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It will be fun to see this unfold. The debate will finally be settled.


I dont think Leinart was going to be a probowler for us, but its almost impossible to imagine him not doing better than the Anderson/Hall combo last season.
 

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I think he will look like a rich man's version of Kevin Kolb. Slightly better arm, slightly more composed but still weak in both areas and a turnover machine.

After reading this I'm now convinced you don't know much about football. I know you're new to this site but did you watch Leinart when he played for the Cardinals?
 

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After reading this I'm now convinced you don't know much about football. I know you're new to this site but did you watch Leinart when he played for the Cardinals?

As I said. Leinart had a terrible arm. I am not complimenting Leinart. Kolb also has a terrible arm. He lofts passes, he cant hit guys down field unless he throws a moon ball to Larry in double coverage.

Leinart stunk, but I havnt seen anything from Kolb that makes me think he is any better, and they are remarkably similar players. Which makes cutting one and creating a hole, then trading for his right handed copy to fill the hole, a baffling move.
 

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I think Leinart will be fine, but something tells me he is telling the coaching staff about now "Start? Am I not the third string QB? Do I really have to start??" lol

Leinart was a Prima Donna in Arizona. He thought he was a privileged character and wasn't putting in the time and effort required to be a great NFL QB. That is why CKW let him go. If you do the web research you can read all about it.

So how he does in Houston will depend not on the strength of his arm but the strength of his character.
 

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I did Mulli's bet push ups, I stand by my grade till I see it on the field, Matty was far and away the best QB on our team when Whiz cut him in the stupidest football personell decision We have ever witnessed- in a long futile history of stupid football personell decisions.

I had Kolb graded at 80 and Matty at 90, Skelton is climbing up to 78 or so. Hate on me all you want but Matts decision to stay on the best team in the AFC instead of signing with the worse team in the NFCW, which happens to be the worse division in the history of earth. It was a great decision for Houston and Matt leinart- He must have stayed an extra year and graduated from THE U-S-C!

Matt leinart is the best pure passer coming out of college in a lot of years. Luck is not even close. I could explain it with depth and weight again, He can roll right or left and throw accurate in any direction at full speed. He is great but not the best at any QB skill set but has no glaring weakness as an all around NFL QB.

I'm trying to get behind Whiz and horton one more time, We are improving and it looks like headed in the right direction.
Beanie is not a back up which was almost as stupid by Whiz and Miller. Beanie is a star on our team and is more important than even Fitz week in and week out.

Matt Leinart is the best back up QB in the NFL, barely behind Shaub on my list, in the top 15. there is enough room in the Texan's record for him to grow into it a few games and prepare for the playoffs. I will take the heat but will say this.

The Houston Texans just got better long term when Schaub went down. Schaub has experience and wisdom, but not elite skill sets?
Matt Leinart is more capable of completion percentage, and perfect QB rating every Sunday than Schaub ever was. And schaub is a great consistant top 10 QB every year!

If Matty does play elite, as I expect, I will proclaim the throne and crown as the King and Master of your universe! Ha HA

Matt is way better than Elite Eli Manning, The Eli, Peyton and matty commercials will be back soon enough, with a new twist! Matty as the leader!








It's put up or shut up for you and your boy Matty. It's been years of "I have Leinart graded as elite, he's a top 15 QB." If he goes out there over the last 7 games and doesn't get it done, I don't expect to hear any of this talk anymore. People have written Kolb off after 7 games without any prior experience in the system, and Leinart has had a year and a half to learn that system and should be able to go out and perform. If he does, I'll keep my mouth shut and let you say whatever you want. If he doesn't, I expect that you'll keep your mouth shut on the situation once and for all! Should be fun!! :D

And, for the record, I hope he does very well.
 
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Tough break for the Texans. It'd really suck if this stops them from getting over the hump and making the playoffs finally.

Hopefully Leinart does well for their sake as well as his own. :)
 

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So far the same problems that Matt tried to lead the cardinals away from, have been front and center through 5 other QB's. Matt leinart was not the problem, He was the solution, now He is the solution for the Texans, not Grossman!

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33315198

One of the knocks on Leinart after he got his walking papers was that he he didn't have the disposition coaches look for in their franchise quarterback. In September 2010, after the Cardinals released him, ESPN.com's NFC West blogger Mike Sando wrote: "Leinart could have made this work if he had played by Whisenhunt's rules. He wasn't willing (or possibly able) to do that under difficult circumstances. He complained and pouted and made it impossible for Whisenhunt to name Leinart the leader of a locker room filled with players more closely aligned with the Whisenhunt mindset."

Head coach Gary Kubiak was asked Monday just how ready Leinart was to step into the starting role.

“Well that’s why he’s here. That’s why he came back. He liked his opportunity here. He liked this football team. He likes what we do offensively," said Kubiak. "You never know how an opportunity is going to occur, but here we go. It’s a big one for him and his career. He’s had a lot of reps. We’ve cut back on Matt (Schaub)’s reps the last month at practice so he (Leinart) has gotten a ton of reps.

"[Leinart] has played in big football games in this league. He’s played a lot of football. He’s played in big football games in college. Matt has been around it, but the key is that the whole football team rally around him and playing well as a football team. Matt doesn’t have to go win a game. The team has to go win a game. We’ll rally around him and get him ready to go.”

The former USC star and Heisman Trophy winner last saw significant action in 2007, when he started five games for the Cardinals before a fractured collarbone paved the way for a Kurt Warner comeback. He completed 53.6 percent of his passes that season, throwing 2 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. Leinart started 11 games as a rookie in '06, where he had 11 TDs and 12 picks.




Tough break for the Texans. It'd really suck if this stops them from getting over the hump and making the playoffs finally.

Hopefully Leinart does well for their sake as well as his own. :)
 

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Matt now is in a situation with a good D and some quality talent around him on offense and a coach that will use his abilities to be successful. He won't be asked to be Kurt Warner he will be asked to be leinart and will probably excell. Should be interesting if he does will give the media even more to criticize us for cutting him to go with freaking d wreck last season. Still one of the single most dumb decisions I have ever seen!
 

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Matt now is in a situation with a good D and some quality talent around him on offense and a coach that will use his abilities to be successful. He won't be asked to be Kurt Warner he will be asked to be leinart and will probably excell. Should be interesting if he does will give the media even more to criticize us for cutting him to go with freaking d wreck last season. Still one of the single most dumb decisions I have ever seen!

Agreed, when that was announced I wanted to vomit. Anderson was easily the worst QB the Cards ran out during the PRESEASON, and somehow he ends up being the starter. Before the last preseason game when Whiz stunningly promoted Anderson to 1st string, I was talking about how mad I would be if Anderson even made the roster.

I thought a lot of Whiz before that move, and it shook my confidence in him more than anything he has done here. Its not so much that he dumped Leinart, the guy had played decidedly mediocre and did not show much of a willingness to improve, but to replace him with that pile of freaking trash and basically end the season before the first kickoff? Disgusting.
 

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78% completions by Matt that preseason under constant blitz! While the HC is doing everything possible to blow your confidence and make you fail, inclding saying he had an open door policy and than killing Matts career for using it! sent a message to Beanie and others!
Leave ASAP!

I don't think that was bad football, on this team what Matt did in preseason, Don't think Brees, Brady or Peyton gets 78% with no rushing yards under blitz. We seen what DA, Hall, Skelton and Bartel and now Kolb does with Whiz's scheme.. Choke Choke



Agreed, when that was announced I wanted to vomit. Anderson was easily the worst QB the Cards ran out during the PRESEASON, and somehow he ends up being the starter. Before the last preseason game when Whiz stunningly promoted Anderson to 1st string, I was talking about how mad I would be if Anderson even made the roster.

I thought a lot of Whiz before that move, and it shook my confidence in him more than anything he has done here. Its not so much that he dumped Leinart, the guy had played decidedly mediocre and did not show much of a willingness to improve, but to replace him with that pile of freaking trash and basically end the season before the first kickoff? Disgusting.
 

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the masochist in me kinda wants Matt to succeed. remains to be seen if he's got "it" but he'll never have a better chance to prove it taking over a team tied for the best record in the conference.

edit: and holy crap... looking at their schedule, if he can't succeed against a powder puff line-up of teams in front of him, he'll be done forever. it doesn't get much easier than Jax, Atlanta, Cincy, Carolina, Indy and Tennesse. I mean, he gets three of the worst teams in the league and a couple mediocre clubs in Tenn and Atlanta.
 
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