Reddick & Bucannon could both be gone before deadline

[DVontel]

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I don’t care about Buc getting traded. He’s just a liability everywhere now.

Will say though, & I know this is unpopular here, but I won’t be shocked if Reddick balls out somewhere else. His development got screwed constantly here what with moving him to a new position, then moving him back to an old position cause of injuries, & now moving him back to a ILB but in a entirely different scheme. Blast away.

 

[juza76]

Yes they should be traded
At this point i would like to see veteran being replaced by the younger players
Want to see rudy ford, zeke turner being involved on more defensive snaps

 

[Shane]

Nobodies trading for these guys and if they do we will get 10 cents in the dollar in equivalent return

 

[Cardiac]

Buc has an outstanding attitude but he's expensive and not playing well.

Reddick seems to have zero instincts but freakish athleticism so I agree we need to give him more time.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

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I don’t care about Buc getting traded. He’s just a liability everywhere now.

Will say though, & I know this is unpopular here, but I won’t be shocked if Reddick balls out somewhere else. His development got screwed constantly here what with moving him to a new position, then moving him back to an old position cause of injuries, & now moving him back to a ILB but in a entirely different scheme. Blast away.

It was clear to most fans they were ill suited for this defense before the season. The team should've looked to makes deals with teams when they still had the aura of a starter. Now trade value even further diminished. Selling lower.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Nobodies trading for these guys and if they do we will get 10 cents in the dollar in equivalent return

I wonder how many additional outright failures by Mr. Keim are going to be tolerated. Total whiff on Reddick and complete failure of GM duties to hold onto both players until they are worthless.

 

[CFLredzoned]

Wow. This is a surprising story to come out of the blue. I'm surprised there's interest from other teams. Jets? I guess there are a few teams still using the $LB.

 

[Russ Smith]

I actually agree on Reddick I think he's the classic guy who's such a good athlete you have to wait on him a bit longer and hope he develops.

I said it last year if he were 2 inches taller you'd almost want to try him at TE he's that good of an athlete. But at 6'1" he's probably undersized so you want to keep him on defense. The negative on him is he's already 24 years old, he's very athletic but so far it seems to be more workout warrior athleticism he just has no instincts.

He had that sack recently where he just closed so quickly and you're thinking wow I want to see more of the, but what we usually see is him trailing the play or taking the wrong angle.

 

[Cardiac]

Wow. This is a surprising story to come out of the blue. I'm surprised there's interest from other teams. Jets? I guess there are a few teams still using the $LB.

Bowles knew how to use Buc so maybe....
Free to dream.

 

[Finito]

I was super excited when we drafted Bucannon he was a monster SS. Then Dansby left and Washington got suspended

All of a sudden BA is asking him to gain 20lbs and play linebacker. I really wish we had just kept him at his natural position. Man go back and look at him in school I think he had like 20+INT's he was a stud. I hope he finds success if it's not here he's always had a great attitude and done what's been asked of if him.

Reddick...meh

 

[JeffGollin]

Wow. This is a surprising story to come out of the blue. I'm surprised there's interest from other teams. Jets? I guess there are a few teams still using the $LB.

LaCanfora hasn't been the epitome of accuracy when it comes down running down rumors.

What should happen is that the Cardinal coaching staff sets a value on both Bucc and Riddick. Then, if the right deal should come along that returns us equal or better value, you might see them pulling the trigger.

If not, I don't see the Cardinals dealing either dude. (OK, Now that I've said it, the Cards will probably deal both tomorrow).

 

[football karma]

this is indicative of a bigger concern:

i dont want to spend two years turning over the roster to suit a Wilks scheme, only to finally conclude in two years he isnt the right coach-- and we go with someone who wants to go back to the 3-4

 

[TheCardFan]

If true, what a freakin' waste of 2 #1 picks.

Applaud the team for moving on quickly but jeez (no wonder we are 0-4)

 

[cardncubfan]

I wonder how many additional outright failures by Mr. Keim are going to be tolerated. Total whiff on Reddick and complete failure of GM duties to hold onto both players until they are worthless.

You don't fire a GM for drafting slightly above league average.

 

[vince56]

If true, what a freakin' waste of 2 #1 picks.

Applaud the team for moving on quickly but jeez (no wonder we are 0-4)

This is an indictment of our defensive coaches. They're fitting players into 'the system' instead of building on their players' strengths.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Wow. This is a surprising story to come out of the blue. I'm surprised there's interest from other teams. Jets? I guess there are a few teams still using the $LB.

Jets and Giants...

PS: We are now the 2017 Browns.

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[Finito]

Jets and Giants...

PS: We are now the 2017 Browns.

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Oh stop the Browns have had like 18 straight losing seasons, no we are not the Browns because we're 0-4

 

[DVontel]

this is indicative of a bigger concern:

i dont want to spend two years turning over the roster to suit a Wilks scheme, only to finally conclude in two years he isnt the right coach-- and we go with someone who wants to go back to the 3-4

100% this.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Yeah, it should have been clear early on that the converted LBs Bucannon and Reddick were not Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis. Really disappointing. Bucannon was one of my favorite Cardinals players in that hybrid role he was asked to play.

It was clear to most fans they were ill suited for this defense before the season. The team should've looked to makes deals with teams when they still had the aura of a starter. Now trade value even further diminished. Selling lower.

 

[JeffGollin]

You don't fire a GM for drafting slightly above league average.

True (& I'm not a believer in a hair-trigger when it comes to firing). But..

Someone has to be held accountable for shredding a pretty acceptable roster. If that someone turrns out to be Wilks or others on his staff, the question must be asked: "Who hired Wilks?" Assuming it was SK, Michael B has to wonder whether he can trust Steve to make other staffing decisions.

(Note - I have no clue about which decisions are unilateral - & 100% the province of Keim, the HC or possibly Michael B. Or whether every big decision is decided " by committee"; So a lot of what I have to say is based on blind-assumption or guesswork).

Following the Coach Parcells dictum that "a team is what its record says it is", it's hard not to assume that "something ain't working here" and changes in either policy, personnel (or both) need to be made - earlier/not later.

Determining the right course of action looking forward won't be easy (We often forget that other NFL teams, to various degrees, have rosters, coaching and management chock full of talent, and we'll have out-compete those people if we're going to get anywhere).

Finally, there have been public comments by Coach Wilks that suggest our problems are mostly due to transition issues & the best course of action might. be to "stay the course" with what we have. It's hard for me to accept this because (to mangle a metaphor): "if it's broke, fix it."

What the Cards wil do is hard to say: I think the odds of sweeping changes vs. doing little if anything drastic is 50-50.

 

[football karma]

Oh stop the Browns have had like 18 straight losing seasons, no we are not the Browns because we're 0-4

One way, of many, the Browns got that way was a regular turnover of GM/coaches/ schemes -- with every new schemes first act to shed the players who didn't fit

 

[Buckybird]

I still think Reddick can play well in this league. He’s a bad fit for the 4-3 no doubt.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I actually agree on Reddick I think he's the classic guy who's such a good athlete you have to wait on him a bit longer and hope he develops.

I said it last year if he were 2 inches taller you'd almost want to try him at TE he's that good of an athlete. But at 6'1" he's probably undersized so you want to keep him on defense. The negative on him is he's already 24 years old, he's very athletic but so far it seems to be more workout warrior athleticism he just has no instincts.

He had that sack recently where he just closed so quickly and you're thinking wow I want to see more of the, but what we usually see is him trailing the play or taking the wrong angle.

Yes his speed helped him close quickly, but so did the fact that he had a completely unblocked inside route to the QB more than anything else. He’s shown us nothing. He’s the epitome Tarzan/Jane.

 

[gmabel830]

Think of all the fun it will be to speculate what we are going to do with two additional 6th or 7th rounders!

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You don't fire a GM for drafting slightly above league average.

You’re right if you want to be a slightly above average team. Me? I’d like to shoot higher. And that means you need an elite GM, an elite coach, and elite players. Hmm, hiring a coach and acquiring players are two GM roles. So yeah, set your sights slightly above average - that’s old loser cardinal mentality. The better teams in the league would never accept slightly above average and neither would their fans. Sorry, just my opinion.