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Here is the think with Graham though. I just don't think he can make the switch to OLB. The guy needs to play with his hand on the ground IMO.

Now that doesn't mean we still couldn't take him but if we did I think he should play Berry's old spot and not OLB. Berry rarely if ever actually played standing up, 90% of his playing time was with him as a 4-3 or 3-4 DE on passing downs with his hand on the ground.

Concerning Cody I think he gets taken off the board faster then people think. There are a ton of 3-4 teams now and that list might grow in 2010. 3-4 NT just might be the hardest position to find in a 3-4 so his services might go off the board faster then people think. Especially if he loses another 20-30 pounds by the end of Feb. for the combine. Plus besides the weigh in coaches and scout liked what they saw from Cody and the senior bowl practices.

Concerning 3-4 OLB and the transition of those players from DE to OLB. Interesting facts from walterfootball.com

"but teams are much more hesitant to take rush linebackers now because the conversion is so unpredictable. Just look at last year's results - no one in the top 15 selections took a rush linebacker. The Chargers (No. 16), Broncos (18) and Packers (26) went with one, but only Green Bay's selection (Clay Matthews) has panned out thus far.

It wasn't just last year; in 2008, the Jets were burnt by Gholston. They were the only team to gamble on a rush linebacker in the first round. I think some of these 3-4 guys will take a tumble come April. "

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_1.php

I dunno man, every mock draft site is projecting a 34 team to take Graham as a OLB. His measurables are more suited for OLB imo.
 

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Starting to think that if we picked up Sean Weatherspoon - WILB - at #26, we'd be making a good move.
 

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Gotta love Taylor Mays hearing all week he doesn't play the ball so what's he do, stops the last drive of the first half with an INT in the endzone.

I didnt know he's the son of the ex-Card Stafford Mays from the '80's.
 

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Here is the think with Graham though. I just don't think he can make the switch to OLB. The guy needs to play with his hand on the ground IMO.
I don't see why he can't. He played linebacker in high school so he is used to playing without a hand on the ground.
 
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I dunno man, every mock draft site is projecting a 34 team to take Graham as a OLB. His measurables are more suited for OLB imo.

There is a reason he never practiced at OLB at the senior bowl. The coaches usually let players practice at different positions that the scouts want to see them at.
 

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After watching today's Senior Bow, I can't see any team wasting a first round pick on Tebow. He is a major project for sure.
 

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I was trying to watch Punt Returners. Would love to see us get a DB/PR.
Javier Arenas looked pretty good but we probably already have him as far as CB goes in Michael Adams.
I thought Devin McCourty of Rutgers returned a punt in the game but I guess it was a KO. Does anyone remember? He looked pretty good whichever one it was. Kyle Wilson is a DB/PR but he will probably be gone by the time we get to thinking in terms of filling the PR job.
 

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I was trying to watch Punt Returners. Would love to see us get a DB/PR.
Javier Arenas looked pretty good but we probably already have him as far as CB goes in Michael Adams.
I thought Devin McCourty of Rutgers returned a punt in the game but I guess it was a KO. Does anyone remember? He looked pretty good whichever one it was. Kyle Wilson is a DB/PR but he will probably be gone by the time we get to thinking in terms of filling the PR job.

Wilson is a sure fire 1st round pick. I would love for him to last til 26th but I doubt that will happen. Having him and DRC at corner would go a long way to make our secondary great.
 

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I think he needs to be under 320. But also dont get me wrong he can be without a doubt effective under 320 at NT, by effective I mean above average. Just dont think a guy under 320 would ever be dominate at NT in a 3-4 at that weight, there never has been one to date, doesnt mean he cant be the first but I highly doubt it. He needs to stay in a 4-3 IMO.

Jay Ratliff is 300 and he's one of the best NT in the league. And that's his weight at the beginning of the year

(Note: This exception pretty much proves the rule....)
 

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I'd really love to have Odrick on our team, but we can't afford to take a 3-4 DE in the first 2 rounds, and I seriously doubt he'll be around after that.

Dang it, why does it have to be that, when we need a specific position that has a high-rated Penn State player available, he is the wrong player (Levi Brown)? And when there's a really good one there, we don't need that player? :D
 
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Jay Ratliff is 300 and he's one of the best NT in the league. And that's his weight at the beginning of the year

(Note: This exception pretty much proves the rule....)

True, but Ratliff also has two 300+ pound DE's surrounding him, as well.
 

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