RB Tim Hightower?

[Stout]

I would have traded up in the 3rd to select Jamaal Charles, it would have been a great draft w/ just DRC, Campbell & Charles, I could have handled the other 3 picks as long as we ended up with those 3 in Round 1-3.

See, you nailed it for me, although I'd have taken Smith in Rd 3.

 

[Stout]

If you can call pretty much anyone a reach in the 5th round. Name players don't always work out either, especially if they're there in the 5th round. It's usually for some reasons.

We definately didn't do any reaching in the first three rounds. That might be kind of a record for us.

Very much agree. It is simply so frustrating for me, though, to watch one of the deepest RB classes of recent memory pass us by, and we have to settle for Hightower out of Richmond. Not even a speed guy the team told us it wanted. I apologize for sounding bitter, but all this optimism in the face of our utter failure to get one of the good RB prospects just isn't enough for me.

 

[PoolBoy]

despite the whining by cbus and cardsfanmd and others, i think we have edge's replacement for when he retires. i really think this kid will burst onto the scene. this year he can be primarly a spell for edge and a goal line guy, but i DO think he can be a homerun threat. i really am liking this pick the more i see about it.

 

[Sandan]

Maybe they were BSing a bit Stout

 

[WildBB]

Very much agree. It is simply so frustrating for me, though, to watch one of the deepest RB classes of recent memory pass us by, and we have to settle for Hightower out of Richmond. Not even a speed guy the team told us it wanted. I apologize for sounding bitter, but all this optimism in the face of our utter failure to get one of the good RB prospects just isn't enough for me.

Mendenhall would have been nice. But I'm pumped about Campbell too. Good draft IMO.

I'm sure they wanted a RB in the 3rd but didn't have that opportunity and the first teams there must not have taken any offers. Choice was the highest rated then and they didn't like him. Hightower will be every bit as good as him.
Plus Carthon can work with him. He likes him.

 

[Sandan]

Anybody catch Wiz saying he seems good at pass blocking

 

[CtCardinals78]

See, you nailed it for me, although I'd have taken Smith in Rd 3.

I know some in here don't agree but Docuet was a sick pickup and will be our best rookie this season. Something about that guy. I loved our draft and the first three picks. I know some of you guys are concerned but this was a really good draft for us and we are going to be pleasently surprised by at least two players and one will meet our expectations (good). Be happy this is a GREAT day to be a Cards fan.

 

[Stout]

Maybe they were BSing a bit Stout

I hope not. If they don't believe we need talented speed at the RB position, then I'd have to question their sanity. Shipp, while he has a great heart, doesn't have anything in the tank. JJ simply isn't any good; definition of speed without talent. Edge is a solid back, but he isn't as fast as he used to be and was never a burner. It sounds like pumping sunshine when I hear our own coaches saying he (Hightower) might not time fast but 'plays' fast, although I hope they are 100 percent correct.

Heck, I'll be on board with this kid. He's an uderdog with a great nickname. What's not to root for? I just question how we failed to get a good RB out of this draft.

 

[Sandan]

Well I am a long way from the most knowledgeable here but try this for size.

We are planning on being explosive in the passing game and this kid is supposed to be able to block.

What we really needed has a meat grinder to shorten games and leave winning them to Q and Fitz.

 

[Stout]

Well I am a long way from the most knowledgeable here but try this for size.

We are planning on being explosive in the passing game and this kid is supposed to be able to block.

What we really needed has a meat grinder to shorten games and leave winning them to Q and Fitz.

That would be a complete change in philosophy from what Whis wants, but I'd be on board with it for now. It would show our coach is smart enough to play to our strengths and to not try and force a change overnight. The concern then becomes our speed on the outside. Do we have enough speed at the WR position to do this? Adding Early will help in terms of possession receiving, but what about fly patterns and taking it to the house? As much as I love Fitz, he is clearly not that guy. He'll make big catches down the field, but he hasn't been the home-run threat we need. Who fills that role for us?

 

[Shane]

That would be a complete change in philosophy from what Whis wants, but I'd be on board with it for now. It would show our coach is smart enough to play to our strengths and to not try and force a change overnight. The concern then becomes our speed on the outside. Do we have enough speed at the WR position to do this? Adding Early will help in terms of possession receiving, but what about fly patterns and taking it to the house? As much as I love Fitz, he is clearly not that guy. He'll make big catches down the field, but he hasn't been the home-run threat we need. Who fills that role for us?

Its obvious that with the roster as is it will have to be Rector or Breaston. Either they step up and do so or we go without. We averaged 25 points a game with out any burners. The offense doesnt "need" one to be successful.

 

[Stout]

Its obvious that with the roster as is it will have to be Rector or Breaston. Either they step up and do so or we go without. We averaged 25 points a game with out any burners. The offense doesnt "need" one to be successful.

Yes, but the reason we averaged that much was because Warner had to sling the ball around so much to keep us in games because our defense was atrocious. We didn't have much of a running game but had to pass a ton, which rightly didn't help us get into the playoffs. We're not going to be the same offense as last year; that means we should run more and gunsling less. Ergo, the offense does need something more, IMO, to be successful.

 

[DaisyCutter]

Interesting that Hightower didn't seem to run with a Fullback. I don't actually see him as much more than a special teams player. It seems like the Cards didn't like the value of the runningbacks on the board when they were picking higher.

Hightower looked like the best kid on a high school football field in that highlight video. The NFL is two whole levels different from where he's coming from.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

The could have given up everything they've taken so far on day two and helped the team more by moving up and taking Charles or Smith. This guys is a slightly stronger than Shipp, not any faster and not likely quite as good at breaking tackles. He is a decent receiver, but might become a fullback. A little more height would make him more attractive at that position. He may be cheaper, but he doesn't make the running back group better.

No disrespect Harry, but how many hours have you studied Tim Hightower? My guess is about as many as I have which is zero. Give the kid and the Cards a chance on this one.

 

[abomb]

He's an uderdog with a great nickname.

What's his nickname?

 

[Mulli]

What's his nickname?

Spider from Mars is so much better than bread truck.

 

[john h]

RB out of Richmond. Downhill runner. Probably no speed to the outside!!

I read he is a good short yardage man. That is something we do need. I doubt he could replace James as an everydown player as he does not have the moves or speed. Hope we come up with a couple more RB's as free agents. Must be good one hiding out there somewhere.

 

[red desert]

Very much agree. It is simply so frustrating for me, though, to watch one of the deepest RB classes of recent memory pass us by, and we have to settle for Hightower out of Richmond. Not even a speed guy the team told us it wanted. I apologize for sounding bitter, but all this optimism in the face of our utter failure to get one of the good RB prospects just isn't enough for me.

Look at it this way:

this was one of the weakest Wr drafts in recent memory as well. So much so, that even those teams that used a high pick on a WR didn't really help themselves much. We are one of the few teams in the league with a superior wr corp. that didn't suffer because of that. In fact, we even managed to make our lethal wr corp. more explosive with the addition of Early.

 

[Stout]

What's his nickname?

Bread Truck. I love it.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Yes, but the reason we averaged that much was because Warner had to sling the ball around so much to keep us in games because our defense was atrocious. We didn't have much of a running game but had to pass a ton, which rightly didn't help us get into the playoffs. We're not going to be the same offense as last year; that means we should run more and gunsling less. Ergo, the offense does need something more, IMO, to be successful.

We had numerous typically fluke "Cardinal" losses last year. A "W" in any of them would have meant plyoffs.

Season-changing plays

• Green not slapping the ball out of bounds vs the 49ers
• Warner getting hurt in the 2nd play of the game against Carolina
• Rackers choking from 32 against SF
• Rackers choking from 46 against Bal
• Rackers choking from 53 against Wash
• Dockett making a stupid penalty against Wash
• Wilson's BS penalty in B'more
• The BS pick against Tampa/Fitz thinking the sideline was the goaline.

That was also our first year in the new O. Look for continuity to be apparent and us to grow as a team this year. We only lost one starter from last year's team which is pretty damn good.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I read he is a good short yardage man. That is something we do need. I doubt he could replace James as an everydown player as he does not have the moves or speed. Hope we come up with a couple more RB's as free agents. Must be good one hiding out there somewhere.

I doubt he takes Edge's job this year, but I can definitely see this guy carrying the load in the future. He does seem to have moves, and I will bet my life his 4.51 40 time is better than what Edge (who ran for 1200+ last year) would run right now.

 

[Sandan]

Season-changing plays

• Green not slapping the ball out of bounds vs the 49ers

Doing that will cost you a penalty, you have to make it 'look' like an accident

 

[abomb]

Doing that will cost you a penalty, you have to make it 'look' like an accident

No it doesnt. He would have knocked it out of the back of the endzone for a safety, instead of a SF TD.

 

[Sandan]

I thought I heard Green saw that in an interview the following week ?

 

[Stout]

That was also our first year in the new O. Look for continuity to be apparent and us to grow as a team this year. We only lost one starter from last year's team which is pretty damn good.

Absolutely. I'm just saying we're not going to stand pat and remain that good scoring points. Since we aren't going to be gunslinging (thank God!), we need to get better in other areas, like the running game. Adding a speedy #3 WR would have helped too.