Should They Fire Porter at midseason and hire a veteran?

[btimsah]

I can't help but feel like they got a dud in Porter. They're worse defensively, turn the ball over and are getting worse. I feel like they need a veteran coach. Doug Collins? I don't know.. Some old crusty veteran.

 

[TBaslim]

Hmmmmm....gotta really think about this one....

 

[TBaslim]

Done thinking - yes!

 

[Bufalay]

Isaiah!

 

[Hat]

Believe me, I'm first in line to see Porter leave, but it's probably too late in the season. If you shake up the coaches now it's just going to make thing worse. First you have chemistry, then new plays & sets to learn, etc.

 

[Andrew]

Really think about it? THIS isn't all on Porter and changing coaches would just make us take a step back....

 

[Caliballfan]

Porter has the right philosophy, the Suns don't have the right personnell to implement it

 

[btimsah]

Believe me, I'm first in line to see Porter leave, but it's probably too late in the season. If you shake up the coaches now it's just going to make thing worse. First you have chemistry, then new plays & sets to learn, etc.

lol. . . Yeah that chemistry is so good.

 

[TBaslim]

Porter's a nice guy who has a lot to learn as a coach. And the team has totally tuned him out. That's the biggest problem - they don't seem to be listening to him (whether it's respect or something else). That's trouble in River City for a coach.

The team is flawed in its current form - too many offensive talents that need the ball in their hands, and no good defenders outside of Grant Hill - but even with those issues they are playing below potential. The offensive talents they have are really very, very good when playing well.

It's clear these guys are not playing for each other a whole lot at this point, and kind of turning it on for spurts and then going through the motions a bunch. That points to coaching, always.

A midseason coaching change is hard, but the right coach might get them to at least play to their potential (which is a middle seed playoff team that might do a lot of damage if they got hot at just the right time and played out of their minds for a few weeks).

That requires Kerr to nut up and make the call to let his friend go, and make the right hire this time (for this team). Not betting that will happen.

 

[Ninjafish]

Duh?

 

[elindholm]

Believe me, I'm first in line to see Porter leave, but it's probably too late in the season. If you shake up the coaches now it's just going to make thing worse.

How could it be worse?

 

[btimsah]

How about they bench Nash, and start Grant Hill at the point,

PG - Hill
SG - Richardson
SF - Matt Barnes
PF - Stoudemire
C - Shaq

LOL.. I'm just saying, we might be able to stop SOMEONE then.

Seriously, Nash can't score like he used too but more importantly he gives up too many points to run a more contemporary offense.

 

[Mainstreet]

Porter has the right philosophy, the Suns don't have the right personnell to implement it

How about the Suns have the right personnel but the wrong coach to implement it.

 

[Proteus]

What about having Gentry take over? He's certainly very familiar with the team and I think they'd respect him.

 

[95pro]

What about having Gentry take over? He's certainly very familiar with the team and I think they'd respect him.

hmmm lets see who's still around...

there's only:
hill, nash, barbs, and amare.

everyone else is fairly new to gentry, even hill - sort of.

 

[Covert Rain]

I think there are zero chances you get a title run out of interim head coach or someone you bring in this late in the season. It's too late. Then again, I doubt we were going to get a title anyway.

So, the way I look at it is....what the hell. Fire his ass and bring in someone who has an IQ larger then Shaq's shoe size.

 

[Caliballfan]

How about the Suns have the right personnel but the wrong coach to implement it.

He wants to work inside out. He wants to have guys focus more on defense, he wants guys to slow down, suck up the shot clock and make the opposing defense work against the Suns for a full 24 seconds and take smart shots. Thats a winner's attitude and thinking right there. Can't blame him for guys wanting to shy away from contact and refusing to work on securing the boards or take pride in their defense.

If you mean the personnell they have now - go back to run and gun and set up for another awesome regular season and piss poor playoff run?

 

[Covert Rain]

He wants to work inside out. He wants to have guys focus more on defense, he wants guys to slow down, suck up the shot clock and make the opposing defense work against the Suns for a full 24 seconds and take smart shots. Thats a winner's attitude and thinking right there. Can't blame him for guys wanting to shy away from contact and refusing to work on securing the boards or take pride in their defense.

If you mean the personnell they have now - go back to run and gun and set up for another awesome regular season and piss poor playoff run?

Were we watching the same game? Cause Porter called some horrid plays at the end of the game. Then he went to hack a Bowen. Also, why is JRich just standing at the 3 point line? Why did Barbosa get spotty minutes?

Porter can't coach.

 

[Mainstreet]

He wants to work inside out. He wants to have guys focus more on defense, he wants guys to slow down, suck up the shot clock and make the opposing defense work against the Suns for a full 24 seconds and take smart shots. Thats a winner's attitude and thinking right there. Can't blame him for guys wanting to shy away from contact and refusing to work on securing the boards or take pride in their defense.

If you mean the personnell they have now - go back to run and gun and set up for another awesome regular season and piss poor playoff run?

Just wanting or thinking something does not mean you get it. This transfers over into just about every realm of life. Talking a good game and playing a good game are two completely different things.

Yes, I want the Suns to run because they have the personnel to run. The way the Suns are playing now, they may not even make the playoffs. If they do, they look to make an early exit with Porter coaching.

 

[cly2tw]

How about they bench Nash, and start Grant Hill at the point,

PG - Hill
SG - Richardson
SF - Matt Barnes
PF - Stoudemire
C - Shaq

LOL.. I'm just saying, we might be able to stop SOMEONE then.

Seriously, Nash can't score like he used too but more importantly he gives up too many points to run a more contemporary offense.

That's exactly the problem. Against a defensively disciplined team, Nash's total on-court value tends to be negative even in an offensively perfect game like tonight against Spurs.

Replacing Barnes with LB in your starting lineup. Let's game.

 

[Caliballfan]

Were we watching the same game? Cause Porter called some horrid plays at the end of the game. Then he went to hack a Bowen. Also, why is JRich just standing at the 3 point line? Why did Barbosa get spotty minutes?

Porter can't coach.

Are you kidding, didn't they come back from a 12 point deficit and and cut it down to 4 or 5 by going screen and roll with Amare and Nash? Finally Amare started playing smart because he knocked down 3 J's in a row, Bonner came out on him the next couple of times, Amare made him pay by going inside. Richardson is at the 3 point line because he can spread the floor. Play him to his strengths like the Spurs play Mason and Finley to their strengths. Let those guys camp out while they run the Parker/Duncan or Ginobilli/Duncan pick and roll because more times than not it will require the attention of an extra defender, they kick it out and they get an open shot. I've never liked Barbosa, they should've traded him to get an adequate backup combo guard. The man needs to shoot 50% from the floor to prove his playing time on the floor because he can do little else without the ball in his ends.

 

[Caliballfan]

Just wanting or thinking something does not mean you get it. This transfers over into just about every realm of life. Talking a good game and playing a good game are two completely different things.

Yes, I want the Suns to run because they have the personnel to run. The way the Suns are playing now, they may not even make the playoffs. If they do, they look to make an early exit with Porter coaching.

Well lets see here you got two of the top 10 frontcourt players in the league and you got a point guard who's good at setting teammates up and happens to be an excellent 3 point shooter. He wants the ball thrown inside, Shaq or Amare command a double, kick it right back out and you got an open 3. He has the right philosophy in mind, players like Hill, Barbosa aren't gonna get it done. Also Amare needs to open his eyes and have better court awarenes because he does command a slight double and if he'd kick it back out, im sure Jrich or Nash can get a wide open triple.

 

[Caliballfan]

Also, aren't these guys veterans? Aren't they supposed to do the make the necessary adjustments to do the little things to win ball games? He demands the right things out of the players, its unfortunate most of them can't focus and play his philosophy for 48 minutes.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We aren't firing a guy we just hired. We aren't paying 2 coaches.

Get real guys.

 

[Covert Rain]

Are you kidding, didn't they come back from a 12 point deficit and and cut it down to 4 or 5 by going screen and roll with Amare and Nash? Finally Amare started playing smart because he knocked down 3 J's in a row, Bonner came out on him the next couple of times, Amare made him pay by going inside. Richardson is at the 3 point line because he can spread the floor. Play him to his strengths like the Spurs play Mason and Finley to their strengths. Let those guys camp out while they run the Parker/Duncan or Ginobilli/Duncan pick and roll because more times than not it will require the attention of an extra defender, they kick it out and they get an open shot. I've never liked Barbosa, they should've traded him to get an adequate backup combo guard. The man needs to shoot 50% from the floor to prove his playing time on the floor because he can do little else without the ball in his ends.

Key...."came back". The stupid offensive play calling that came before them going to the pick N roll resulted in the deficit in the first place. Then at the end.."hack a Bowen"?? Really?? If that is your idea of good coaching...you have low standards my friend.

Also, ofcourse JRich on the 3 point line spreads the defense....but only if the Spurs are not cheating down (which they were all night). You can't turn a multi-dimensional player in JRich and turn him into a one dimensional player. That is pure stupidity.

PS. You might not like Barbosa but leading up to this game he has been playing great at the point.