Rookies Impress, Impressed at First Training Camp

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Suns Rookies Impress, Impressed at First Training Camp

By Josh Greene, Suns.com
Posted: Oct. 3, 2007

For most NBA teams, training camp is the time coaches get their first official look at what their rookie players can do. In the Suns’ case, they like what they’ve seen already.

Even though they were only drafted four months ago, Alando Tucker and D.J. Strawberry have already had plenty of early looks at Phoenix’s system, thanks to recent showings with the Summer Suns in Las Vegas, various charity games and voluntary workouts at US Airways Center. But it’s been their initial two-a-day workouts in Tucson that have made impressions with their first NBA squad.

“They are two tough kids who play hard,” assistant coach Dan D’Antoni said. “Both of them are athletic. They obviously have a lot to learn, but any rookie who comes into the league does. Each one does different things, but both bring something to this team.”

Coming off his league-leading 6.4 apg in the 2007 Summer League, Strawberry is, appropriately enough, playing willing student this week at the University of Arizona’s McKale Center.

“I’m just trying to learn, have some fun and do everything as hard as I possibly can,” the young guard said. “It’s about coming out here and playing tough every possession. The guys are really teaching me a lot of things. I’m just trying to soak it all up. That’s a great feeling to be rookie and have every body teaching you and telling you things. That’ll ultimately help you get on the court and help the team win.”

Strawberry especially impressed Head Coach Mike D’Antoni during Tuesday’s workouts.

“D.J. really looked good,” D’Antoni said. “He was impressive today with his ability to knock down shots, finish on the break and he’s a really good defender. We already knew that, but if he can continue to make shots – It’s early, so we’ll have to see how it goes.”

Tucker has also gladly accepted any and all suggestions from his veteran teammates, as he learns the NBA ropes through the team's myriad of rotating drills and five-on-five scrimmages.

“The first days are done, and now I know what to expect,” the forward said. “It’ll only get better. As a rookie, I try to come out here and learn as much as I can. I’ve been watching the guys and shadowing them. It feels good. It’s my first NBA training camp, and it got off on the right foot.

“These guys are always in my ear, giving me tips here and there on defense and how to get a couple more steals to add to the stats sheet. That’s big, to have the whole team helping me through this week as a rookie.”

Looking to improve on "recognizing plays, getting open and creating shots" for himself, the Suns' 2007 first round pick has been impressed by what he’s seen with Steve Nash and Co.

“It’s something how hard they go on every single play,” Tucker continued, “and how attentive they are on things with details. These guys are veterans and they do everything to a T.”

Since Mike D’Antoni’s system doesn’t leave a lot of room for extra minutes on a nightly basis, training camp is crucial for the young players to be brought up to speed on playing Suns basketball in preparation for whatever role they will fill this season.

“This week gives them the situation to get acclimated to what’s going on,” assistant coach Alvin Gentry said. “They have to be able to maintain everything over the course of the whole season. They may play; they may not play. They have to be sure to continue to work and keep themselves in shape.

“They will play hard and do everything they need to do. They will learn everything there is to know about professional basketball and they are really focused in on doing that. They are tough, hard-nosed kids, and that always helps.”

While every NBA player has been in the same situation when they first started out, this rookie duo is ready to do what it takes to both raise eyebrows and expectations in their first season in the purple and orange.

“I have no problem with being at the bottom of the totem pole right now,” Strawberry said. “You have to work your way up and earn the respect of the players and coaches. It’s all about working, staying late, improving and playing hard."

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From everything I have read in various sources/newspapers, it appears these rookies, although fantastic, will not get very much playing time. They may get spot minutes if the team is up by 25 points and probably play a total of 35 games at best.

It appears D'Antoni's rotation is set with 8 guys:

Amare
Marion
Hill
Bell
Nash

Diaw
Barbosa
Skinner -OR- Banks splitting the 8th slot.

The Bench Foursome. Buy Some Nice Suits, Fellas:
Marks
Pike
Straw
Tuck
 

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Last I checked, Dantoni has done nothing but praise their development so far, and the season hasnt even begun.

But I guess Sunsman has concluded they wont play unless we are up by 25.
 

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Last I checked, Dantoni has done nothing but praise their development so far, and the season hasnt even begun.

But I guess Sunsman has concluded they wont play unless we are up by 25.

D'Antoni was thrilled to have Marcus Banks last year too. Not saying the rooks won't play, but I think it's highly unlikely they get significant time.
 

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SunsTzu, you are exactly correct.

YouJustGotSUND, you could not be further from truth. Can u just admit you were wrong for once? All you do is whine and complain like a little women about anything I say - right or wrong.

Here is exactly what D'Antoni said two days ago on the rooks:

"What's the odds of somebody coming right out of college to one of the best teams and playing significant minutes?" D'Antoni asked. "The odds aren't great. That doesn't mean we won't watch and look. I think their futures are great."

Here is what EastValleyTribune's Brown had to say:

"But D’Antoni is a creature of habit. Critics who constantly point to his small circle of trust won’t be surprised to learn there are signs that he has already penciled in a rotation of starters and bench players that may not go much more than nine-deep."

Here is what Kerr had to say:

"Alando and D.J. will be hungry, but they don’t have a resume. They have to take what they can get."

And here is what Paul Coro said when he met with D'Antoni:

"D'Antoni said he will use eight or nine players in his rotation. The group might be the starters (Nash, Bell, Hill, Marion and Stoudemire), everyday subs Leandro Barbosa and Boris Diaw, and a combination of Marcus Banks off the ball and a two-headed big man (Brian Skinner and Sean Marks)."


Can u please just be quiet please next time, YouJustGotSUND? You are the most annoying person ever. You are wrong. I am right. Alando and DJ will not play a lot of minutes - they will play very little. I gave u 4 sources.
 
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Can u please just shut up next time, YouJustGotSUND? You are the most annoying person ever. You are wrong. I am right. Alando and DJ will not play a lot of minutes - they will play very little. I gave u 4 sources.

Please please stop with the bad attitude Sunsman. We've asked you time and time again. Most of us are a hair away from asking the mods to kick you from the board.
 

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Here is a link from azcentral.com:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1004sunsnotes1005.html

The following comment is D'Antoni's vision in a nutshell from Paul Coro' article:


Phoenix potentially is deeper because of the players who can play multiple positions.

That versatility allows the Suns to switch more on defense, which coach Mike D'Antoni said he likes because it forces opponents to shoot over them. Having a 6-foot-8 wing in Hill reminds D'Antoni of when he had Joe Johnson.

Versatility also can make the Suns hard to scout on offense.

"Hopefully we can get to the point where there's no plays and no positions," D'Antoni said.
 

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D'Antoni was thrilled to have Marcus Banks last year too. Not saying the rooks won't play, but I think it's highly unlikely they get significant time.

D'Antoni was thrilled during the press conference-- not training camp. Once he saw him in action, he openly stated that it would take some time for him.

As for this season, he's been pretty candid. He want to play 9, but it's hard with 7 players all playing 30+ minutes a game. He also said that Banks it much smoother and more comfortable in the offense, Skinner has shown he'll be able to contribute, and Strawberry has been very surprising. He stopped short of saying that Strawberry could make the rotation, but he said something along the lines of "If he keeps this up...well...we'll see." I think that for Strawberry to play he'd have to take Banks' spot, but he seems to be outperforming Tucker and possibly even Banks.
 

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I also think that Strawberry is the one guy on the team with a shot at being a very good defender against Parker. Nobody is the type, physically. He's very quick laterally and not a particularly physical defender. Banks is more of a tank and better against guys like Cassell and Baron Davis. Strawberry is long and can keep up with Parker, who isn't a guy that you can't really stop by being physical.
 

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Please please stop with the bad attitude Sunsman. We've asked you time and time again. Most of us are a hair away from asking the mods to kick you from the board.

i'm just about there myself.

but in response to this thread....rookies almost NEVER see significant meaningful time on a contending team. and even if either DJ or Tucker look amazing in camp and in spot minutes on the floor during garbage time, they both really lack the experience to make in impact when it counts.

starting off the season we'll rarely see either of them....and it probably wont be until later in the year where they find floor time.
 

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starting off the season we'll rarely see either of them....and it probably wont be until later in the year where they find floor time.

I'm curious as to why you think that is. I would expect them to get more time near the beginning of the year when games don't seem to have the same importance as near the end of the season when teams are fighting for positioning and such.

Don't we also have a very friendly schedule to start with a bunch of home games? If we had blowouts during that stretch again I would expect to see the two rookies out there.

As much praise as Strawberry is getting it's going to be tough because only one of Banks or Strawberry will really get those garbage PG minutes and so far they seem to be slightly redundant players. I'm guessing Banks will get more showcase time to get other teams interested over DJ.
 
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I'm curious as to why you think that is. I would expect them to get more time near the beginning of the year when games don't seem to have the same importance as near the end of the season when teams are fighting for positioning and such.

Don't we also have a very friendly schedule to start with a bunch of home games? If we had blowouts during that stretch again I would expect to see the two rookies out there.

As much praise as Strawberry is getting it's going to be tough because only one of Banks or Strawberry will really get those garbage PG minutes and so far they seem to be slightly redundant players. I'm guessing will get more showcase time to get other teams interested over DJ.

i see what you are saying there....but here's the way i see it.

we are playing in a relatively weak division. Clips/Kings will be struggling to stay about .300, while the Lakers/Warriors will be fighting for the playoffs.

if we stay healthy i dont see their being much of a challenge in the division. if we are rolling confortably then i would like to see the rookies get more time so we can rest mainly Nash/Hill. additionally, the rooks will be getting a decent amount of experience thoughout the year, and might be a bit more mature and able to handle the floor better than they would at the beginning of the season.
 

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Please please stop with the bad attitude Sunsman. We've asked you time and time again. Most of us are a hair away from asking the mods to kick you from the board.

When YouJustGotSUNSD appologizes for being incorrect on this topic, I will be quiet.

Right now, he owes me a big appology for bashing when in fact my argument was correct + 4 quoted sources.

Read page 1, including the red and bold quotes, and be the judge yourself.
 

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When YouJustGotSUNSD appologizes for being incorrect on this topic, I will be quiet.

Right now, he owes me a big appology for bashing when in fact my argument was correct + 4 quoted sources.

Read page 1, including the red and bold quotes, and be the judge yourself.

how old are you?
 

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When YouJustGotSUNSD appologizes for being incorrect on this topic, I will be quiet.

Right now, he owes me a big appology for bashing when in fact my argument was correct + 4 quoted sources.

Read page 1, including the red and bold quotes, and be the judge yourself.

I happen to believe you are probably correct on this issue, and you did a fair job of defending your position in your previous post.

But this is a message board, the personal attack was way out of line. Also, it is not your prerogative to ask him to be quiet just because his opinion is different from yours. He is entitled to his opinion--even if it is wrong.

He owes no apology whatsoever for disagreeing with you. This would be a very dull place if we all had to think the same way.
 

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Do you guys need to clutter up nearly every thread with your bickering? Or, at least, learn how to differ in your opinions in a civilized manner - and try to add a little content while you're at it.
 

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