Screw Game 5 of the Finals...

[nashman]

Skorp come on man Mickelson a fraud? You are aware besides Tiger he has more wins than anyone else playing right? By a large margin as well. If not for Tiger, Phil may very well have 9 or 10 majors would he be a fraud then? Bad timing for Phil that the best golfer in the world is dominating during his career, but he is no fraud.

 

[AfroSuns]

AfroSuns if you honestly think that golf isn't a sport your apparently just living in a different world. Its a sport plain and simple as much as baseball, tennis and more, just because you don't like it doesn't mean anything. And if your grandpappy has any money he wants to lose I will play golf with him any day of the week, tell him $100 a hole and to bring all $1800 he will need every penny. If I could find a few suckers like that I would play golf full time like I almost did a few years back. Still scratch so tell grandpappy to bring it, and I would suggest you actually try to play golf before you start spouting how its not a sport.

Not once in any of my post did i say Golf is not a sport, I didn't even bring up athleticism in golf until you did and yes you don't have to be athletic to play the game. if an arthritic old man's handicap is better than blokes half his age (i.e Nashman) then how much physical activity is really exerted playing it, No doubt Tiger is great athlete, hence the butt whooping over the years.
Go ahead, hone your Golf skills on that PS2 Tiger Woods PGA Tour as you do your basketball because if you have really played both sport you will know there is no comparison between the two.

 

[nowagimp]

So is tennis also not a sport in your eyes?

tennis is a sport as is golf, I never said either wasnt. The difference is that tennis is very physical, it requires athletic skills way above golf.

 

[nashman]

your comparing golf to basketball clearly 2 different things. And I seriously doubt your old grandpappy has a better handicap than scratch thats just stupid, it doesn't count from the ladies tees. And I have played many sports and golf is the hardest skillwise. I never said basketball wasn't more physical maybe you need to learn to read, I was responding to the many which I thought included you that said golf was not a sport. And yes their are many injuries in golf as I stated because a good golf swing can stress and hurt many different parts of the body. I double checked you were just bitching about this being in the Suns section not about it being a sport. And again your grandpappy playing golf is not the same as PGA Tour competition, competitive golf is a different animal and if YOU had every played any you would know that. People that think pro golf is just going out and whack a ball around have no clue.

 

[AfroSuns]

your comparing golf to basketball clearly 2 different things. And I seriously doubt your old grandpappy has a better handicap than scratch thats just stupid, it doesn't count from the ladies tees. And I have played many sports and golf is the hardest skillwise. I never said basketball wasn't more physical maybe you need to learn to read, I was responding to the many which I thought included you that said golf was not a sport. And yes their are many injuries in golf as I stated because a good golf swing can stress and hurt many different parts of the body. I double checked you were just bitching about this being in the Suns section not about it being a sport. And again your grandpappy playing golf is not the same as PGA Tour competition, competitive golf is a different animal and if YOU had every played any you would know that. People that think pro golf is just going out and whack a ball around have no clue.

Like i said before we wouldnt be having this convo if the thread had been aptly named, there are other threads i skipped but i obviously ruffled your feathers by making a simple observation, judging by your reply;

don't look at the thread if you don't like it, there is no golf section!

Which is a silly comment considering what the title says.
Kudos to Bayless for the ingenuity of the title, as what could have been one of the most boring thread have now garnered 6 pages.

 

[D-Dogg]

tennis is a sport as is golf, I never said either wasnt. The difference is that tennis is very physical, it requires athletic skills way above golf.

Gotcha. Agreed.

 

[abomb]

The ratings were off the charts for Monday's playoff. Higher than Saturday. Higher than last year's NBA Finals.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The ratings were off the charts for Monday's playoff. Higher than Saturday. Higher than last year's NBA Finals.

imagine if they could have shown it during primetime....

 

[TheHopToad]

Golf is a sport, because Wikipedia says it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf

Did you know that golf originated in Scotland in the 1100's? Fascinating. It's also the only sport that has been played on the moon, or any other celestial body for that matter.

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[AfroSuns]

The ratings were off the charts for Monday's playoff. Higher than Saturday. Higher than last year's NBA Finals.

No surprise there, international participation, international broadcast.

 

[Rivercard]

Golf is a sport because the primary challenge is a physical one.

Well, so is "Hide and Seek" but we call that a game. Elevating Golf, Bowling, Chess, Poker, Hide And Seek, Hunting, and Fishing to sport status would be an insult to athletes everywhere.

 

[nowagimp]

The ratings were off the charts for Monday's playoff. Higher than Saturday. Higher than last year's NBA Finals.

Yeah the ratings for last years NBA finals were of the charts allright, and not in a good way. American Idol reruns crushed them.

 

[elindholm]

Well, so is "Hide and Seek" but we call that a game.

No it isn't. Searching for something isn't a "physical" challenge. It's also not a sport if I drop my contact lens on the kitchen floor.

Elevating Golf, Bowling, Chess, Poker, Hide And Seek, Hunting, and Fishing to sport status would be an insult to athletes everywhere.

Another person who can't read. If you'd made it past the first eight words of my post, you would have understood that my definition excludes chess and poker. Bowling is a sport. Fishing is a lot more strategy than physical skill, so I would say it is not a sport. I haven't hunted so I don't know where it falls. Hunting and archery are superficially similar, and archery is an olympic sport, so maybe hunting is too.

 

[Mulli]

Golf is a sport because the primary challenge is a physical one. That is not true for poker or chess. Is golf as strenuous as basketball or football, no, of course not. But neither is baseball. An outfielder might get only a few balls hit his way and four plate appearances in a nine-inning game. Half of the rest of the time is standing in one place and the other half is sitting.

If the only real sports are ones in which your heart rate is elevated all the time, it's a pretty select category. Otherwise, any definition that accepts baseball must accept golf.

I would agree with that.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would agree with that.

third.

 

[abomb]

third.

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[nowagimp]

No it isn't. Searching for something isn't a "physical" challenge. It's also not a sport if I drop my contact lens on the kitchen floor.



Bowling is a sport. Fishing is a lot more strategy than physical skill, so I would say it is not a sport. I haven't hunted so I don't know where it falls. Hunting and archery are superficially similar, and archery is an olympic sport, so maybe hunting is too.

Fishing is also a sport, AKA "sportfishing", pulling in a big marlin or tuna or another sport fish can be an exhausting challenge. Now the question can be asked: do these "sports" require athleticism? That is a physical activity requiring forceful exertion or intense energy. Considering the degree of forceful exertion and intense energy, golf does not ran very high in the athletic sports.

high athleticism: (high intensity, near continuous exertion)

basketball, soccer, hockey, football, tennis, boxing, track and field, swimming


low to moderate athleticism:

baseball, hunting, golf, sport fishing, race car driving


For these reasons, I have never considered baseball players or golfers as particularly strong athletes, as a rule. There are exceptions to every rule, some great athletes do play baseball, but its not a requirement to be a baseball player, the same with golf. The greatest athletic pursuits are in the first group.

 

[Rivercard]

No it isn't. Searching for something isn't a "physical" challenge.

It takes about as much physicality to swing a golf club and then walk to the ball as is does to hide in a tight spot, climb, and/or "bunker down" and keep still until being found.

Another person who can't read.

I wasn't referring to your post specifically.

 

[Chaplin]

It takes about as much physicality to swing a golf club and then walk to the ball as is does to hide in a tight spot, climb, and/or "bunker down" and keep still until being found.

Spoken from someone who most likely has never played golf. What if you're a designated hitter in baseball? I guess you wouldn't be an athlete, huh? I mean, all you're doing is swinging a bat at a ball.

 

[Rivercard]

Fishing is also a sport, AKA "sportfishing",

People who try to make a living from dropping lines in water call that a "sport" for marketing purposes.

 

[nashman]

By your standards rivercard, how much physically does it take to shoot a basketball and the run down the court? Thats just dumb, anybody can swing a golf club or shoot a basketball or catch a football that doesn't qualify any of us to be professional athletes. Golf is a sport a very largely watched and played sport with enormous amounts of money involved. Just because you can swing a golf club doesn't mean anyone can do what those guys can do, its a physically and mentally draining, stressful sport more so than alot of sports. I guess some people just can't grasp that concept.

 

[Rivercard]

Spoken from someone who most likely has never played golf. What if you're a designated hitter in baseball? I guess you wouldn't be an athlete, huh? I mean, all you're doing is swinging a bat at a ball.

I play the game of golf on occassion. To be honest I'm get more exhausted after playing games like hide and seek and jumping on the trampoline with my kid all day.

Baseball is cleary a team sport.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I play the game of golf on occassion. To be honest I'm get more exhausted after playing games like hide and seek and jumping on the trampoline with my kid all day.

Baseball is cleary a team sport.

If you can play 18 holes in this heat and not be exausted, you are a better athlete than I.

I played 4 or 5 weeks ago when it was only 100 and it was hot.

 

[Rivercard]

By your standards rivercard, how much physically does it take to shoot a basketball and the run down the court? Thats just dumb, anybody can swing a golf club or shoot a basketball or catch a football that doesn't qualify any of us to be professional athletes. Golf is a sport a very largely watched and played sport with enormous amounts of money involved. Just because you can swing a golf club doesn't mean anyone can do what those guys can do, its a physically and mentally draining, stressful sport more so than alot of sports. I guess some people just can't grasp that concept.

It was not me who was claiming physicality makes something (golf) a sport.

 

[AfroSuns]

I play the game of golf on occassion. To be honest I'm get more exhausted after playing games like hide and seek and jumping on the trampoline with my kid all day.

Baseball is cleary a team sport.

Very true