Should the Cardinals Trade Down?

[juza76]

/hehasrosen

I can’t imagine Q Williams playing 3-4 DE, but maybe nose tackle if we don’t get Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins?

i think its better to find nose tackle late in the draft

the last nose tackle drafted with high pick i remember
danny shelton---bust
shwan rogers - bust
phil taylor bust
stephen paea bust

i think i miss someone else

 

[Krangodnzr]

/hehasrosen

I can’t imagine Q Williams playing 3-4 DE, but maybe nose tackle if we don’t get Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins?

Why cant you imagine it?

His build is much more suited to DE than to NT.

There is a 100% that the Cardinals would play him at DE over NT.

 

[juza76]

Why cant you imagine it?

His build is much more suited to DE than to NT.

There is a 100% that the Cardinals would play him at DE over NT.

definetely considering his quickness
his athleticism would be wasted playing nose tackle

 

[Kai]

I only I can only see him playing NT because I thought that Corey Peters, Darius Philon or even Rodney Gunter would play 3-4 DE

 

[Kai]

/juza76
Danny Shelton: Bad first step and a quitter
Shwan Rogers: Pretty sure he was in the league for 13 years and was a good player
Phil Taylor: Bad first step and was often gassed at the end of drives/games
Stephen Paea’s Hip bend/flexibility was bad

 

[HeHasRosen]

i think its better to find nose tackle late in the draft

the last nose tackle drafted with high pick i remember
danny shelton---bust
shwan rogers - bust
phil taylor bust
stephen paea bust

i think i miss someone else

So by your logic we shouldn't draft heisman winning QBs.

Marcus Mariota - sucks
Jamies Winston - sucks
Johnny Manziel - bust
RGIII - bust
Sam Bradford - sucked
Tim Tebow - bust
Troy Smith - bust

And there's more...

 

[Kai]

HeHasRosen
lol not all Bo Jackson & Barry Sanders were Heiman winners

 

[Kai]

Krangthebrain
I think that if Quinnen happened to find himself on our roster he would most definitely play 3-4 DE but his natural, most productive fit is at either 4-3 DT or 4-3 DE

 

[HeHasRosen]

HeHasRosen
lol not all Bo Jackson & Barry Sanders were Heiman winners

I didn't know they played QB??

 

[GuernseyCard]

I didn't know they played QB??

BO could do any damn thing he wanted.

He was BO!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Krangthebrain
I think that if Quinnen happened to find himself on our roster he would most definitely play 3-4 DE but his natural, most productive fit is at either 4-3 DT or 4-3 DE

Depends on the defense.

Not a 3-4 ends are used the same.

Aaron Donald and JJ Watt had two of the highest sack producing seasons ever as 3-4 ends.

 

[PACardsFan]

BO could do any damn thing he wanted.

He was BO!

HeHasRosen is a young dude. He probably has vague memories of Bo

 

[Chris_Sanders]

We absolutely should not trade down.

Pick #1 needs to be Murray, Bosa, or Williams

 

[Kai]

Why tho?
chris_sanders

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Palmer, Staughbach, Cam, and Plunkett all won the Heisman

The runner up list is amazing

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Why tho?
chris_sanders

The pro bowl percentage in the top 5 is really impressive .Beyond that it just gets progressively more likely that you end up with someone who isn't a difference maker

This team needs pro bowl young talent far more than it needs solid starters .

Time to rebuild the core

And I say this thinking the Raiders aren't trading up.

 

[Kai]

I know everybody hates on me for this but..
Murray: better quaterbacks available in future drafts
Bosa: not a scheme fit
Williams: not a scheme fit/ I don’t see a place on the roster for him, but tremendous respect for him nevertheless

 

[Shane]

We absolutely should not trade down.

Pick #1 needs to be Murray, Bosa, or Williams

It needs to be Bosa or Allan or trade the hell back and get assets...

 

[Kai]

If we traded back who would you draft?
/shane

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I am out on Allen. For all his "athletic freak", he and Bosa were basically the same at the combine .

And Bosa is far superior on technique.

Bosa really backed up the hype at the combine . Allen got bumped way down in my draft board .

 

[Chris_Sanders]

If we traded back who would you draft?
/shane

How far is the question

 

[Kai]

chris_sanders
Obviously the million dollar question for Bosa is can he play 3-4 OLB?
In my opinion, I think he could (maybe), but would never live up to the hype the media has surrounded him with. Bosa is a much better fit in a 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB whereas Josh Allen is the exact opposite
How far? Probably within the first round and a early second

 

[Shane]

I am out on Allen. For all his "athletic freak", he and Bosa were basically the same at the combine .

And Bosa is far superior on technique.

Bosa really backed up the hype at the combine . Allen got bumped way down in my draft board .

That’s all the more likely he’s a great pic... haha youbwere all in and then some nkemdiche..

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That’s all the more likely he’s a great pic... haha youbwere all in and then some nkemdiche..

Yep can't judge heart by tape

 

[Kai]

But is Bosa a good fit for our 3-4?


/shane