Rumor: Cardinals to franchise tag Calais Campbell
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Or replace it with crap!
Garthshort
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With all the time that has transpired it's an indictment of the Cards' FO that a deal hasn't been done. No excuses. Either RG has no power or he's just incompetent. Or both.
That is definitely another reason to try to keep your own guys. You know what they can do and almost everyone agrees getting guys in both free agency and the draft is a crapshoot.
However, the Cards have finally started to get it right with most of the replacement players so I think it would be fair to assume they'd get it right with adding players.
Wouldn't it be great to be writing about how awesome it is to have a player with Dansby's talent AND a player of Washington's talent on the defense instead of just one guy like DWash?
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we likely wouldnt know how good dwash is if dansby was here and if we did, would be trading him this year for picks.
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Yeah, it's surprising after all these years that RG hasn't mastered rule one on negotiating a multi-million dollar contract: Give them whatever they want!
should change title to something like "do you think cards will just franchise him" as it is not a rumor we are franchising him.
If Dansby were still in the AZ DWash wouldn't be but some other player would who could be just as good at his position as DWash is for us now.
Just for illustration say the Cards let Campbell go because they don't want to pay him $10 million for one year. The Cards then have to use a draft pick on a DE and pass on a solid offensive Guard. What would you rather have, a new DE who ends up slightly better than CC was or CC and a guy who solidifies the RG position for us for 5 tears?
Of course there is the perfect example. What would have been the better situation? Leonard Davis and Adrian Peterson or Levi Brown and nobody.
It's hard to look into the Cardinals history when you are trying to determine what this team will do regarding draft/FA'/re-signing players.
When Dennis Green came on board, this organization started to change from business as usual. Steve Keim was upgraded in the draft department. Mike Bidwill came in to the organization on a full time basis. It was a slow and methodical change, but the organization was going in the right direction. The new stadium got them the funding they had needed since forever and that is when it became apparent that the Cardinals were now starting to act like a real NFL team. Trying to link the prior organization to the organization they are today is fruitless. This ain't your father's Cardinals.
When Dennis Green came on board, this organization started to change from business as usual. Steve Keim was upgraded in the draft department. Mike Bidwill came in to the organization on a full time basis. It was a slow and methodical change, but the organization was going in the right direction. The new stadium got them the funding they had needed since forever and that is when it became apparent that the Cardinals were now starting to act like a real NFL team. Trying to link the prior organization to the organization they are today is fruitless. This ain't your father's Cardinals.
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Really?
Then why in 2010 did we let talent walk out the door, replace it with bargin basement options, and play a season with a underwhelming lack of talent while being 30 million under the cap.
This is no less than 1 year ago.
I guess it is not your father's Cardinals, tho it looks like your your father's Cardinals, acts like it, and plays like it.
Just sayin' let's not go nuts here. Warner showed to be the main reason for the success in AZ, and in two years the team Warner brought to the Superbowl was gone, along with Warner. The talent then left, and we were left to watch an untalented team get its doors blown off for an entire season.
This year was looking to be just as bad, but Horton came in and saved the day, and the season.
Yet, the team still only went 8-8 in a weak division.
Let's not get crazy here. It takes more than 2 years in 60 to tout that things have changed. Do we improve from 8-8 ? Do we retain the talent we have here in house ? Is Calais Campbell going to be signed long term, or will the franchise tag be used because AGAIN our organization can't close a deal before a certain deadline.
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There's only 1 thing in the Cards organization today, in Stl & Chicago that still haunts this team from being a perennial contender...
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Last year the organization said that they didn't spend money because of the uncertainty of the lockout. It was not that long ago that the Bidwill's claimed that the stadium would allow them to financially compete with the top teams in the NFL.
So, I guess we find out this off season if this last year's financial cost savings was exactly what they said or if this is just the circle of life coming back in terms of spending.
So, I guess we find out this off season if this last year's financial cost savings was exactly what they said or if this is just the circle of life coming back in terms of spending.
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they spent like mad AFTER the lockout
No they didn't. They're still $8 million under the cap.
they spent like mad AFTER the lockout
I should clarify, it's not that they didn't spend money but they did say there were not as aggressive and didn't want to spend up to the cap because of the uncertainty.
Again, probably was the case. They are going to have some cap space to spend this off season and we need some pieces.
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Not counting the Levi contract, which at a minimum is to be renegotiated, they are committed to about 95M CAP dollars for 2012. With a 7M carry over from 2011, which would cover Kolb's bonus in March, they'd have relatively $3OM for Free Agency and draft. CC, Marshall, a FA tackle or two, a few vet backups on "D" and this gets eaten up rather quickly.
seemed they went spend crazy and spent more than they normally would and especially more than the same old cardinals would.
no doubt, just two cents
kerouac9
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Did they? The brought in one "headline" acquisition in Kolb, two mid-level players in Stewart Bradley and Jeff King, and a couple bottom of the roster guys in Richard Marshall and Todd Heap.
Doesn't seem to different from what we were doing in the seasons before 2011.
Did they? The brought in one "headline" acquisition in Kolb, two mid-level players in Stewart Bradley and Jeff King, and a couple bottom of the roster guys in Richard Marshall and Todd Heap.
Doesn't seem to different from what we were doing in the seasons before 2011.
spent a boatload on brad and kolb, took a major gamble, something i never saw much of. Seems like an excellent offseason and on par with anyone really, would you prefer the dan snyder method?
Jeff king was an excellent signing either way.
Heap is bottom of the roster? No use...eternal pessimism and I never agree.
kerouac9
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We spent the going rate on Kolb. I was actually excited about the contract they signed him to--thought they got good value. Regardless of the gamble; you're just talking about spending.
Bradley they completely overspent on, considering that the market for middle linebackers immediately dried up once Bradley got signed and better players were signed for half as much.
Jeff King was a better signing than I think even the Cards expected. Depending on how he plays the next couple of years, he could be the best free agent signee since Bertrand Berry.
Yes, Heap is bottom of the roster. Did he even play in half the games? Didn't start; couldn't beat out King. Was ineffective and didn't score a TD until Week 17. His signing was on par with signing Emmitt Smith to get fans to come to games.
What the Cards did really well was spend everything necessary to keep Larry Fitzgerald in the fold. This is something to legitimately be proud of and is the brightest mark on Rod Graves' tenure as General Manager.
But Bradley was a stupid contract. You don't guarantee $10 million to a guy who isn't going to start for you.
I don't prefer the Dan Snyder method. I think the Cards would've been better of playing it safer in free agency (signing Alex Smith or Matt Hasselback instead of trading for Kolb, getting one of the MANY solid MLB/ILBs available in free agency for half the price, etc.) and then funneling that money into keeping the unit intact (like extending Calais Campbell by October, instead of waiting for him to have a Pro Bowl caliber season before opening negotiations.
If this team had Alex Smith or Hasselback instead of Kevin Kolb's sub-mediocrity, I have little doubt that this would've been a wild card team.
I agree we made mistakes, just saying we did throw cash everywhere like pacman at a strip club.
heap was a starter whenever he wasnt injured
heap was a starter whenever he wasnt injured
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I was pissed when they spent that money on Bradley and the could have has Stephen Tulloch for less. Yes Tulloch is smaller, but he could have beat out Paris Lenon for the starting SILB spot.
