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I would love to see Kelemente inat either RG or LG. Hell if he showed well, you could arguably have 3/5 of the line set for the next 3 years. Trade back for Warmack if you wanted and get a legit QB, and we are a contender. Too bad that is a pipe dream.

Problem is chopper, we still have Levi coming back next year. Either one of the rook OTs are on the pine or Levi is axe bait, which I could libe with. I still hate that resigning. :mad:
 

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Problem is chopper, we still have Levi coming back next year. Either one of the rook OTs are on the pine or Levi is axe bait, which I could libe with. I still hate that resigning. :mad:

Meh, it will be a competition and Levi's contract isn't large enough to force him into the starting lineup. Anyway I look at it, I see three average OTs which is better than what we started the year with.
 

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Although I like Sendlein, I think we will see an upgrade at center with Rich Ohrnsberger. The guy is stronger and more stout at the point of attack and did a fine job coming in at RG. I am looking forward to seeing him fulltime at center.

Who says he gets the start?

Snyder is the backup gameday centre.
 
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How, exactly?


Because he's proved he can win with a good QB. But I also think he needs to fire Grimm & Miller, so he's not without warts. I will never buy that Warner was the OC, QB & coach all in one like many here think. I would give him 1 more year...he was 4-0 before his best QB & top 2 RBs went down for most of the season.

Who hired Ray Horton? I bet Wiz had no say in the talent that's been drafted on that side of the ball, that's the best in the history of its franchise.

How great was Bellicheat before he lucked into Tom Brady?

Did Andy Reid all of a sudden become a stupid coach?

IMO talent & coaching go hand in hand.
 

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sendlein must be a good guy,,cause is getting so much love from urban ,somers and jurecky..honestly he seems like an avarage player.but in this offensive line he could receive some praise considering who is playing next to him
 

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Really?

In Green Bay he was getting embarrassed, and I don't even want to talk about his game versus the Niners where he looked like a pop warner kid.

Sorry, don't see it, not at all. I see an undersized guard, who plays with his head down WAY too much, and is expected to move the pile when he is clearly over powered.

If he plays and there is an improvement at center it is more of an idictment of Sendlien IMO.

Ohrnberger is horrible.

Sorry dude. Just watched the 49er game just to make sure i posted correctly and Ohrnberger played well. He was beat on only one run block at the line and he was beat on one pass block. The only time he allowed a QB pressure was on the only stunt that he didn't pick up. So that means he only allowed one QB pressure for the whole game. I have watched him every game and he has been solid. I just don't see where you can think he is the worst O-linemen you have ever seen because I have seen many worse than him just on the Cardinals over the last five years.
 

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Because he's proved he can win with a good QB. But I also think he needs to fire Grimm & Miller, so he's not without warts. I will never buy that Warner was the OC, QB & coach all in one like many here think. I would give him 1 more year...he was 4-0 before his best QB & top 2 RBs went down for most of the season.

Who hired Ray Horton? I bet Wiz had no say in the talent that's been drafted on that side of the ball, that's the best in the history of its franchise.

How great was Bellicheat before he lucked into Tom Brady?

Did Andy Reid all of a sudden become a stupid coach?

IMO talent & coaching go hand in hand.
do u think the coach wiz has talent about finding talents and being able to turn talents in star players
 
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do u think the coach wiz has talent about finding talents and being able to turn talents in star players

He did turn around a defense that's probably the best in franchise history after mediocre results at best before last year. But I'm sure everyone will put that all on Horton.
 

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No he is not and if you don't believe me look at the official site where they say Orhnberger is expected to start.

Looking forward to the second coming of Tom Banks.
 
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I would love to see Kelemente inat either RG or LG. Hell if he showed well, you could arguably have 3/5 of the line set for the next 3 years. Trade back for Warmack if you wanted and get a legit QB, and we are a contender. Too bad that is a pipe dream.

If Potter can handle LT, I would move Levi back to RT and Massie to RG. Let Kelemente and Colledge battle for LG. Snyder can take a pay cut and be backup C/G.
 

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Looking forward to the second of Tom Banks.

Ohrnsberger's only weakness is in space. He is not the most nimble at the second level, but he has Conrad Dobler attitude and that is what I love about the guy. He is more stout at the POA and stays on his blocks. I can't see why anybody will be disappointed with that type of play.
 
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Ohrnsberger's only weakness is in space. He is not the most nimble at the second level, but he has Conrad Dobler attitude and that is what I love about the guy. He is more stout at the POA and stays on his blocks. I can't see why anybody will be disapointed with that type of play.

Sorry but I have serious reservations about a journeyman type being compared to Cardinal greats who were on a line that once gave up 5 sacks in a season.
 

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Sorry but I have serious reservations about a journeyman type being compared to Cardinal greats who were on a line that once gave up 5 sacks in a season.

I didn't say he was as good as Tom Banks. I think he will do a solid job for us and I believe he is a better center than Sendlein. And for the record it was 8 sacks the way I remember it.
 

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Without him," Colledge said, "the wheels just might come off."
 

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I didn't say he was as good as Tom Banks. I think he will do a solid job for us and I believe he is a better center than Sendlein. And for the record it was 8 sacks the way I remember it.

You're right. Typo. I post on a BlackBerry. Small print.
 

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I'm still giving Wiz a pass because i think hes a solid coach...Grimm & Miller, not!!!

Don't do that.

I was firmly in the replace Whiz camp last night and I'm starting to wobble. Mainly because I think Grimm is the coach who really has to go.

The frustration with him is reaching an all time high.
 

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He did turn around a defense that's probably the best in franchise history after mediocre results at best before last year. But I'm sure everyone will put that all on Horton.

I don't know about "everyone" but I sure will

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If Potter can handle LT, I would move Levi back to RT and Massie to RG. Let Kelemente and Colledge battle for LG. Snyder can take a pay cut and be backup C/G.

Now we want to move Massie to OG? Ugh. You people just don't get it do you? There is a reason the positions aren't just call offensive linemen. There are different sets of skills that go into playing EACH INDIVIDUAL position on the offensive line. Massie and Levi Brown do not possess the prerequisite skills to play OG.
 
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