Scooby Wright

[b8rtm8nn]

I take the opposite approach than most regarding the combine. I watch very little of it and take all the times with a grain of salt. If you want to know about a player you watch tape. There is the only place you will find if a guy is a true football player or not. JMO, but I will go by football instincts and desire, then speed, then size. Give me football players not track stars.

+1

 

[TJ]

His pro day is going to be very important.

 

[DVontel]

I take the opposite approach than most regarding the combine. I watch very little of it and take all the times with a grain of salt. If you want to know about a player you watch tape. There is the only place you will find if a guy is a true football player or not. JMO, but I will go by football instincts and desire, then speed, then size. Give me football players not track stars.

And after watching tape, I hope we pass on Scooby, unless he's there in the 4th.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I take the opposite approach than most regarding the combine. I watch very little of it and take all the times with a grain of salt. If you want to know about a player you watch tape. There is the only place you will find if a guy is a true football player or not. JMO, but I will go by football instincts and desire, then speed, then size. Give me football players not track stars.

I think you take the T-shirt Olympics and watch the tape and hope they line up with what you want. I think Scooby came out too early and needed to let the knee heal for another year, as it usually takes a year and a half to return to form. He ran very poorly and I think that will drop him into a late third early fourth round pick. Which is what I thought he was anyway.

 

[oaken1]

I think you take the T-shirt Olympics and watch the tape and hope they line up with what you want. I think Scooby came out too early and needed to let the knee heal for another year, as it usually takes a year and a half to return to form. He ran very poorly and I think that will drop him into a late third early fourth round pick. Which is what I thought he was anyway.

I was kinda hoping we could get him in the fourth. His knee is still fresh...I am sure he will be faster come September than he was at the combine.

 

[Mitch]

Love the production in college...Scooby is a real baller, but realistically, because of his physical limitations, he might not get drafted.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I was kinda hoping we could get him in the fourth. His knee is still fresh...I am sure he will be faster come September than he was at the combine.

I think your right, the only thing is I think we already have an ISLB that is the same player in Kevin Minter. SW football IQ might be higher though.

 

[TJ]

Love the production in college...Scooby is a real baller, but realistically, because of his physical limitations, he might not get drafted.

Might not get drafted? That's about as likely as the Cards trading Calais to Buffalo for a 3rd round pick.

 

[TJ]

I was kinda hoping we could get him in the fourth. His knee is still fresh...I am sure he will be faster come September than he was at the combine.

Scooby had a meniscus tear, which was the same thing Mike Iupati had. Very minor injury, although Scooby came back way too early from it and subsequently injured his foot (that's the real injury that kept him out, not the knee).

Probably the most encouraging film on Scooby is from the New Mexico Bowl game. Was completely out of football shape, hadn't played in three months, and yet still had 2 sacks, 15 tackles and 3 TFLs.

BTW--Scooby had a 4.73 40 in high school.

 

[Mitch]

Might not get drafted? That's about as likely as the Cards trading Calais to Buffalo for a 3rd round pick.

Pat Tillman was a 7th round pick. Smallish LBers with sub par speed, no matter how productive they were in college typically go very late in the draft, if at all.

That said, if Scooby is available in the 5th-7th rounds on Day 3, I'd be happy if the Cardinals take him. I think he could improve our STs and eventually work his way into a role on the defense.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Scooby looked a little chubby and out of shape at the combine IMO.

 

[TJ]

Pat Tillman was a 7th round pick. Smallish LBers with sub par speed, no matter how productive they were in college typically go very late in the draft, if at all.



That said, if Scooby is available in the 5th-7th rounds on Day 3, I'd be happy if the Cardinals take him. I think he could improve our STs and eventually work his way into a role on the defense.

Not a good comparison. Tillman went late because he was a linebacker turned safety; and Tillman wasn't nearly as dominant as Scooby in college.

Scooby is not a smallish linebacker. He's about average size but plays bigger than his frame. I encourage you to watch some game film before making general statements. There's a reason why he won almost all but one of the defensive/linebacker awards in one season as a true sophomore.

 

[football karma]

I think whomever gets Wright gets Chris Borland 2.0

I think he is really good, I think he plays way faster than 4.9, and if he is there in the 4th you take him

Minter is in the last year of his contract, and, who is backing him up now?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I think whomever gets Wright gets Chris Borland 2.0

I think he is really good, I think he plays way faster than 4.9, and if he is there in the 4th you take him

Minter is in the last year of his contract, and, who is backing him up now?

I would even take him in the third since we are drafting at the end of the round.

 

[Finito]

Scooby will go in rounds 2-3 and would have been a lock for the first had he not gotten hurt.

 

[Mitch]

I think whomever gets Wright gets Chris Borland 2.0

I think he is really good, I think he plays way faster than 4.9, and if he is there in the 4th you take him

Minter is in the last year of his contract, and, who is backing him up now?

Borland's 40: 4.83; Scooby's: 4.9

Borlands' reps at 225: 27; Scooby's: 22.

Borland's Vertical Jump: 31"; Scooby's 31"

Borland's Broad Jump: 114; Scooby's: 113

Borland's 20 yard shuttle: 4.27; Scooby's: 4.47

The comparison has excellent merit, although by these numbers it would appear that Borland was a little stronger and quicker. Scooby's 4.47 in the 20 yard shuttle did not help make up for his sub par 40. He will need to improve these numbers at his pro day.

 

[Finito]

Eric Striker is one of the single fastest players off the edge I've ever seen and he just ran 4.84 not to fast.

The combine matters but film and interviews matters more

 

[Mitch]

Not a good comparison. Tillman went late because he was a linebacker turned safety; and Tillman wasn't nearly as dominant as Scooby in college.

Scooby is not a smallish linebacker. He's about average size but plays bigger than his frame. I encourage you to watch some game film before making general statements. There's a reason why he won almost all but one of the defensive/linebacker awards in one season as a true sophomore.

Not only have I watched the tape (as I said he's a real baller and I would be happy of the Cardinals took him---I could see him taking over for Minter in a year or two), but I watched him at the Combine today and next to the other LBers he looked small and not nearly as athletic.

It's a speed league now TJ...LBers have to be able to have the speed to cover. I think Scooby can do the job, I just don't think the scouts will be sold on him as a top 150 pick. I think he will be drafted, but likely in the 5th round at the earliest.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Minter beat Scooby across the board and we complain about his lack of athleticism... Scooby in the agility drills was pathetic... College production does not guarantee NFL success. Just ask Tebow

 

[Finito]

Minter beat Scooby across the board and we complain about his lack of athleticism... Scooby in the agility drills was pathetic... College production does not guarantee NFL success. Just ask Tebow

Good combine numbers don't guarantee NFL success. Just ask a ton of guys over the years

 

[Ohcrap75]

Good combine numbers don't guarantee NFL success. Just ask a ton of guys over the years

I agree. But i am saying that Minter is a better athlete than Scooby and not sure how that can be debated. I want an upgrade from Minter and Scooby is not an upgrade

 

[Finito]

I agree. But i am saying that Minter is a better athlete than Scooby and not sure how that can be debated. I want an upgrade from Minter and Scooby is not an upgrade

Have you actually watched either of them play? Two completely different players.

Film and game numbers don't lie

 

[Mitch]

Have you actually watched either of them play? Two completely different players.

Film and game numbers don't lie

The problem is, the only position Scooby translates to with the Cardinals is Minter's spot. Now---could Scooby wind up being a good 2 down LB? I think he can, but he is going to have to convince the NFL coaches and scouts that he can.

Here's the reason too why he won't be a first or second night pick---in an age where nickel defenses play 67% of the time, NFL teams are geared toward adding versatility and speed, especially in the first 4-5 rounds.

 

[Finito]

The problem is, the only position Scooby translates to with the Cardinals is Minter's spot. Now---could Scooby wind up being a good 2 down LB? I think he can, but he is going to have to convince the NFL coaches and scouts that he can.

Here's the reason too why he won't be a first or second night pick---in an age where nickel defenses play 67% of the time, NFL teams are geared toward adding versatility and speed, especially in the first 4-5 rounds.

Ok

 

[Phrazbit]

The problem is, the only position Scooby translates to with the Cardinals is Minter's spot. Now---could Scooby wind up being a good 2 down LB? I think he can, but he is going to have to convince the NFL coaches and scouts that he can.

Here's the reason too why he won't be a first or second night pick---in an age where nickel defenses play 67% of the time, NFL teams are geared toward adding versatility and speed, especially in the first 4-5 rounds.

I don't have any doubt whatsoever that Wright would be more effective as a 3rd down back than Minter. The guy causes havoc in the defensive backfield.