Screw Game 5 of the Finals...

[FArting]

Congrats Tiger

 

[HooverDam]

Any sports fan that can't appreciate Tiger Woods well isn't much of a sports fan, and only goofballs who haven't played golf don't think its a sport. As a matter of fact its one of the single most skillful sports on the planet.

Bologna. I've played golf many times, my Dad is a golf pro, its not a sport. Its very skillful, but so is chess. Is chess a sport? Of course not, its not athletic. There is only very minimal athleticism involved in golf, which basically consists of "can you walk around outside for a few hours?". By that measure, walking to the grocery store is a sport.

Also two words to back up my point: John Daly. Also, that fat guy who won while smoking a cigar a while back.

Golf is a very skillfull outdoor activity, like horseshoes. But it is NOT a sport.

 

[nashman]

Golf that you play may not be a sport, PGA Golf is a sport period, believe what you want it just makes you sound silly.

 

[nashman]

Yeah plenty of guys out there making millions and millions of dollars just doing outdoor activies as you put it! Right...

 

[Rivercard]

Golf that you play may not be a sport, PGA Golf is a sport period, believe what you want it just makes you sound silly.

So it's only a sport when the really good players do it?

 

[cobbler]

Bologna. I've played golf many times, my Dad is a golf pro, its not a sport. Its very skillful, but so is chess. Is chess a sport? Of course not, its not athletic. There is only very minimal athleticism involved in golf, which basically consists of "can you walk around outside for a few hours?". By that measure, walking to the grocery store is a sport.

Also two words to back up my point: John Daly. Also, that fat guy who won while smoking a cigar a while back.

Golf is a very skillfull outdoor activity, like horseshoes. But it is NOT a sport.

Two words to refute your backup: Babe Ruth (another cigar smoking fat guy)

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

While golf may or may not be a sport, Tiger is one of the best athletes on the planet.

 

[Errntknght]

Also two words to back up my point: John Daly.

Two words of rebuttal: Oliver Miller.

Heck, there are sports where being fat is a plus - sumo wrestling, for instance, and weight lifting. You could almost add defensive linemen in football or shot-putting.

 

[Raindog]

Two words to refute your backup: Babe Ruth (another cigar smoking fat guy)

I don't think Babe ever hit a home run while actually smoking a cigar, though. At least it doesn't show up on the highlight reels...

Personally, I think of golf as a "pastime" rather than a sport. In other words, a "sport" for non-athletes, like race car driving.

And don't even get me started on the idiots who want to classify poker as a sport...

 

[HooverDam]

Yeah plenty of guys out there making millions and millions of dollars just doing outdoor activies as you put it! Right...

So if you make millions of dollars, it makes you an athlete? So then poker players and real estate agents are athletes? Im not following the logic.

Golf that you play may not be a sport, PGA Golf is a sport period, believe what you want it just makes you sound silly.

Have you played on the PGA tour? Somehow I doubt it. All they do is swing a club, and walk to the next shot, thats not physically demanding. Now, if they had to run between shots, and the whole thing had a points system determined by fastest finisher, then it might be a sport.

Two words to refute your backup: Babe Ruth (another cigar smoking fat guy)

Babe Ruth played baseball against a bunch of other slow, out of shape white guys. If he played today, he'd probably have to be in better shape.

Two words of rebuttal: Oliver Miller.

And when the Big O couldn't control his weight, what happened to him? he was in and out of the league, or buried deep on a bench. When he played in Phoenix in 92, he was big, but not ridiculous (like he was in his T-Wolves days).

If a bunch of out of shape 60 year olds want to play golf on the weekend want to call it a sport, thats fine. Do whatever makes you feel good. I'll be playing basketball, an actual sport, with my friends until I physically am unable to anymore.

 

[cobbler]

Babe Ruth played baseball against a bunch of other slow, out of shape white guys. If he played today, he'd probably have to be in better shape.

Hmmmmmm. Cecil Fielder, David Wells, John Kruk, C.C. Sabathia, Tony Gwynn, Fernando Valenzuela, David Ortiz. etc...

That's just a few that come to mind in baseball. Every interior lineman in the NFL is fat, save a few.

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

Sorry for not letting everyone know this was a golf thread. But ******** this was a entertaining last two days. This was truly special, a once in a lifetime tourney.

 

[nowagimp]

In the republic today they had an article about great athletes who played through injury, starting with tiger walking up those nasty torre pines hills with his bad knee.

they also spoke of:

Donovan McNabb playing 3/4 of a game(against the cards) with a broken ankle, and completing 20/25 passes w/ the ankle

Muhammad Ali refusing to quit when Norton broke his jaw, fought for 10 more rounds

Schilling pitching the redsox to a world series win with his torn and stapled tendon/bloody ankle.

Dennis Johnson playing game 7 in the NBA finals against the lakers with a broken wrist.

When I started to think about it, I started laughing so hard I almost choked on my food. Comparing tigers knee walking around on a golf course to those other guys and what they went through seemed so out of place.

 

[cobbler]

If a bunch of out of shape 60 year olds want to play golf on the weekend want to call it a sport, thats fine. Do whatever makes you feel good. I'll be playing basketball, an actual sport, with my friends until I physically am unable to anymore.

Not quite sure of your point here. So if your 60 and playing a pickup game of basketball, you are not playing a sport?

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

In the republic today they had an article about great athletes who played through injury, starting with tiger walking up those nasty torre pines hills with his bad knee.

they also spoke of:

Donovan McNabb playing 3/4 of a game(against the cards) with a broken ankle, and completing 20/25 passes w/ the ankle

Muhammad Ali refusing to quit when Norton broke his jaw, fought for 10 more rounds

Schilling pitching the redsox to a world series win with his torn and stapled tendon/bloody ankle.

Dennis Johnson playing game 7 in the NBA finals against the lakers with a broken wrist.

When I started to think about it, I started laughing so hard I almost choked on my food. Comparing tigers knee walking around on a golf course to those other guys and what they went through seemed so out of place.

I dont think you understood the article. It wasnt talking about Tiger walking around. It was talking about how Tiger is still in this even though his knee is ****ed up. Do you understand how hard it is to hit a ball 300 yards accurately when you arent balanced because of your knee? One slight change in how he swings/hits the ball and he is screwed. It's a miracle that he won this thing playing with that kind of handicap. People that play golf a lot will back me on that.

 

[nashman]

Its just idiots that don't play golf that don't realize the athleticism involved in it. The way Tiger swings a golf club would break some peoples knees he puts a tremendous amount of torque and stress when he swings. Golf will cause more serious injuries to your body than most sports but since some don't think its a sport... whatever get a clue!

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I can't hit the ball that straight even if I used my third leg...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I dont think you understood the article. It wasnt talking about Tiger walking around. It was talking about how Tiger is still in this even though his knee is ****ed up. Do you understand how hard it is to hit a ball 300 yards accurately when you arent balanced because of your knee? One slight change in how he swings/hits the ball and he is screwed. It's a miracle that he won this thing playing with that kind of handicap. People that play golf a lot will back me on that.

People who play golf just a few times a year will agree with you too.

Golf is the hardest sport I have ever played, and it isn't even close.

 

[HooverDam]

Hmmmmmm. Cecil Fielder, David Wells, John Kruk, C.C. Sabathia, Tony Gwynn, Fernando Valenzuela, David Ortiz. etc...

That's just a few that come to mind in baseball. Every interior lineman in the NFL is fat, save a few.

Most of those baseball guys you've listed are pitchers and 1st baseman, positions where cardiovascular ability isn't too important. In the case of football lineman, those guys (like sumo wrestlers) are strong. I never said being fat doesn't mean you're not strong. In golf however, strength isn't a huge factor. Its more about the timing of your swing, than trying to just kill it with muscle.

Not quite sure of your point here. So if your 60 and playing a pickup game of basketball, you are not playing a sport?

No, my point was I think most older men who play golf tell themselves its a sport so that they can feel good about themselves. Its great that they're being active, and getting outside, but its not a sport.

 

[nowagimp]

The way Tiger swings a golf club would break some peoples knees he puts a tremendous amount of torque and stress when he swings. Golf will cause more serious injuries to your body than most sports but since some don't think its a sport... whatever get a clue!

Yeah I understand the golfers get more serious injuries than thes sissy basketball players with their sprains, tears, ACL ripouts, meniscal tears, and microfacture. And football players last much longer in their careers than golfers, well ... maybe not. Damn Bynum is lucky he wasnt golfing, could have ended his career. Golfers are such athletes, you guys have never seen phil mickelson or vijay singh dunk have you? These guys come into the gym and all the gymrats scatter, go home.

Seriously, golf is a difficult game, as is chess. Tennis is also very difficult, and very physical. Playing golf well is an achievement, no doubt. But if your bball game is less physical than your golf game you are one sad puppy on the court.

 

[D-Dogg]

Seriously, golf is a difficult game, as is chess. Tennis is also very difficult, and very physical. Playing golf well is an achievement, no doubt. But if your bball game is less physical than your golf game you are one sad puppy on the court.

So is tennis also not a sport in your eyes?

 

[AfroSuns]

Any sports fan that can't appreciate Tiger Woods well isn't much of a sports fan, and only goofballs who haven't played golf don't think its a sport. As a matter of fact its one of the single most skillful sports on the planet.

That has to be most idiotic statement i have read in a sports forum in a while, so i have to love all sports to be considered a sports fan, i know the sports i like and the sports i like, most of em i have played. We wont be having this argument if this thread had been aptly named Tiger woods....something, God knows i wont click on it, because i don't like Golf. We don't all have to like what you like. Deal with it

Its just idiots that don't play golf that don't realize the athleticism involved in it. The way Tiger swings a golf club would break some peoples knees he puts a tremendous amount of torque and stress when he swings. Golf will cause more serious injuries to your body than most sports but since some don't think its a sport... whatever get a clue!

I am sure me grandpappy is better than you in golf, does that mean he is more athletic than you, going by your last couple of posts, i wont be surprised.

 

[elindholm]

Golf is a sport because the primary challenge is a physical one. That is not true for poker or chess. Is golf as strenuous as basketball or football, no, of course not. But neither is baseball. An outfielder might get only a few balls hit his way and four plate appearances in a nine-inning game. Half of the rest of the time is standing in one place and the other half is sitting.

If the only real sports are ones in which your heart rate is elevated all the time, it's a pretty select category. Otherwise, any definition that accepts baseball must accept golf.

 

[Skkorpion]

I like watching major golf tournaments and NBA playoffs and there are a few very notable differences in favor of golf:

1. The best player in golf didn't rape anybody.
2. The best player in golf almost always rises to the occasion.
3. The PGA commisioner didn't influence the number and identity of the participants and none of the PGA officials fixed any outcomes.
4. The PGA officials didn't apply any rules differently for different players any of majors I've seen.
5. Nobody flops in golf, not even the Europeans.

A few additional things right now:

1. Usually the NBA finals are more exciting to me than most golf majors. Not this year. The Celtics-Lakers series has been boring and the players' in-your-face braggadocio and smack talking just plain tiresome.

2. Started out hoping the Lakers would win. Now I wish they'd both lose. Ugly boring play on the court. I can't even stay interested by hating either team. They aren't worthy of a good healthy root-against.

3. Probably won't watch the next game in Boston and probably won't watch another PGA major either, for a while, if Woods doesn't play. Mickelson is a fraud and the game needs some new stars with charisma.

 

[nashman]

AfroSuns if you honestly think that golf isn't a sport your apparently just living in a different world. Its a sport plain and simple as much as baseball, tennis and more, just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything. And if your grandpappy has any money he wants to lose I will play golf with him any day of the week, tell him $100 a hole and to bring all $1800 he will need every penny. If I could find a few suckers like that I would play golf full time like I almost did a few years back. Still scratch so tell grandpappy to bring it, and I would suggest you actually try to play golf before you start spouting how its not a sport.