Rockets Interested in Morris?

[Errntknght]

I don't see much appeal in any of these deals. The least painful way of getting rid of Markeiff is straight up for Anderson and then let the latter walk. Better yet, waive him immediately so we don't have a circus at PF.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't see much appeal in any of these deals. The least painful way of getting rid of Markeiff is straight up for Anderson and then let the latter walk. Better yet, waive him immediately so we don't have a circus at PF.

There should be a way to get a third team involved who would take Anderson and give the Suns something in return.

 

[sunsfan88]

Celtics, Bulls and Heat all making trade offers for DeMarcus Cousins...

Ever since McD has gotten hired, he's been preaching about acquiring assets to try and make a trade for a superstar when one becomes available.

Well here's his chance if Cousins is indeed available. Let's see what he's got to show for the 2 and a half years of asset collection....

 

[elindholm]

Highly unlikely they part with Ariza. Motiejunas is damaged goods. No point asking for Harrell since the Suns wouldn't develop him.

Houston gets
Markieff Morris (8.0, 2019)
P. J. Tucker (5.5, 2017)

Phoenix gets
Terrence Jones (2.5, RFA 2016)
Corey Brewer (8.2, 2018)
future 2nd-round pick

Heh.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Celtics, Bulls and Heat all making trade offers for DeMarcus Cousins...

Ever since McD has gotten hired, he's been preaching about acquiring assets to try and make a trade for a superstar when one becomes available.

Well here's his chance if Cousins is indeed available. Let's see what he's got to show for the 2 and a half years of asset collection....

I have no doubt he is trying. He has been in on about every free agents superstar, no matter how remote the possibility. The only reason he would not be talking with Sacramento is if he just does not believe that Cousins is the guy he wants.

 

[devilalum]

Celtics, Bulls and Heat all making trade offers for DeMarcus Cousins...

Ever since McD has gotten hired, he's been preaching about acquiring assets to try and make a trade for a superstar when one becomes available.

Well here's his chance if Cousins is indeed available. Let's see what he's got to show for the 2 and a half years of asset collection....

The major advantage that all 3 of those teams have over the Suns is that they're in the east.

 

[overseascardfan]

The major advantage that all 3 of those teams have over the Suns is that they're in the east.

Yeah but what can they really offer that would interest SAC.

BOS - Sullinger, Olynck, Turner
CHI - Noah (they have WCS), Portis, Gibson (doubt they trade Butler or Gasol)
MIA- Whiteside, Bosh

MIA probably could offer the best package if they are willing to move Bosh.

 

[devilalum]

Yeah but what can they really offer that would interest SAC.

BOS - Sullinger, Olynck, Turner
CHI - Noah (they have WCS), Portis, Gibson (doubt they trade Butler or Gasol)
MIA- Whiteside, Bosh

MIA probably could offer the best package if they are willing to move Bosh.

It's possible but the Suns offer would have to blow away all the east offers.

Watching Barkley pull down 30 something rebounds on the Suns after he was traded was defenitely one of the all time lows for Suns fans.

Kings owners don't want to watch DMC destroy their team 4 times a year.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yeah but what can they really offer that would interest SAC.

BOS - Sullinger, Olynck, Turner
CHI - Noah (they have WCS), Portis, Gibson (doubt they trade Butler or Gasol)
MIA- Whiteside, Bosh

MIA probably could offer the best package if they are willing to move Bosh.

And Whiteside is an unrestricted free agent without bird rights. His trade value is quite low to any team without cap space this summer. Bosh's salary is very high.

The thing that Boston has is a boatload of picks.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It's possible but the Suns offer would have to blow away all the east offers.

Watching Barkley pull down 30 something rebounds on the Suns after he was traded was defenitely one of the all time lows for Suns fans.

Kings owners don't want to watch DMC destroy their team 4 times a year.

That is a very short-sighted reason to turn down an advantageous trade. If both Sac and Phoenix were playoff contenders and Cousins would give the Suns an advantage over the Kings in the playoffs, maybe. But neither team is in danger of causing the other any significant damage any time soon.

 

[devilalum]

That is a very short-sighted reason to turn down an advantageous trade. If both Sac and Phoenix were playoff contenders and Cousins would give the Suns an advantage over the Kings in the playoffs, maybe. But neither team is in danger of causing the other any significant damage any time soon.

You can't deny that it is a fact that teams don't like trading within their division.

 

[Covert Rain]

I hear Santa is looking to give a way a stocking full of coal. I say...DONE.

 

[WuRaider]

Give the Kings Len, Keef, and PJ and all our draft picks for Cousins.

Please

 

[devilalum]

Give the Kings Len, Keef, and PJ and all our draft picks for Cousins.

Please

If the Kings want picks the Suns have 7 first rounders that they can trade.

 

[Catlover]

You can't deny that it is a fact that teams don't like trading within their division.

I think it means much less in the NBA than it does in baseball and football. It might matter a little but I doubt it will factor into the decision. If it mattered at all I'd think they'd feel just as strongly about trading within the conference.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Give the Kings Len, Keef, and PJ and all our draft picks for Cousins.

Please

You think we could just trade our 2013 5th overall draft pick Len for there 2010 5th overall Cousins???

 

[Sunburn]

The Kings want more than our crappy mid to late round firsts. Mid to late round firsts don't have very much value. They're merely rolls of the dice. PJ offers little value to the Kings. He's a 30 year old, declining hustle player with minimal offensive ability and waning defensive ability. Kieff offers none to negative value. He's turning into a bigger headache than Cousins, and they're running out of tylenol. Len has some value but not too terribly much. He's looking like an average to slightly above average center in the league. It's really not a very attractive package for arguably the best center in the game, headache or not.

 

[sunsfan88]

The Kings want more than our crappy mid to late round firsts. Mid to late round firsts don't have very much value.

Yea this is why the Celtics have an upper hand due to those Nets picks.

 

[Catlover]

The Kings want more than our crappy mid to late round firsts. Mid to late round firsts don't have very much value. They're merely rolls of the dice. PJ offers little value to the Kings. He's a 30 year old, declining hustle player with minimal offensive ability and waning defensive ability. Kieff offers none to negative value. He's turning into a bigger headache than Cousins, and they're running out of tylenol. Len has some value but not too terribly much. He's looking like an average to slightly above average center in the league. It's really not a very attractive package for arguably the best center in the game, headache or not.

I disagree with some of your specifics but I agree with your point. We don't really have what it would take to get Cousins without stripping our cupboard bare. And he's not the guy I would want as my only foundation piece.

 

[Sunburn]

In my opinion, Kieff has negative value, despite his "modest" contract. He has a felony assault charge pending against him. He's not even seeing the court these days because of his attitude. When he has seen the court, he's an insufferable, loose cannon, tech collector with an inefficient style of play and questionable defense. He has shown to be clutch in pressure situations, but he's just as likely to disappear for games at a time, and that's when he's playing "well". Who knows if he will ever even regain his inconsistent form. Why would anyone want this guy? If we can get anything of value for him, that's a win. If we can just get out of his contract, that would be a win in my book.

 

[Sunburn]

I disagree with some of your specifics but I agree with your point. We don't really have what it would take to get Cousins without stripping our cupboard bare. And he's not the guy I would want as my only foundation piece.

Even without giving up the farm for Cousins, acquiring him makes me nervous. He's shown to be a headcase all the way since college, which is why he "slipped" to number 5 in the draft. We would be getting a superstar, but it's a superstar version of Kieff. Can he even be depended upon to lead a winning basketball team? So far he hasn't. What he has displayed is an exceptional aptitude for coach killing. I guess you have to take that chance if you can acquire him, but it makes me very nervous.

 

[Catlover]

In my opinion, Kieff has negative value, despite his "modest" contract. He has a felony assault charge pending against him. He's not even seeing the court these days because of his attitude. When he has seen the court, he's an insufferable, loose cannon, tech collector with an inefficient style of play and questionable defense. He has shown to be clutch in pressure situations, but he's just as likely to disappear for games at a time, and that's when he's playing "well". Who knows if he will ever even regain his inconsistent form. Why would anyone want this guy? If we can get anything of value for him, that's a win. If we can just get out of his contract, that would be a win in my book.

I think he has a lot more value than you believe. Granted, some of his value comes from the expectation that he's available for a discount but he's viewed as a quality stretch 4 around the league. The off the court incident is of little concern as by all reports he wasn't involved physically and PR over 2 brothers trying to protect their mother's reputation isn't all that big of a deal.

He's been horrible this year but he's less than a year removed from an almost unstoppable performance against Lebron and company. Somewhere there's a coach salivating over the possibility of "fixing" this guy and a GM salivating over the possibility of locking up a starter quality player for the pittance of 8 million per. This team is far more aware of his flaws than anyone else and even the Suns were trying to figure out a way to fix the guy and keep his disgruntled rear-end in Phoenix.

Personally, I think he's a horrible stretch 4 but for some reason that isn't his reputation. I'd only want him if it was on a roster where he could play down low with a solid rim protector playing next to him. As a stretch 4 I think he's more problem than solution. But for as long as the rest of the league still believes in that image I think he'll have decent trade value. Teams are desparate for stretch 4's right now.

 

[hcsilla]

Yea this is why the Celtics have an upper hand due to those Nets picks.

This year's Nets pick looks like a top5 pick.

 

[Sunburn]

I think he has a lot more value than you believe. Granted, some of his value comes from the expectation that he's available for a discount but he's viewed as a quality stretch 4 around the league. The off the court incident is of little concern as by all reports he wasn't involved physically and PR over 2 brothers trying to protect their mother's reputation isn't all that big of a deal.

He's been horrible this year but he's less than a year removed from an almost unstoppable performance against Lebron and company. Somewhere there's a coach salivating over the possibility of "fixing" this guy and a GM salivating over the possibility of locking up a starter quality player for the pittance of 8 million per. This team is far more aware of his flaws than anyone else and even the Suns were trying to figure out a way to fix the guy and keep his disgruntled rear-end in Phoenix.

Personally, I think he's a horrible stretch 4 but for some reason that isn't his reputation. I'd only want him if it was on a roster where he could play down low with a solid rim protector playing next to him. As a stretch 4 I think he's more problem than solution. But for as long as the rest of the league still believes in that image I think he'll have decent trade value. Teams are desparate for stretch 4's right now.

You very well may be right, but for his career, he's a 45% shooter, 33% from 3, and that's rounding up. He's in the midst of his worst season, shooting 39%, and 28% from 3, again rounding up. Hardly what I'd call a reliable stretch 4. He rebounds at a below average rate and his defense is marginal at best. It took me seconds to look up those stats. I'm not sold on the idea of an NBA GM not doing his due diligence on this guy. As for his legal problems, couple that with his on court problems, which can be quantified in the number of techs he's collected, and the fact that he's not seeing the court these days due to attitude, I find it hard to believe anyone is salivating over the opportunity to acquire Kieff. I respect your opinion very much though. I find you one of the more quality, measured posters on this site. We will see.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morrima02.html

 

[Catlover]

We will see.

True. I should add that I don't believe he has a lot of value but more than the negative value many seem to think. I'd guess (and it's just that, a guess) he'd have somewhere around the same value he had coming out. And most of that is due to the lure of the stretch 4 and his very managable paycheck. I can't argue against his stats, they don't paint a pretty picture - especially this season.