RJ back to Dbacks?

[Espo]

http://www.azsportshub.com/general/a-christmas-miracle/
If it's true it could be interesting. At least its some kind of noise this offseason.

 

[devilalum]

He's due to make 16 million next year?

For that money they could sign Zito.

What would make more since is for RJ to come back in 2007 in some capacity for a small salary and retire a Diamondback.

 

[Phill11]

Intresting. As long as we don't trade any prospects worth while, I am all for it.

Johnson coming back would generate intrest and revenue for the DBacks this year. Also a rotation of Webb, Hernandez, Johnson, Davis is solid.

I think Johnson wouldn't do bad here. He's aging, but a return to the desert could do him some good.

 

[devilalum]

Intresting. As long as we don't trade any prospects worth while, I am all for it.

Johnson coming back would generate intrest and revenue for the DBacks this year. Also a rotation of Webb, Hernandez, Johnson, Davis is solid.

I think Johnson wouldn't do bad here. He's aging, but a return to the desert could do him some good.

Why would you want RJ over Zito for the same price?

There's no way the Dbacks do this unless the Yankees pay at least half his salary.

Of course if the Yankees pay half his salary they're going to want better prospects. In that scenario we're basically selling prospects for cash.

 

[boondockdrunk]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=1528

The Newark Star-Ledger is reporting that the Yankees and Diamondbacks are talking about a Randy Johnson deal.
A baseball official from a third team is the Star-Ledger's source. The official said the Yankees do not want to pay any of Johnson's $16 million salary as part of a deal, which would be a big hurdle if true. Even in this market, Johnson is a poor risk at $16 million for 2007 and the Diamondbacks weren't interested in spending that kind of money on a free agent. We're skeptical anything will happen.

I would love a deal for RJ. He is not the pitcher he once was and might only have two or three years left in him but he could bring in more fans. With the Yankees overspending on team salary, we could get money back without giving up too much. After all, RJ did not have the best year of his career in 2006. Possibly a middle-tier prospect or two for him might be enough. We have plently of depth to trade from without weakening ourselves.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Why would you want RJ over Zito for the same price?

Because Johnson would only be signed for one year, whereas Zito would be signed for 5 or 6.

 

[boondockdrunk]

WOW!! Yankee fans are beyond redemption. Look at who they want in return for RJ: Carlos Gonzalez, Miguel Montero, and Brett Anderson! Too bad Anderson cannot be traded because he was just drafted (unless they use him as a player to be named later).

Is this some sort of sick joke?

 

[Nasser22]

I would hate this. It's too much money for him. Zito would've been MUCH, MUCH better. RJ is done. I loved the guy when he was here but we'd be lucky to see a 4.50 ERA and that's just not worth 16 mil.

 

[shoewizard]

This is the kind of deal I could live with:

Yankees trade RJ and 5 million for

Eric Byrnes, and one of Ross Ohlendorf, Evan Maclane, Greg Smith.

Addition by subtraction in the case of Byrnes, as then Scott Hairston can play in LF. He is a better hitter than Byrnes, better by enough to more than make up for any falloff in defense in left field.

Byrnes and his .313 OBP needs to be moved. He makes far too many outs and does not hit well enough to be an everyday corner outfielder.

 

[boondockdrunk]

This is the kind of deal I could live with:

Yankees trade RJ and 5 million for

Eric Byrnes, and one of Ross Ohlendorf, Evan Maclane, Greg Smith.

Addition by subtraction in the case of Byrnes, as then Scott Hairston can play in LF. He is a better hitter than Byrnes, better by enough to more than make up for any falloff in defense in left field.

Byrnes and his .313 OBP needs to be moved. He makes far too many outs and does not hit well enough to be an everyday corner outfielder.

Welcome Shoewizard. To my recollection, you were a poster on the ESPN diamondbacks board.

Anyway, I agree with the idea that Hairston would be better as a left fielder during next year. The only problem I can foresee with trading Byrnes is the loss of a fan favorite. However, Hairston has a much better bat not only because Eric played beyond his means last year but because he has proven it during his brief MLB call-ups. Sadly, I do not think that the front office would allow for Scott to have the position.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

WOW!! Yankee fans are beyond redemption. Look at who they want in return for RJ: Carlos Gonzalez, Miguel Montero, and Brett Anderson! Too bad Anderson cannot be traded because he was just drafted (unless they use him as a player to be named later).

Is this some sort of sick joke?

They must be ****ing insane..

They won't get ONE of those guys straight up for Johnson, let alone all three.

Yankee fans are delusional.

 

[Lefty]

They must be ****ing insane..

They won't get ONE of those guys straight up for Johnson, let alone all three.

Yankee fans are delusional.

Agree. I'm surprised they are not asking for Webb.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

WOW!! Yankee fans are beyond redemption. Look at who they want in return for RJ: Carlos Gonzalez, Miguel Montero, and Brett Anderson! Too bad Anderson cannot be traded because he was just drafted (unless they use him as a player to be named later).

Is this some sort of sick joke?

Its the ESPN boards, of course its a sick joke

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

This is the kind of deal I could live with:

Yankees trade RJ and 5 million for

Eric Byrnes, and one of Ross Ohlendorf, Evan Maclane, Greg Smith.

Addition by subtraction in the case of Byrnes, as then Scott Hairston can play in LF. He is a better hitter than Byrnes, better by enough to more than make up for any falloff in defense in left field.

Byrnes and his .313 OBP needs to be moved. He makes far too many outs and does not hit well enough to be an everyday corner outfielder.

Welcome, Shoewizard.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Welcome aboard Shoe!

 

[HooverDam]

The only problem I can foresee with trading Byrnes is the loss of a fan favorite.

Well I think the return of RJ (another fan fav.) would make up for the loss of fan favorite Byrnes. I'd say Johnson's popularity outweighs Byrnes'.

I'd love to see RJ finish off his career here, but only if the Yankees pay part of his salary, and only ask for mid level prospects, or someone like Byrnes.

Though it does seem strange that the organization would bring Randy back. He (along w/ Gonzo) are the faces of the purple/Jerry Colangelo D'backs which they seem so intent on distancing themselves from.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

People like this are living in a dream world..

Here's an exchange on the ESPN Board between myself and him..

if we get 2-3 top prospects and are not expected to pickup any of his salary how can we not make this trade.

and my reply.

No offense, but if you think Josh Byrnes is giving up two top prospects for Randy Johnson, you're sadly mistaken. If you think they're giving up two top prospects AND eating all of the remainder of Johnson's 16 million dollar contract, you're huffing something a little stronger than Elmer's Glue.

 

[AZZenny]

Hey Shoe -- nice to see you drop in!

I'd love to see RJ finish here -- if he pays half his own salary and we don't have to give up any prospects. Let the Yankees take Hairston, sure, that'll work.

 

[PDXChris]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2708203

Official: D-Backs, Yanks talking Unit trade

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Ok, not only are they talking about sending a package of players (including a major leaguer), they want to negotiate an extension with RJ? Ugh... I suddenly feel sick.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

In need of starting pitching -- and a marquee name that will draw more fans -- the Diamondbacks have offered a package of at least three players, including a major-leaguer. They would also want a 72-hour window to negotiate an extension with Johnson, who is owed $16 million in the final year of his contract. The Yankees, according to the official, don't want to pick up any of Johnson's salary.

Wonder who that Major Leaguer is..

Ok, not only are they talking about sending a package of players (including a major leaguer), they want to negotiate an extension with RJ? Ugh... I suddenly feel sick.

Honestly, I don't think either package is to be too concerned about.

Really, exactly how much does Brian Cashman think he's going to get for a 40 plus year old who's done next to nothing for them? Also, how much of a contract does Johnson think he's going to get at this time of year?

 

[PDXChris]

Wonder who that Major Leaguer is..

Chad Tracy?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

No way in hell.

 

[Espo]

Ok, not only are they talking about sending a package of players (including a major leaguer), they want to negotiate an extension with RJ? Ugh... I suddenly feel sick.

The major leaguer is probably Byrnes or a reliever and the extension would actually probably make it less than $16M for the Dbacks this year to have johnson.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I think it's going to be a package of a reliever and Hairston.