Rumor-Vince Young scores 6 on Wonderlic Test

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Oh and by the way.

QB Steve McNair 15
QB Randall Cunningham 15
QB Dan Marino 12
QB Jeff George 9
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
I dont think any of you on this board are dumb but if you took that Wonderlic test I doubt you would score that well either...Doesnt mean you "lack intelligence"

Shane I wont get into this arguement with you. I have seen from day 1 you dont like him. fine. If he had scored a 40 on the test you would somehow said he cheated or "it doesnt mean anything" so lets just let it die.


Isnt the whole point of the test too measure your intelligence? There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever I would score dramatically higher than VY. To bad I cant run a 4.4 40, juke people out of there socks, and have a decent throwing arm.

Anyhow Im glad you have me pegged John! Kudos to you! :thumbup:
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Oh and by the way.

QB Steve McNair 15
QB Randall Cunningham 15
QB Dan Marino 12
QB Jeff George 9

Jeff George is no shock. Thats still no 6.
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Oh and by the way.

QB Steve McNair 15
QB Randall Cunningham 15
QB Dan Marino 12
QB Jeff George 9

Marino 12 - seriously. Did the Dolphins pay him to do that?

Young - It don't matter - He'll be a success in this league. Bigtime talent, decent person.
 

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Shane H said:
Jeff George is no shock. Thats still no 6.
Why dont we do it this way...


Here are some QB's that scored really well on the wonderlic:


Klingler, David 30

Mirer, Rick 31

Maas, Jason 43

Burke, Bill 31

Carmazzi, Giovanni 32

Brown, Travis 35

Husak, Todd 39

Coleman, Justin 32

Kustok, Zak 35

Pate, Wes 35

Kingsbury, Kliff 31

Henson, Drew 42

Akili Smith 37

and those who have not faired so well:


Cunningham, Randall , 15

Marino, Dan 12

George, Jeff, 9

Stewart, Kordell 12

McNabb, Donovan 12

Wright, Anthony 16

Garrard, David 12

Campbell, Jason 14


All I am saying is dont put too much stock in these scores...
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Why dont we do it this way...


Here are some QB's that scored really well on the wonderlic:


Klingler, David 30

Mirer, Rick 31

Maas, Jason 43

Burke, Bill 31

Carmazzi, Giovanni 32

Brown, Travis 35

Husak, Todd 39

Coleman, Justin 32

Kustok, Zak 35

Pate, Wes 35

Kingsbury, Kliff 31

Henson, Drew 42

Akili Smith 37

and those who have not faired so well:


Cunningham, Randall , 15

Marino, Dan 12

George, Jeff, 9

Stewart, Kordell 12

McNabb, Donovan 12

Wright, Anthony 16

Garrard, David 12

Campbell, Jason 14

And? What are you trying to prove other than the fact that Vince Young is not just low he is Really low. Damn near the lowest ever scored. Many players are going to bomb many are going to do well all for different reasons.

The wonderlich is just another red flag gleeming in VY's corner. Your right I dont like him. I predict he will be an NFL disaster!
 

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Shane H said:
And? What are you trying to prove other than the fact that Vince Young is not just low he is Really low. Damn near the lowest ever scored. Many players are going to bomb many are going to do well all for different reasons.

The wonderlich is just another red flag gleeming in VY's corner. Your right I dont like him. I predict he will be an NFL disaster!


Well I am glad some of the Akili Smiths and David Klinglers of the world didnt throw up that "wonderlic redflag"....Their scores proved they are great NFL players.

And Dan Marino and Jeff George! I am glad everyone was smart to stay away from those two guys. They wont amount to crap in this league!
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Well I am glad some of the Akili Smiths and David Klinglers of the world didnt throw up that "wonderlic redflag"....Their scores proved they are great NFL players.

And Dan Marino and Jeff George! I am glad everyone was smart to stay away from those two guys. They wont amount to crap in this league!

Where in any of my posts did I say it was the tell all? Please point that out? Thats sure how you are making it sound.
 

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Looks like profootballtalk may have started a rumor mill that has spread like wild fire again.

Texans | Casserly comments about Young's Wonderlic test
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:14:44 -0800

Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly said at the NFL Combine Sunday, Feb. 26, he had heard about Texas QB Vince Young's score on the Wonderlic test. He also said he heard from a good source that the test results were inaccurate. "Yes, I have been told it was inaccurate, by a source good enough for me to stand up here and quote it. Otherwise I wouldn't get up here and just say it," said Casserly. He was asked how the test would impact the Texans opinion of Young and he replied, "Well, I can only speak for the Houston Texans. I can't speak for 31 other teams. I just said how we evaluate it. It doesn't make any difference what the test score is to us. We're going to go through the same evaluation. I could point to players that have high test scores but couldn't necessarily learn football. So you go through that process, and then we'll evaluate that player's ability to learn our system at the end of it."

I will wait until a confirmed score comes out.
 

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Don't you get 5 points for spelling your name correctly?

This just in....

Vince Young BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p
 

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Here is from Don Banks on SI.Com....

>>• Suffice to say it's not going to help quiet the Vince Young debate one bit that the Texas quarterback reportedly scored a painfully low 6 (of a possible 50) on the Wonderlic intelligence test that the league administers to all combine participants.

Is a shoddy Wonderlic showing a death knell for a prospect? Not one with Young's special athletic skills and proven track record of production. But it may give some teams near the top of the draft pause, if they think taking Young means they'll have to bring him along even slower than your typical first-round quarterback.

As one longtime NFL personnel man told me this weekend: "I don't take him, because with 18 teams changing coaches in the past three years (56 percent of the league), if you draft him, somebody else might be coaching him by the time he's ready to play. He's going to be a bit of a process. Teams are a little wary of him, and that's why I think (Vanderbilt quarterback Jay) Cutler is passing him up.''

Said one veteran defensive coordinator: "The way these agents have their guys preparing for the Wonderlic and taking it twice a day, just imagine if he got a 6 on it after preparing for it. What would he have gotten if he had walked in cold and taken it? That's the thing you have to think about.''<<

If he falls to #10 I don't think there is any way we can pass on him. There is just too much potential there but we have to be prepared for him to sit for at least 1 full season before he will see any game time. With Warner signed for 3 years I don't see that as a problem though.
 

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I would not go to the bank with a profootballtalk.com story

And I hope with all this bad PR that he is there when we draft at 10. Young will be the best QB that comes out of this draft. He may not be the best this year, but he will be the best after it's all said and done
 

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I think workout numbers are very secondary to how a guy performed during his career. And, there is no workout number more irrelevant than the Wonderlic.

Quick, think of all the really good football players you've known in your life. How many of them were "smart"? Yep, I don't need all my fingers to count them either! :)
 

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Tis is probably the worst part of the Combine. Does scoring high on the Wonderlic make you a better football player, no athletic ability does. The guy went to Texas not Harvard, he was probably too busy with the Texas female coeds to study.
 

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D-Dogg said:
Reggie Bush is not a QB.

And I hope we don't have VY on the board...we might take him. And I don't want him.

That's what many people on this board were saying about Kurt Warner just a year ago.

I don't want the Cards to draft Young either. He wouldn't last a season before getting injured. Just like every other player the Cards have had in the last jillion years.

Charlie Johnson-constantly hurt causing the great Cards teams of the 60's a shot at an NFC title
Neil Lomax-injured finally had to retire early
Rosenbach-injured
Hearst-injured
Swann-injured
Moore-injured
Wadsworth-injured
Boldin-injured(twice)
Fitzgerald(high ankle sprain rookie season)
Boston-injured
KVB-injured
Starks-injured every other week
Ross-injured
Rolle-injured
etc.etc.etc.
 
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Duckjake said:
That's what many people on this board were saying about Kurt Warner just a year ago.

I don't want the Cards to draft Young either. He wouldn't last a season before getting injured. Just like every other player the Cards have had in the last jillion years.

Charlie Johnson-constantly hurt causing the great Cards teams of the 60's a shot at an NFC title
Neil Lomax-injured finally had to retire early
Rosenbach-injured
Hearst-injured
Swann-injured
Moore-injured
Wadsworth-injured
Boldin-injured(twice)
Fitzgerald(high ankle sprain rookie season)
Boston-injured
KVB-injured
Starks-injured every other week
Ross-injured
Rolle-injured
etc.etc.etc.

Yea you get injuries playing football - more so than not.Some are better than others playing through some of them. Young doesn't have a real bad history of injury as far as I know of. He has the capability of carrying a team on his back. At 10 he'd be worth what little risk you have at that positiion for someone of his talent level.
 

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WildBB said:
Yea you get injuries playing football - more so than not.Some are better than others playing through some of them. Young doesn't have a real bad history of injury as far as I know of. He has the capability of carrying a team on his back. At 10 he'd be worth what little risk you have at that positiion for someone of his talent level.

But the Cards have a HISTORY of key players getting injured. They sign a solid Center in Gruttadoria and the guy spends most of his time in Arizona at the Doctors office. Knee injuries are as common as cactus. Bertrand Berry our best FA signing in years misses half of last season. When even the Q can't play 16 games a season you know it is NOT just the normal run of injuries but the continuation of a 50+ year old jinx.
 

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Profootball tlak is now reporting that whoever graded Vince's test did not grade it correctly.

The tests in his group have been graded again and will be distributed around the NFL later this week.
 

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ESPN is reporting that he actually scored something like a 16.
 

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When will you people (the people who frequent PFT) learn that ProfootballTalk is a load of crap? I honestly believe that they put anything up there to see how many suckers believe it.

16 is still low for a QB but not that bad. Vince Young at #10!
 

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When will you people (the people who frequent PFT) learn that ProfootballTalk is a load of crap? I honestly believe that they put anything up there to see how many suckers believe it.

16 is still low for a QB but not that bad. Vince Young at #10!

16 is waaaaaaaaay too low for a QB. Most score around 30. I'd be reluctant to take a guy with a score that low.
 
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