1)LOL you really think its only one game of action. My god I hate the american education system. Its no wonder we have been slipping from super power status.
2) Wow you named 9 RB's there. Im very impressed. Id list all the RB's that busted but I dont want to use up all of skkorps bandwidth...get it? Doubt it.
3) Johnson and Pace finally lived up to their potential? Its official stick to basketball because you know nothing about football.
4) Ah how nice. Even if he does turn out to be a bust we are wrong and you are right
1) I think my initial post already stated that i dont agree with your assessment that preseason is a big predicator of future success or future ineptitude. So yes, my University of Arizona buisness degree and impending University of Miami Masters degree are going to put our credibility on the line here and say that 8 carries in a regular season is not a ample time to evaluate a player. Oh and i apologize for my role in the downfall of contemporary american civilization.....
2) Once again my point is completly being missed. Yes I could name a lot of busts as well. In fact i could name alot of busts who initially showed alot of potential and went on to amount to nothing or much less then expected (Quentin Griffin, Tim Couch, Jake Plummer, Kerry Collins) Once again the point remains: For an informed opinion, more evaluation is needed. No one has ever made or broken a career (not including injury) after 8 carries.
To step out of the RB realm, Let me tell you about a QB who fans and coachs gave up to fast on because he was a brash drunk who couldn't avoid throwing balls into coverage. Their "brilliant" assessment led them to trade this player due to his apparent inability to ever play within the confines of an NFL system and have success. This decision was based primarily on his erratic pre-season play. At this point naming him is redundent as we have all heard the story before, but i recall said player having a pretty good career after his trade to title town.
3) Pace and BJ have not completly fulfilled round one draft pick status, but it seems both players are on their way too doing so (once again being too impatient with player development) Giving up on both of them would be a mistake back after their first game, as well as now. Darwin Walker is another player (who dominated on monday night) was also given up too fast by the org. and has gone on to develop into a stud.
Im glad you brought up basketball because all this football talk was starting to make me nervous, as i obviously have no idea what im talking about.
You must have visited the Suns side of this board to know I am a big Joe Johnson fan.....You know Joe Johnson right? The player who every Suns fan wanted to behead because he wasn't developing as fast as many would have liked. Yeah he went on to collect 70 million and become the focal point of a team this off season, but it would have been much wiser if we would have just cut our losses after his first game with us and got a second round pick for him....
4) Are you even reading my posts? This isn't really an issue of being wrong or right. I could care less if you go to sleep tonight thinking "Boy Az's Finest sure has a handle on his Cardinal football". IMO DG (whom im a BIG supporter of) should push his ego aside and give Shipp the carries to start games so his pounding will wear on the other team and JJ can then come in as guys try to arm tackle him, he will break off big runs. Im a little worried as a Cardinal fan as i would love every player drafted to come in and light up the league (and we have been very spoiled with our drafting the last couple years) right away, and JJ has yet to do that, but that doesn't mean im going to write him off. Trust me, if JJ had tore up the pre-season and ran for 150 yards in the opener, I would still be here tempering everyones "HOF" predictions (or more precisely overreactions) as well, as one good game doesn't make you a diety either.
As for other related posts, Russ i digress. Alexander and Jackson both showed signs of being good players which doesn't really work for my analogy in this particular thread. My point was that they didn't start right away, and i bet alot of fans were also overly anxious initially that these first round picks were not starting. But we are discussing JJ's lack of showing potential, so you are correct. BTW you have some of the most informative posts on this thread (and overall) and your knowledge is respected in this corner...
Your right I forgot you are the king of credibility around here. How dare we have an opinion differing of yours. You are the almighty RB talent evaluator that knows exactly who is going to go on to stardom. You can list RBs all day that didnt look good initially as you say. We could give a list just as long of more highly touted RBs than Arrington who didnt look good and are complete busts.
Wow, i didnt realize my posts were being so misinterpreted. Im not pretending to know the future or what actually is going to happen in this kids career. Once again, thank you for pointing out that the NFL has had players drafted who didn't live up to expectations. I was unaware of this. You realize I'm a "basketball" fan so please excuse the naitivite
. I am no better at evaluating RB's than yourself..... (actually after re reading your posts i take that back. I am better at it than you, but there are much more informed opinions than mine on this message board so I digress.) Im watching the same games you are...i wish things had started out better. Lets give him another 8 carries and THEN we can cut him.......
Pariah, I find it odd that you have pointed me out and thought enough of it to actually post a couple times on the subject. Your point is well taken though and i dont want to offend this message board, as it has replaced espn.com and azcardinals.com as my favorite site and where i spend most of my web surfing time. I will keep this in mind with all future posts. Are you sure that its not because you are actually starting to worry that Brad Van Pelt is going to turn into a Pro Bowler?
...I mean he did have a hell of a preseason........
I will try and practice sober posting from this point on........
