Roster Moves: Pleasant Surprises and best guess PS players

[spanky1]

I'm glad Green didn't decide to jettison Elton Brown. I really believe that he will play a valuable role as time progresses and he gains more experience.

Diamond Ferri...I really like what I see in this kid. Better than Roger Robinson and with a greater upside than Damien Anderson.

Fred Wakefield.....talk about a tenacious and unheralded player. Always room on a roster for a player like him.

AJ Schable.....I love it when the occasional OFA makes the 53 man roster. It shows me that our scouting department are on top of things.

I can see us bringing Lance Mitchell, Todd Watkins, C. Holiday, M. Spurlock, McCareins, Hunter and Bulman back as PS.....maybe some other cut from another team.

Would like to see us dump Navarre for another QB....just don't think he has "it".

I like this team and we enter the regular season in good shape health wise. Get Dansby back into the fold and we measure up with the best LB's around.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm glad Green didn't decide to jettison Elton Brown. I really believe that he will play a valuable role as time progresses and he gains more experience.

Diamond Ferri...I really like what I see in this kid. Better than Roger Robinson and with a greater upside than Damien Anderson.

Fred Wakefield.....talk about a tenacious and unheralded player. Always room on a roster for a player like him.

AJ Schable.....I love it when the occasional OFA makes the 53 man roster. It shows me that our scouting department are on top of things.

I can see us bringing Lance Mitchell, Todd Watkins, C. Holiday, M. Spurlock, McCareins, Hunter and Bulman back as PS.....maybe some other cut from another team.

Would like to see us dump Navarre for another QB....just don't think he has "it".

I like this team and we enter the regular season in good shape health wise. Get Dansby back into the fold and we measure up with the best LB's around.

If they choose not to re-sign Hodgins after week one, I think Bronson will be added to the PS, as insurance.

 

[JeffGollin]

It will be tough to scope out PS players and equally tough to relax and assume all the current survivors will remain on the roster.

To get on the PS, released players have to clear waivers first. Some of our guys may get picked up. Many of our guys have one or two special attributes that figure to get the attention of the 31 other NFL teams - i.e. Spurlock's explosiveness and the tape of Holliday's one-handed catch and catch & run vs. Denver.

If 1, 2 or 3 guys who clear waivers fit certain roster needs (like #3QB, RT or CB) we'd have to release a like number currently on our roster to make room - and not necessarily within a single position (like would probably happen with a new #3 QB and Navarre).

If the right trade situation came along, we might part with one or two players on our active roster in exchange for one or two players at other positions who could help us. This, in turn could necessitate a slight roster "adjustment." Maybe this is why Hodgins and Holliday remain listed on the roster shown on the official website.

 

[Goldfield]

If they choose not to re-sign Hodgins after week one, I think Bronson will be added to the PS, as insurance.

Is that the plan? to resign Hodgins? I hope so he looked real good the last 2 games. We need any help we can get in the running game.

 

[joeshmo]

I can see us bringing Lance Mitchell, Todd Watkins, C. Holiday, M. Spurlock, McCareins, Hunter and Bulman back as PS.....maybe some other cut from another team.

The Cards will not keep 3 WR's on the PS. Even 2 is overkill but Spurlock and Watkins are locks. Teams prefer to diversify their practice squads. Holiday is sent packing yet again. Bronson is another lock as is an OL from somewhere. After that it is to hard to guess.

As for Mitchell it is doubtful he goes to the PS. Just to much red tape and to much procedure to do so. He was waived with injury so if no team picks him up he will revert to our IR, then we would have to give him an injury settlement to take him off of IR, then he becomes a UFA free to sign anywhere, then we would have to sign him again.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Is that the plan? to resign Hodgins? I hope so he looked real good the last 2 games. We need any help we can get in the running game.

Don't know if it's "the plan".

some have speculated that Hodgins could be re-signed after game one, from which his salary is not guaranteed for the year. My thought was that, if not, they'd sign Bronson to the PS and activate him.. if need be.

 

[Duetto]

I'm glad Green didn't decide to jettison Elton Brown. I really believe that he will play a valuable role as time progresses and he gains more experience.

Diamond Ferri...I really like what I see in this kid. Better than Roger Robinson and with a greater upside than Damien Anderson.

Fred Wakefield.....talk about a tenacious and unheralded player. Always room on a roster for a player like him.

AJ Schable.....I love it when the occasional OFA makes the 53 man roster. It shows me that our scouting department are on top of things.

I can see us bringing Lance Mitchell, Todd Watkins, C. Holiday, M. Spurlock, McCareins, Hunter and Bulman back as PS.....maybe some other cut from another team.

Would like to see us dump Navarre for another QB....just don't think he has "it".

I like this team and we enter the regular season in good shape health wise. Get Dansby back into the fold and we measure up with the best LB's around.

With all due respect spanky, what do you like more about Ferri then Robinson? If you put both guys side by side and compare what they did against each other and against the same players, Robinson comes out on top...... by a long shot. If you simply look at phyiscal skills Robinson even sets himself further out then Ferri, speed, ability to change direction, vert and he is much stronger then you would think according to his proday. In Robinson your talking about a legit 4.3 running back with homerun ability that has sick change of direction. There is less then 10 RB's in the NFL that can run a 4.3. The question was not if Robinson was fast, the question was whether he could find the hloes and use that speed. I think he showed he could in NFLE. Ferri is not a bad RB, but has nothing that sets him apart from other 3rd string backs in the NFL.

What does Ferri offer in your opinion?

 

[Cardiac]

A couple of thougths about the Practice Squad...

I think we will be able to somewhat guage the quality of depth on our team by how many of our waived players get picked up, especially compared to other teams.

I'm glad to see no one is projecting the punter Capshaw being added to the PS. The reason I say this is that as of 2 weeks ago some where posting this as an option. I can't think of the advantage to this. To me the PS is used to stash additional bench strength and the development of promising young talent. The rules for the PS make kickers poor options IMHO.

I too hope that Bronson and Holiday are added to the PS. After that I would look more at positions: OT, FS, LB, QB and WR.

 

[ajcardfan]

What does Ferri offer in your opinion?

I'm not spanky, but I think the main difference between the two is how well Ferri played on the kickoff and punt teams. The guy was also a S at Syracuse, so I think ability to tackle on kicks makes him much more valuable than Robinson.

 

[Shane]

With all due respect spanky, what do you like more about Ferri then Robinson? If you put both guys side by side and compare what they did against each other and against the same players, Robinson comes out on top...... by a long shot. If you simply look at phyiscal skills Robinson even sets himself further out then Ferri, speed, ability to change direction, vert and he is much stronger then you would think according to his proday. In Robinson your talking about a legit 4.3 running back with homerun ability that has sick change of direction. There is less then 10 RB's in the NFL that can run a 4.3. The question was not if Robinson was fast, the question was whether he could find the hloes and use that speed. I think he showed he could in NFLE. Ferri is not a bad RB, but has nothing that sets him apart from other 3rd string backs in the NFL.

What does Ferri offer in your opinion?

The better ? is are you Roger Robinson?

 

[Capital Card]

The better ? is are you Roger Robinson?

Only on ASFN can you watch an arguement unfold about our 4th string RB.

 

[Shane]

Only on ASFN can you watch an arguement unfold about our 4th string RB.

It just seems the only time duetto posts is when it involves Robinson as a topic. He strongly defends him with a passion almost. So if its not him Im betting their at least related.

 

[Big Red Line]

It just seems the only time duetto posts is when it involves Robinson as a topic. He strongly defends him with a passion almost. So if its not him Im betting their at least related.

Maybe he likes him. It's silly to think that someone favoring a player is necessarily related. Also, it's an ad hominem argument that doesn't address the issue. Robinson is a back with possibilities; so is Fermi.

 

[Evil Ash]

Holiday is sent packing yet again.

I wouldn't be surprised if we sign him back after week 1 due to McCoy's injury

 

[JeffGollin]

Two thoughts while we await the post-cuts and PS roster moves -

1. In addition to being a coverage guy and a return guy, Ferri looks like a nice compact compleat RB who can catch, block and pick up positive yardage. I compared his running style in an earlier post to Marcus Allen in the way he follows his blocks and dents in the opposing run defense.

But, come to think of it, he reminds me more of LeRoy Hoard in terms of his running style.

2. I liked Holiday's performance Thursday well enough to wonder why DG and RG wouldn't consider IR'ing McCoy and keeping Carlyle as his 5th wideout. I like both receivers - both he and McCoy appear to be similar in talent. And this way, we don't lose a promising youngster.

 

[Big Red Line]

2. I liked Holiday's performance Thursday well enough to wonder why DG and RG wouldn't consider IR'ing McCoy and keeping Carlyle as his 5th wideout. I like both receivers - both he and McCoy appear to be similar in talent. And this way, we don't lose a promising youngster.

Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Holliday was impressive Thursday and that might make it harder to slip him through waivers. McCoy's going to miss almost a third of the season as it is.

 

[Evil Ash]

2. I liked Holiday's performance Thursday well enough to wonder why DG and RG wouldn't consider IR'ing McCoy and keeping Carlyle as his 5th wideout. I like both receivers - both he and McCoy appear to be similar in talent. And this way, we don't lose a promising youngster.[/color]

McCoy is only out 5 weeks. Putting him on IR would be a bit extreme

 

[Cardiac]

McCoy is only out 5 weeks. Putting him on IR would be a bit extreme

I have to agree. McCoy has produced during the regular season, Holiday has yet to prove he can. Cards are gambling that Holiday isn't picked up and that McCoy will be back before he is needed.

 

[Evil Ash]

I have to agree. McCoy has produced during the regular season, Holiday has yet to prove he can. Cards are gambling that Holiday isn't picked up and that McCoy will be back before he is needed.

Exactly if we did sign Holiday after week 1, he'd simply serve as insurance for the time it takes McCoy to heal. As of now we have 4 WRs that can play in the first 5 weeks and if heaven forbid one of those players gets hurt we'd have serious depth issues.

 

[Big Red Line]

I agree with the assessment that McCoy is more game proven than Holliday. But I thought McCoy was out five more weeks. That's four games and maybe five, which is almost a third of the season that we go with only four receivers. Plus, what if McCoy falls back a little and takes an additional 2-3 weeks to get up to speed? If Holliday makes it to the practice squad, this is moot.

 

[Evil Ash]

I agree with the assessment that McCoy is more game proven than Holliday. But I thought McCoy was out five more weeks. That's four games and maybe five, which is almost a third of the season that we go with only four receivers. Plus, what if McCoy falls back a little and takes an additional 2-3 weeks to get up to speed? If Holliday makes it to the practice squad, this is moot.

Thats why we're saying we could sign him after week 1. At that point his salary isn't guaranteed and he serves as insurance until McCoy is ready again.

Once you put McCoy on IR, his season is over

 

[Big Red Line]

Well, there it is. McCoy is on injured reserve and Holliday is signed to the practice squad. Reid is cut and, as mentioned in other threads, we've picked up a couple of promising players.

 

[ajcardfan]

Well, there it is. McCoy is on injured reserve and Holliday is signed to the practice squad. Reid is cut and, as mentioned in other threads, we've picked up a couple of promising players.

We have one more spot on the practice squad. That is probably one they are saving for Reid.

 

[JeffGollin]

McCoy is only out 5 weeks. Putting him on IR would be a bit extreme

Cards just did it.