Shawn Green to Mets?

[boondockdrunk]

August 12, 2006

WASHINGTON - The Mets have asked about Arizona's Shawn Green, a baseball official confirmed Friday night, but any deal could be held up by the fact that the outfielder has a no-trade clause that includes New York.

Green can be dealt to only three teams - the Padres, Angels or Dodgers - but he used that clause as a bargaining chip for a contract extension when he approved a trade from the Dodgers to Arizona before the 2005 season. Green has cleared waivers, thereby making him eligible to be traded to any team.

A person familiar with the situation said Friday that the Mets would want Arizona to pay half of Green's $9.5-million salary for next season and also pick up his $2-million buyout for 2008. The Mets might need another outfielder for the remainder of this season because of Cliff Floyd's health issues. He's currently on the DL with a sore Achilles.

At the moment, the Mets are trying to make do with Ricky Ledee, Michael Tucker, Endy Chavez and Lastings Milledge at the corner positions.

http://www.realgmbaseball.com/src_wiretap_archives/3328/20060812/mets_go_after_shawn_green/

 

[kps0001]

I think I missed something. When did Shawn Green clear waivers?

 

[Evil Ash]

I think I missed something. When did Shawn Green clear waivers?

48 hours after the nonwaiver trade deadline. Its not a story that somebody clears waivers, its only a story when somebody claims them (ie Andruw Jones)

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"Green had a closed-door meeting with Byrnes and D-Backs manager Bob Melvin after the team took batting practice Saturday just to keep the slugger in the loop on things."

http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com...t_id=1606985&vkey=news_ari&fext=.jsp&c_id=ari

 

[The Commish]

Hell I'll pay for the town car to take him to the airport. Please let's get this done.

 

[Lefty]

Please get this deal done.

 

[boondockdrunk]

I do not to get anyone's hopes up but I found this quote on the Met's ESPN Message Board:

I was just watching the Braves game on TBS and the announcers said that Shawn Green had just been traded to the New York Mets. He said the deal would be announced later. They were also saying this would be an upgrade over Chavez and Milledge. Can anyone look into this.

The boards have also reported that we are going to pay about half of his remaining salary (around 6-7 million for this year and next) and that the D'backs Front Office is asking for Bannister in return.

I did not expect to get much in return for unloading Green but Bannister is an interesting young pitcher who has been rumored to be included. He has been injured for most of the year yet, when he was healthy, he had a good ERA (2.89) even though his walk total was horrible (17 BBS in 28 innings). The scouting report on him is that he can be a solid back-of-the-rotation starter and is too hittable to have a higher ceiling. The interesting thing is that all reports say he has 5 different pitches (a 90-92 MPH fastball, a 12-6 curveball that is inconsistent, an average changeup, an average slider and an 87-88 MPH cut fastball), all of which he can locate well.

 

[devilfan02]

I do not to get anyone's hopes up but I found this quote on the Met's ESPN Message Board:



The boards have also reported that we are going to pay about half of his remaining salary (around 6-7 million for this year and next) and that the D'backs Front Office is asking for Bannister in return.

I did not expect to get much in return for unloading Green but Bannister is an interesting young pitcher who has been rumored to be included. He has been injured for most of the year yet, when he was healthy, he had a good ERA (2.89) even though his walk total was horrible (17 BBS in 28 innings). The scouting report on him is that he can be a solid back-of-the-rotation starter and is too hittable to have a higher ceiling. The interesting thing is that all reports say he has 5 different pitches (a 90-92 MPH fastball, a 12-6 curveball that is inconsistent, an average changeup, an average slider and an 87-88 MPH cut fastball), all of which he can locate well.

That would be an absolute STEAL

 

[Ryanwb]

I was watching the Braves game and they said the deal was rumored, nothing has happened yet

 

[boondockdrunk]

I was watching the Braves game and they said the deal was rumored, nothing has happened yet

According to WFAN in New York, the deal is done. All that is needed is for Green to waive his no-trade clause. Apparently, the D'backs will be recieving minor league LHP Evan MacLane.

Evan was the #30 prospect in a weak Mets organization and does not seem like a major leaguer. His fastball sits around the mid-80s and touches 87. He has a good change-up and pinpoint control but gives up too many hits. He seems like a career Triple-A player.

 

[devilfan02]

Brennaman just said that the Mets are waiting to see how Cloff Floyds achilles tendon progresses before they do the deal. Since he passed waivers they feel there is no rush. He didn't give any specifics on the deal but said that the deal is heating up

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"There are strong indications that the Diamondbacks will ask Shawn Green to waive his no-trade clause to facilitate a trade to the New York Mets, although Green said after Saturday’s game no such request has been made."

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=71596

 

[Stallion]

Well, this is an exciting turn of events. Go trade!

 

[kps0001]

48 hours after the nonwaiver trade deadline. Its not a story that somebody clears waivers, its only a story when somebody claims them (ie Andruw Jones)

Ah..just when I thought I had a grasp on this whole non-waiver vs waiver trade deadline thing I get thrown a curveball. Wouldn't we have had to release him in order to clear waivers? Would someone mind explaining this to my ignorant self? Thanks and my apologies.

kevin

 

[devilfan02]

No worries. It's rather confusing because not much talk surrounds the waiver trades. In order for a trade to be completed now, a player must pass through waivers until a team claims him or he can pass waivers completely. The waiver order is determined by the current overall winning percentage of all MLB teams, not seperated by NL or AL. If a team claims a player, they have 48 hours to complete a deal or else the player remains on their current team. Therefore, there is no loss for the team whos player was claimed but thats the only "freebe" they get. The catch is that if a team puts a player who has already been claimed off waivers once, they have to work out a deal with whichever team put the claim in, therefore losing all leverage.

You have to also realize that almost all MLB players are put on waivers simply because their respective teams want to see what kind of value they have.

Andruw Jones was claimed off waivers a couple weeks ago and the Braves did not end up trading him. If he were to be put on waivers now, the Braves would have to work out a deal and trade him. Shawn Green on the other hand completely passed through waivers so any team can place a claim on him. This is why the Mets are not moving fast on him because they know there isn't much interest in him and he will most likely be available whenever they want to claim him.

 

[kps0001]

Thanks, man. Got it now.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Shawn Green didnt play at all tonight, for what thats worth.

 

[Espo]

If the Mets and Diamondbacks can come to an agreement on a Shawn Green trade, then Green would likely waive his no-trade clause to join the National League East leaders, according to a person familiar with the situation. Arizona and the Mets have been discussing a deal involving Green, 34, as the Mets are looking to upgrade their corner outfield spots. Because Green is owed $9.5 million next season, with a $2-million buyout for his 2008 option, money has dominated the talks; the Mets don't want to pay more than half of the $11.5 million owed to Green beginning next year.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"If the Mets and Diamondbacks can come to an agreement on a Shawn Green trade, then Green would likely waive his no-trade clause to join the National League East leaders, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Arizona and the Mets have been discussing a deal involving Green, 34, as the Mets are looking to upgrade their corner outfield spots. Because Green is owed $9.5 million next season, with a $2-million buyout for his 2008 option, money has dominated the talks; the Mets don't want to pay more than half of the $11.5 million owed to Green beginning next year."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/print...119aug15,0,5369496.story?coll=ny-sports-print

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"Despite media reports suggesting he is willing to waive his no-trade clause if a deal can be worked out with the Mets, right fielder Shawn Green said no one has approached him about anything specific and, therefore, hasn't given anyone an indication as to what he may do.

"I've been told there have been talks, but that's all I've been told," he said. 'Whether or not they'll come to me, I don't know. . . . It's all just speculative right now. There's always rumors and things floating around and as players, if we pay attention to a bunch of that stuff we'll go crazy.'"

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0815dbnb0815.html

 

[arthurracoon]

Gambo is saying talks are slowing right now

 

[devilfan02]

Gambo is saying talks are slowing right now

Just about to post the same thing. Said talks are almost dead. Take it for what it's worth

 

[The Commish]

It will all depend on how much the Mets ultimately don't want to pay Shawn Green and ultimately how much we are willing to pay to get rid of him. Green is an ok player, but his contract situation is similar to Gonzo's in the sense that it skew's the perception of how good/not good he is. Simply put, a corner infielder should be putting up good power/RBI numbers for the money, to which Green is not doing. The Mets are probably playing hardball because the DBacks will bend over backwards to get rid of him.

 

[devilfan02]

All indications point towards the Dbacks paying half of next years salary. Supposedly Green wo.uld wave his no trade as well so its up to NYM. IMO, the Mets don't have much interest in him and think he wouldn't be an upgrade over their current situation

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Second game in a row Green is on the bench.