3rd rounder.

 

[LittleDavis]

I have been on board with this for some time. Good call.

 

[SuperSpck]

Pretty decent discussion here:

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/rb-prospect-shonn-green-126024.html?highlight=Shonn+Green

 

[the_future23]

I am not a fan of physical running backs simply because the linebackers and lineman are more physical than they are.

I want McCoy or Moreno.

 

[Zeno]

He did put up some impressive numbers but he had only 11 recptions in 3 years, is it because he is not a good receiver out of the backfield or is it because of the offense he played in? I have to think any RB in a Cardinal offense should be expected to be able to catch the ball on occasion.

 

[Big Deal]

defence, LOL!

 

[vinnymac]

What I like about Green(according to the You Tube) is that he is patience & sets up his blocker. Not bad in my book.

 

[LittleDavis]

I am not a fan of physical running backs simply because the linebackers and lineman are more physical than they are.

I want McCoy or Moreno.

I think we need a power back to wear down the D. Then Hightower can do his thing. Hightower is more like Moreno. My opinion.

 

[Perfectionist]

I think we need a power back to wear down the D. Then Hightower can do his thing. Hightower is more like Moreno. My opinion.

I agree about a power back. Seems like a great fit with Hightower and Wright to fill in on third downs. Not sure we would take him in the first round though.

 

[LittleDavis]

I agree about a power back. Seems like a great fit with Hightower and Wright to fill in on third downs. Not sure we would take him in the first round though.

He should be there in the second.

 

[Goldfield]

as a second, he is a good back IMO.

 

[SuperSpck]

Here's an offbeat question.
Why isn't he good enough to be a first?
Would you spend a first on Dansby?
Dockett?
Wilson?
Boldin?

The answer is, with hindsight sure. At the time, not so much.

The first and second round have got to be close to interchangeable.

I'm wishy washy about the 3rd round.

The whole thing baffles me.

I do it all the time. So and so isn't worth it there. Why?

 

[az jam]

My concern is that he is slow and really fills the same role that Hightower does. Hightower is our power, short yardage back. We need a speedster to break long runs to go with Hightower. Coach Whis will follow the Steeler model with Bettis & Parker. Hightower fills the Bettis role but we need a breakaway back with speed to fill the Parker role. That is not Green.

 

[Shogun]

I am not a fan of physical running backs simply because the linebackers and lineman are more physical than they are.

I want McCoy or Moreno.

If you don't like physical backs then why are you a fan of Moreno.....?

 

[LittleDavis]

My concern is that he is slow and really fills the same role that Hightower does. Hightower is our power, short yardage back. We need a speedster to break long runs to go with Hightower. Coach Whis will follow the Steeler model with Bettis & Parker. Hightower fills the Bettis role but we need a breakaway back with speed to fill the Parker role. That is not Green.

Hightower(6', 224lbs.) is almost the same size as Moreno(5'11, 217lbs)...Bettis played at (5'11 and 255lbs).. Also, Hightower(4.56) had a slightly better 40 time than Moreno(4.61). We'll see when Moreno has his pro day.

 

[Shogun]

I do it all the time. So and so isn't worth it there. Why?

Risk, value and comparable talent. Why would you take a player who you feel has a limited ceiling in the earlier rounds (where the primetime guys typically come from) when there were comparable, if not better talent at the same and different positions?

For example, who would you take out these three players?

Player A - Grades out to be an average player on the next level, but plays a position of primary need. There are similarly graded prospects of the same position on the board and you are confident that one of them will be available next go round.

Player B - Grades out to be boom-or-bust player. He is slipping down the draft for some reason, but there aren't as many players of his talent at his position.

Player C - Grades out an above average player at a position that of non-need, but is clearly the highest rated guy on the board.

And to your question about the players, Dansby was easily good enough to be a first round pick but barely missed the cut. If Dockett didn't have character red flags he would have definitely would have been in that conversation.

 

[Shogun]

Hightower(6', 224lbs.) is almost the same size as Moreno(5'11, 217lbs)...Bettis played at (5'11 and 255lbs).. Also, Hightower(4.56) had a slightly better 40 time than Moreno(4.61). We'll see when Moreno has his pro day.

His comparison via playing styles, not physical attributes. Breadtruck is the thumper/short-yard back a la Marion Barber (where he is best at), where Moreno would fill the primary back who can turn lemons into lemonade.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

The combine didn't go well for him. I'd rather have Donald Brown now.

 

[SuperSpck]

Risk, value and comparable talent. Why would you take a player who you feel has a limited ceiling in the earlier rounds (where the primetime guys typically come from) when there were comparable, if not better talent at the same and different positions?

For example, who would you take out these three players?

Player A - Grades out to be an average player on the next level, but plays a position of primary need. There are similarly graded prospects of the same position on the board and you are confident that one of them will be available next go round.

Player B - Grades out to be boom-or-bust player. He is slipping down the draft for some reason, but there aren't as many players of his talent at his position.

Player C - Grades out an above average player at a position that of non-need, but is clearly the highest rated guy on the board.

And to your question about the players, Dansby was easily good enough to be a first round pick but barely missed the cut. If Dockett didn't have character red flags he would have definitely would have been in that conversation.

Nicely explained sir, thank you.

 

[sinsay]

same thing

Here's an offbeat question.
Why isn't he good enough to be a first?
Would you spend a first on Dansby?
Dockett?
Wilson?
Boldin?

The answer is, with hindsight sure. At the time, not so much.

The first and second round have got to be close to interchangeable.

I'm wishy washy about the 3rd round.

The whole thing baffles me.

Baffles me as well people said the same thing about Bob Sanders of the colts. Most everyone said he could be a good player but no one wanted to draft him in the first round.

I do it all the time. So and so isn't worth it there. Why?

Baffles me as well people said the same thing about Bob Sanders of the colts. Most everyone said he could be a good player but no one wanted to draft him in the first round.

 

[Shogun]

Baffles me as well people said the same thing about Bob Sanders of the colts. Most everyone said he could be a good player but no one wanted to draft him in the first round.

He was a freaking midget in-the-box safety that struggled in coverage. Short DBs who can't cover consistently are rarely, if ever, graded as first round talent regardless of college production.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What I like about Green(according to the You Tube) is that he is patience & sets up his blocker. Not bad in my book.

When you're as slow as Green is, you can't help but be patient.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Baffles me as well people said the same thing about Bob Sanders of the colts. Most everyone said he could be a good player but no one wanted to draft him in the first round.

If Buster Davis was 6' he'd been a 1st round draft pick,just ask him .

 

[cgolden]

When you're as slow as Green is, you can't help but be patient.

Yep, I don't know why but nothing about this guy really interests me. Don't we already have a physical runner who's patient but lacks top end speed. Not to mention all of the off the field concerns with Greene.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Zone Blocking?

Does any college teams run more of the power run that the Cardinals want to use ?