Should the Suns trade Steve Nash after this season?

[sunsfan88]

What if Toronto actually traded us Ed Davis & their 5th overall pick.

Oh my...

 

[slinslin]

What if Toronto actually traded us Ed Davis & their 5th overall pick.

Oh my...

MAYBE they would give us their #5 pick depending on what contracts we took in return but certainly not both.

I doubt Toronto has interest in trading Davis, Derozan or Bargnani.

 

[jibikao]

I don't see any reason that Howard would leave Orlando. I know it's easy to bring up Lebron in this conversation, but Orlando is NOT Cleveland and Dwight is NOT Lebron. I just don't see him leaving the Magic outright. They'll either retain him or they'll get some star or stars back in a sign-and-trade.

I've been reading that Howard wants to go to L.A because he wants to start a movie career or something? Maybe L.A Laker can't afford him but Clippers might?

 

[slinslin]

Who knows what the new CBA will look like. There might be franchise tags and what not...

All I know is that I am tired of hearing how superstar A will go to team B in a couple of years.

And I'd guess that the owners will want to make it easier to keep superstars in small markets with the new CBA.

 

[Mainstreet]

Who knows what the new CBA will look like. There might be franchise tags and what not...

All I know is that I am tired of hearing how superstar A will go to team B in a couple of years.

And I'd guess that the owners will want to make it easier to keep superstars in small markets with the new CBA.

This is an area where I can support the owners. It goes towards parity.

 

[JS22]

I would agree with this, but that wing player would have to be someone really special. All-star caliber player. Not necessarily an all-star already, but someone who can quickly develop into one. The Suns got Joe Johnson for two bench players. That's the kind of a trade that it will take, since all we really have to trade are bench players. In fact, it will take more than that, because JJ didn't contribute much his first two years with the Suns.

This is essentially what I meant. Obviously it's going to be tough for the Suns to acquire a star at the wing position. But if they could, I see no reason why they can't be fighting for home-court next year.

I still think if Richardson were still on the team with the addition of Gortat the Suns would be getting ready for the playoffs right now.

 

[JS22]

How is Frye/Gortat better than Amare/Frye or even Diaw/Thomas etc...

Neither Frye nor Gortat has any post moves or can create on their own.

It's not all about offense. Plus, Gortat is actually pretty decent in the post. Not great, but decent.

 

[Bufalay]

Any sentence that starts with Gambo and ASh is always fantasy.

You have strange fantasies.

 

[Lorenzo]

get nash some help at guard!!! maybe another PG. when he has had guys alongside him playing at a high level in the backcourt he has been nearly impossible to defend and no so beat down. jrich, finley, van excel, joe johnson, etc. dragic for a min too lol.

 

[Mainstreet]

get nash some help at guard!!! maybe another PG. when he has had guys alongside him playing at a high level in the backcourt he has been nearly impossible to defend and no so beat down. jrich, finley, van excel, joe johnson, etc. dragic for a min too lol.

You are lucky the Mavs are owned by Cuban. It's nice to have an owner willing to do whatever is necessary to make his team better.

 

[JCSunsfan]

http://arizonasports.com/category/s...e-teams-interested-in-trading-for-Steve-Nash/

I was 1 of those who wanted nash to retire here. But he has great value right now and we need to move on. A trade makes sense for all involved. I think most fans here will be surprised at what he nets for us.

 

[elindholm]

You are lucky the Mavs are owned by Cuban. It's nice to have an owner willing to do whatever is necessary to make his team better.

I guess. The Mavericks haven't been any more successful than the Suns over the past six years. They have a Finals appearance, but not as many WCFs as the Suns. Cuban's gratuitous spending looks flashy, but it hasn't actually improved his product.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I guess. The Mavericks haven't been any more successful than the Suns over the past six years. They have a Finals appearance, but not as many WCFs as the Suns. Cuban's gratuitous spending looks flashy, but it hasn't actually improved his product.

I think most of us, including you, would be thrilled with Cuban or a Cubanesque owner, especially considering our current situation.

 

[elindholm]

I think most of us, including you, would be thrilled with Cuban or a Cubanesque owner, especially considering our current situation.

Now isn't the time. The time was before the Kurt Thomas trade or the other sales of draft picks. Money can't solve the Suns' current problems.

And remember, Cuban has twice let good players get away because he didn't want to pay them. Nash is the easy example, but people tend to forget about Michael Finley. As part of the last CBA, the owners negotiated an "amnesty rule" in which each team could drop one big salary from their roster, still pay the full salary, but be exempt from luxury tax on that salary. Cuban chose to waive Finley, who promptly signed with the rival Spurs for the minimum and was an important role player in their 2007 championship run.

The benefits of having "an owner like Cuban" are overrated. I'd much rather have friends like Jerry West working for alleged competitors.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think most of us, including you, would be thrilled with Cuban or a Cubanesque owner, especially considering our current situation.

Wishing for new ownership is futile. Ownership just doesn't change that often and the likelihood of getting good ownership in a transfer is not that good. We had it great here under Colangelo. He is gone now.

If you want to wish for something, wish that Sarver starts to "get it" as far as ownership. That is a more reasonable possibility (even if it is not likely). I would rather have a saavy owner who passionately wants to win, than an owner with deep pockets.

 

[Covert Rain]

Now isn't the time. The time was before the Kurt Thomas trade or the other sales of draft picks. Money can't solve the Suns' current problems.

And remember, Cuban has twice let good players get away because he didn't want to pay them. Nash is the easy example, but people tend to forget about Michael Finley. As part of the last CBA, the owners negotiated an "amnesty rule" in which each team could drop one big salary from their roster, still pay the full salary, but be exempt from luxury tax on that salary. Cuban chose to waive Finley, who promptly signed with the rival Spurs for the minimum and was an important role player in their 2007 championship run.

The benefits of having "an owner like Cuban" are overrated. I'd much rather have friends like Jerry West working for alleged competitors.

I don't disagree with you on some of Cuban's moves but he seems to go in cycles. He won't pay one player but than activity tries to bring guys in. At the trading deadline he let the world know he was willing to go over the Luxury tax if it meant getting the player he wanted.

I would hands down take Cuban over Sarver.

 

[Cheesewater]

Cuban not keeping Nash was only half of his mistake. He should have kept Nash, and hired Mike D'Antoni.

:championship:

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cuban not keeping Nash was only half of his mistake. He should have kept Nash, and hired Mike D'Antoni.

:championship:

do you really believe this?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I would rather have a saavy owner who passionately wants to win, than an owner with deep pockets.

Well, playing that game, I would rather have an owner who is passionate about winning, and willing to make the necessary moves based on basketball decisions, not his bottom line.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Cuban not keeping Nash was only half of his mistake. He should have kept Nash, and hired Mike D'Antoni.

:championship:

D'Antoni might be the one of the worst coaches in the NBA. That was true here in Phoenix too.

 

[Mainstreet]

If you want to wish for something, wish that Sarver starts to "get it" as far as ownership. That is a more reasonable possibility (even if it is not likely). I would rather have a saavy owner who passionately wants to win, than an owner with deep pockets.

I'd settle for Lon Babby getting it and convincing Sarver to make the right moves.

 

[Bufalay]

The benefits of having "an owner like Cuban" are overrated. I'd much rather have friends like Jerry West working for alleged competitors.

Or Kevin McHale.

When is Eddie Johnson going to become GM of Orlando and give Howard to the Suns?

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'd settle for Lon Babby getting it and convincing Sarver to make the right moves.

That would be enough for me.

 

[mojorizen7]

Cuban not keeping Nash was only half of his mistake. He should have kept Nash, and hired Mike D'Antoni.

:championship:

I'll have what you're having bro.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'd settle for Lon Babby getting it and convincing Sarver to make the right moves.

"Babby also restated the value of Nash and Grant Hill and dismissed the idea of "blowing it up."

"We've got a lot of needs," he said. "We've got to get better defensively.
"The state of the franchise is positive but in transition."


How the hell is the state of the franchise positive? 3 players over the age of 35 and no playoffs.



Whenever Babby opens his mouth, I start losin confidence in him.